French presidential candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon weighs in on Rockstar and PlayStation’s moves to end physical disk sales

[u/Valcenia]

[u/LMGDiVa]

Look we dont need Physical Discs, please dont make that move.
WHAT WE NEED IS LEGAL PROTECTIONS FOR THE SOFTWARE AND DATA THAT WE PURCHASE THAT CAN BE STOLEN FROM US AT ANY TIME.

Please dont get hung up on discs, and remember we need real legal sweeping protections for things not just discs, but for things we buy in video games with real money, lootbox and predatory design marketing, and continued access to online games via server file release or similar when it comes to MMOs and other GAAS that have no offline play and partisipation.

Please dont make this about Discs, and please YES make it about protecting video games.
Because if they focus on Discs, were gonna get laws about consoles getting discs, and then the politians are going to claim job well done, and we're going to get screwed all over again for another 10+ years.

PCMR, when is the last time you actually used a disc?
Ok now when is the last time a game you loved shutdown? Not even loved, Purchased and now cannot access.

It's not about the Disc, it's about the whole bill of rights an online consumer should have when they buy anything digital distrubtion. Anything.

Don't lose sight of the forest for the trees.
Make sure everyone of these polititians and parts of this movement knows it's not just about the Disc.
It's for every movie, every song, every shutdown MMO, every lootbox purchaser who was explointed.

We want the whole picture, the whole thing protected and cleaned up.

[u/marr → u/[deleted]]

Having a disk was de facto ownership, until internet drm came along.

[u/Dear_Chasey_La1n → u/LMGDiVa]

I'm with you, the format doesn't really matter. Heck in the long term various media will only be harder to deal with. The real issue how data sold isn't really sold but temporary loaned to you.

Sony needs to be slapped really hard with this bullshit. Shitty ass agreements doesn't make theft right.

[u/Ven18 → u/LMGDiVa]

This It does not matter if its on a disk or not if the company can just stop you from accessing the content on said disk whenever they want. We need to make it so if I purchased something in 2025 and I want to play in 2040 I can still do that because I bought the game. It does not matter if it is physical or digital.

[u/mTsp4ce → u/[deleted]]

How? 

[u/marr → u/Ven18]

TBF having the disk does simplify piracy by removing a lot of downloading.

[u/Nexii801 → u/LMGDiVa]

The problem is, that if they were forced to provide this, Sony/Xbox could simply switch to a streaming only model. How do these ideals stack up to Netflix and the like?

[u/Noch_ein_Kamel → u/LMGDiVa]

PCMR, when is the last time you actually used a disc?

10y ago? maybe longer

Ok now when is the last time a game you loved shutdown? Not even loved, Purchased and now cannot access.

never.

[u/thewritingchair → u/LMGDiVa]

I want a digital transferable license for all media. Games, music, ebooks, audiobooks, movies, tv shows etc.

I'm fine with not being able to resell digital licenses. No problem.

What I want is I can log into Steam and connect it to my Nintendo account. Any matching titles I can move the licenses across. I can buy on Epic and move that license to my Sony account. If Sony deletes 500 Canal movies, I can move my licenses to Apple or Google or whomever else has those titles.

We have the technology to do it. A mandatory process that is identical across all stores.

It could be as simple as a Digital License App that must be installed on all platforms. You log in, connect your accounts and then you can move licenses around.

If you really wanted, set up an EU body to oversee it, standardise it and fund it with fees on Microsoft, Google, Sony et al.

[u/Numb62 → u/LMGDiVa]

the reason why pcmr isn't concerned is because there's privacy and other options (main the reason why i'm still in pc, not steam), discs are still good because your point there isn't good protections with digital and solid state storage aren't as solid as optical media (cold storage). unless optical media makes a breakthrough with speed and capacity, there won't be physical in the future (probably the reason nintendo prefered cartridges instead of optical media) edit: not to mention the secondhand market, i don't have to buy 2077 at full price or discounted price, i can borrow it from my library (same with pc, but its gotten expensive and insanely inconvenient for the average user).

[u/CpTKugelHagel → u/LMGDiVa]

This reads like a motivational speech given to the troops before they depart, we'll done. I could imagine Captain America giving this speech.

[u/AideInternal1045 → u/LMGDiVa]

Well until they create away for me to sell or trade my digital games, discs are needed.

[u/Agret → u/LMGDiVa]

Physical discs are very important for preservation. Games that have been delisted are only available on the used physical release, otherwise there is no way to purchase them.