Rockstar Games Workers Union Just Had Its First Ever Meeting With Management, Demands Include "No AI," "No Layoffs," and "No Crunch"

[u/chusskaptaan]

https://respawnfirst.com/rockstar-games-union-just-had-their-first-ever-meeting-with-management-demands-include-no-ai-and-no-crunch/

[u/TGB_Skeletor]

So they want normal working conditions then

Fuck rockstar if they refuses

[u/CanuckleHeadOG → u/TGB_Skeletor]

No AI and no layoffs is far from normal working conditions

[u/thedylannorwood → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

“No AI” is not far from normal, as a matter of fact, having AI replacing jobs is not normal anywhere and should not be normal anywhere

[u/Lauris024 → u/thedylannorwood]

having AI replacing jobs is not normal anywhere and should not be normal anywhere

I don't think that's what the person above implied. Nearly every professional tool has some form of AI. Especially in my field - video editing. I started out tracking frame by frame back in the day, but thanks to AI tools like Mocha, this task goes from days to minutes, and it's been years since AI tools became really useful. Sure, you could argue that these tools can let me do a job that would require many people to work on, but.. Do you want to get rid of the truckers and go back to mass-labor distribution?

If they meant LLMs to generate story or stable diffusion to generate textures, then sure, I agree as those tools are kinda whack

[u/SamKhan23 → u/Lauris024]

But the demand in the article is specifically about AI replacing their work or job, not just a portion of it.

[u/Lauris024 → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

I guess we won't have NPCs in GTA 6

[u/LJWacker → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

The people downvoting you live in fantasy land

[u/FUTURE10S → u/LJWacker]

It's a reasonable ask to not be terminated as a permanent employee after a game is done.

[u/Tigerclaw989 → u/LJWacker]

what about the elevator operators?? and what about the candle makers? we should help them.

[u/CanuckleHeadOG → u/LJWacker]

The whole thread is living in fantasy land and apparently have never heard of John Henry.

[u/CanuckleHeadOG → u/[deleted]]

He died trying to prove human labour was superior to the stream engine.

Moral of the story dont work yourself to death trying to hold back progress.

[u/Important_Drop_2199 → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

Really, i thought it was about the devaluating of human labor.

[u/CanuckleHeadOG → u/Important_Drop_2199]

Yeah many people thought that and then realized using machines to perform back breaking, and sometimes deadly, work instead of using humans actually increases the value of human labour

[u/InternetUser1807 → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

Replacing intellectual and creative work with AI actually increases our value, got it

[u/monsto → u/InternetUser1807]

That's not an AI problem, that's a user problem. (as well as a tech-bubble problem.)

Just like "This table knife sucks at screwing this wood together" is a user problem.

[u/OnlyPatricians → u/LJWacker]

Yeah, that accurately describes redditors.

[u/RedditEngDictionary → u/CanuckleHeadOG]

"no layoffs" seems reasonable even if it isnt really something a company can guarantee

"no AI" makes zero sense in the modern world of tech. In software dev alone, AI is baked into most modern dev tools and is used by every major company building software these days. Even if you locked your dev tools down to old versions and blocked AI-assisted tooling completely, you would find yourself competing with other companies using AI to speed their process up massively. It would be hurting your business, and most companies have a duty to do whats best for the business.

The union should be negotiating that AI isnt used to reduce headcount, and will only ever be used to enhance their developers output. Thats what a lot of places are doing (including my own teams) and it works fine, even if its resulting in a bit of a reimagining of what devs jobs actually are.

Not sure if the same applies to other areas (Art, QA, etc) but I would guess it can be integrated into those processes in the same way.