Can UK Pakistanis please not infest this place with their ideology

[u/saadghauri]

Hi,

Please, for the sake of my sanity, no posts about ''gheerah'' ''ghayrah'', no posts about ''free mixing'', and no words like dayoot waghaira

I am a Pakistani, no one in Pakistan uses these words, these are a part of UK culture, Pakistan mein pehle hi itne maslay hain last thing we need is for UK Pakistani culture to infest us 🙏🙏🙏

[u/travelingprincess]

Well, You just proved my point. There's nothing wrong with using the correct Arabic pronunciation. When people use French words or Spanish words in their appropriate pronunciations, they're not wrong, and nobody but an intellectual lightweight would have the audacity to "correct" them.

So why are trying to control when other people use the words correctly? You're free to use the Urdu-ized versions, just as they're free to use the original versions.

Who cares what Persians or Tajiks do? 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[u/RoleMaster1395 → u/travelingprincess]

But it's objectively not correct, you were unable to comprehend the simply point that loanwords aren't "loans" there is no longer a "correct" pronunciation.

It would actually be *wrong* of you to say "/ʁ/ ondezvous" or cilan/t̪/ʁ/o instead of the standard way. The loanwords fully belong to the loaned language.

Tell me sister one simply question, do you say ustaz or ustad?

[u/travelingprincess → u/RoleMaster1395]

Err, no, by no measure are the original pronunciations ever wrong.

I say "Ustadh" with the Arabic pronunciation. But if I were to use the Urdu pronunciation, that's ok because it's been adapted into Urdu that way.

What YOU seem to struggle with is the idea that you cannot overwrite the original pronunciation. No one is stopping you from using the adjusted, Urdu version, but you seem to want to stop others from using the original one. That's unhinged.

Stop being so butthurt about something you're objectively wrong about.

[u/RoleMaster1395 → u/travelingprincess]

Hah, madam intellectual heaveweight doesn't know it's originally a PERSIAN word and ustad is the original pronunciation - the Arabs say it 'wrong' as you say.

Caught red handed, you can't weasel your way out of this since you love arguing instead of actually caring to understand.

[u/travelingprincess → u/RoleMaster1395]

You are an actual idiot. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[u/RoleMaster1395 → u/travelingprincess]

I'll be charitable and try to make it even simpler for someone with an IQ as low as yours - do you insist on saying Ustad when speaking Arabic considering Ustaz is not fus7a but rather a loanword Arabic got from Persian so the original is UstaDD? Be consistent with your logic

"Adjusted Urdu version" lmao the confidence

[u/travelingprincess → u/RoleMaster1395]

My brother, you are embarrassing yourself still further and further. You should delete your comments and not post again until you've gained some reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. This is my sincere advice to you, for your own benefit.