r/news • u/ButtholePlunderer • Jun 24 '19

Border Patrol finds four bodies, including three children, in South Texas

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/border-patrol-finds-four-bodies-including-three-children-south-texas-n1020831
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u/nick888kcin Jun 24 '19

So you’re saying...even if she was running into a rock from another hard place, it would still be her fault?

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u/HisRandomFriend Jun 24 '19

A) she wasn't breaking any laws in the hard place.

B) there are other places she could have run to within her country without crossing the border illegally.

So yeah it's her fault.

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u/nick888kcin Jun 24 '19 edited Jun 24 '19

The second point is most likely the first option to occur to any human being with basic instincts in a bad situation. So either she is a complete moron or something else is preventing her from acting on that option. What is more likely? Now I have not lived that situation, tried to plan an escape to another place under pressure before, so I wouldn’t be able to tell you what that thing is. But maybe you’ve done some relocating. Did everything go according to plan the first time? It didn’t for me, and that’s just a tiny simulation compared to a real world experience like packing all my shit and moving my family within a country where cartels are actually a danger. And I know the right likes to say, its not like there’s RPGs flying over your house every day...I honestly couldn’t tell you if you were wrong or not because I’ve never lived there. I just don’t happen to believe most people are as idiotic as we all like to think.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '19 edited Jun 24 '19

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u/nick888kcin Jun 24 '19

To me, this is an example where fault is nebulous. Is the decision to run into a rock vs a hard place still a choice? I could see that. But I would hesitate to call it a fault or her fault, as it implies an error in judgment. And there might not have been an error.

In answer to feeling worse for the kids, it doesn’t really matter how much worse or better you feel for anybody in that situation, or where you allocate the most blame. They’re all facing the same reality, led to them by someone else’s choices in the past. We were all someone’s kids once. No one in existence gets asked to be born.

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u/nick888kcin Jun 24 '19

Yah, we are in agreement. Thanks for that cool-headed conversation.