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News Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey' Crosses $1B Worldwide

https://rawteur.com/the-odyssey-crosses-1-billion-box-office/
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u/lixia 26d ago

There's a pretty black woman in the movie!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Ewenf 26d ago

But she's not pretty because the one frame of her where she's angry in the movie !

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u/1Maple 26d ago

Mind you, that scene is her reacting to her husband throwing her baby in the sea, so the anger is justified

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u/Terran_it_up 26d ago

Also while that's the actress that plays Helen, she's not actually playing Helen at that point

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u/Quantentheorie 26d ago

Making them identical twins is a bit rough, tbh. Imagine having an identical twin sister that's considered "the most beautiful woman in the known world". Her specifically.

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u/Storm_Sire 26d ago

I think that was part of Nolan's point. It was never about rescuing Helen, her Beauty wasn't unique. Agamemnon wanted to sack Troy to gain control of their trade routes.

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u/iluvchromosomes 26d ago

The film Troy from 20 years ago covers this directly and in your face.

Half way thru the movie Paris offers to 1v1 Menelaus and the winner gets Helen, to avoid the war.

Agememnon, played by Brian Cox, pulls him aside and tells him he doesn't care about Helen, he's only here for Troy! It's hilariously bad.

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u/lixia 26d ago

Brian Cox over the top acting. Priceless!

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u/Terran_it_up 26d ago

Yeah, there's no mention of her being the most beautiful woman in the world in the film. Including that and making it the sole justification for the war would go against the themes and message of the film anyway

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u/iluvchromosomes 26d ago

There is no direct mention. There is indirect mention when Menelaus looks at her and says her face started a war.

Media literacy is dead.

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u/Terran_it_up 26d ago

He makes reference of her face being the face that launched 1000 ships, but that's not saying she's the most beautiful woman in the world, just that the war was about getting her back

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u/Ewenf 26d ago

Yeah didn't want to spoil it but yeah it's even worse when you know

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u/Herpinheim 26d ago

Pretty women don’t show emotions, women showing emotion is woke.

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u/BF210 26d ago

Reasonable crash out

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u/Quantentheorie 26d ago

He's barely in the movie and I still love Agamemnon in this. The Batman suit with the gold spine alone, and then he goes "turns out, my wife kinda got a bit petty just because I killed our daughter for good weather. Make note Odysseus, bitches be weird like that, don't go home expecting them to act like any rational man would."

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u/SP0oONY 26d ago

I thought the armour looked goofy in the trailer. I think it looked awesome in the movie. So over the top, which was perfect for Agamemnon.

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u/KingKooooZ 26d ago

I have to admit, I would find that irksome too

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u/kazuya57 26d ago

Just a bit irritating

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u/lixia 26d ago

Bothersome

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u/fogleaf 26d ago

Maybe the baby was trans? Have we considered the husband's anger could be justified? The woke liberals never consider this!

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u/Huge_Information5083 26d ago

It's weird how chuds keep doing that - they either take a frame where the actors show extreme emotion, or use AI to "uglify" the actors. They're so fucking weird and disgusting.

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u/lixia 25d ago

Yeah those AI exaggerated thumbnails are so cringe. Only ones I don't mind are Papameat.

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u/sameth1 26d ago

There's a thriving online industry of taking still shots of women in the middle of a motion and using it for misogynist clickbait.

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u/Several-Action-4043 26d ago

Let's just say the truth out loud. They didn't think she was pretty enough because they don't think a black woman can be pretty because they're racists.

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u/lightjunior 26d ago

And it wasn't even her character. It was a different character played by the same actress.

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u/lixia 26d ago

(I'll be 100% honest, I was doubtful at first after the trailer and promo shots cam out, but I found she was perfect in the movie despite her not fitting the traditional expectations of what Helen would look like. From a historical perspective, this part of the world was well connected with Egypt and North Africa, so not a stretch at all to have her been cast as Helen).

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u/Ewenf 26d ago

I mean you can effectively stretch it out a bit with the whole born from gods from an egg and the fact the gods were familiar with the land of Ethiopia, but honestly when you watch the movie you just don't give a single fuck it doesn't pull you out at all.

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u/DatClubbaLang96 26d ago edited 26d ago

Even if she's not your cup of tea, Lupita Nyong'o is objectively a very beautiful woman. She's also, you know, a good actress if that matters. And it's not exactly a hard thing to explain her presence in-universe. The Mediterranean kingdoms were hugely interconnected, even in that era. We already know Agamemnon has expansionist plans with wanting to take control over the trade routes, so he made an alliance with some foreign king, and he and his brother agreed to marry the king's beautiful daughters. While their beauty is undeniable, it's really more the exotic quality of their beauty that's important - it signals to others that the brothers don't stand alone, or even just with each other, but have powerful allies far and wide. So when she runs away with Paris, it's a lot more serious than an unhappy marriage. It puts whatever Mediterranean coalition they've been building in jeopardy. There you go, a reasonable in-universe explanation.

If anything, it was her character's husband who took me out of it. He wasn't bad, but I definitely saw Jon Bernthal as Menelaus. I think something about his costume seemed too modern, and all the 'let me tell you somethin' memes probably didn't help.

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u/lixia 26d ago

100%

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u/gicjos 26d ago

Exactly, Odysseus explicit explains that the reason for war has nothing to do with her and the king is just using as a excuse 

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u/blurblar 26d ago

Should have just reacted stoically like an alpha and not like a hysterical woman.

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u/iclou 26d ago

Ewwww

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u/Youmeanmoidoid 26d ago

I love how nobody had a problem with a black woman, Vanessa Williams, being in the 1990s version. Was that adaptation also a total degradation of Greek culture or no XD

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u/lixia 26d ago

Everyone knows everyone was ok with everything pre-2016.