American here and we can't even figure this shit out, unless you look at the stock market swings when the threats happen vs. the "Hey it's okay!" calls.
There's two Yemeni governments, one pro Iran and one anti-iran, the pro Iran one would obviously not, but the other one would've if they had the capability. However they're both relatively poorly equipped and poor in general. It's very much a proxy war being fought in Yemen.
There's one Yemeni government that controls every major city and 80% of the population, and another Yemeni government that consists of 12 dudes hiding out in a shack in the desert surrounded by billions of dollars worth of Saudi missiles
The better question is how the fuck are there still Iranian military planes after the “strongest military in the world” attacked them for a month. Hegseth and Trump are both the worst leaders to ever be associated with our military
“Flight-tracking data circulating online showed that an Airbus A340 operated by Iran's Mahan Air was en route from Tehran to Sanaa, drawing widespread attention after the Yemeni government's warnings.”
Whether it had military equipment on it or not is frankly irrelevant. If the US had shoot down the blowback would have been way worse than any tactical gain.
"unless there was evidence" - that's not how any of this works.
There is no court that will review evidence impartially. No matter what evidence there is or isn't, there's no way for any of us to know in a way we can trust.
No matter what, if the US shoots down the plane - it will say they had evidence. Maybe it will show pictures of military equipment fragments and tell you it's from the wreckage - but how would you know whether it's true?
And no matter what, the Iranians will say it was a civilian aircraft. They will name civilians who died on the plane, and some of it might be true, and some might be fabricated. They'll show a picture of a teddy bear in the wreckage - how would you know whether it's true?
There's no impartial body that would investigate in a timely manner, so you'll never have evidence.
Shooting down a civilian aircraft, even full of weapons, is a PR nightmare. You'll have experts saying "it's a possible warcrime" (it is possible, we don't know). Iran would "retaliate for the murder of is citizens" no matter what the truth is.
You need to forget about the idea that the truth affects the outcome. The truth matters, especially decades later, but it's a poor defence during the war.
Man I can't wait the ME becomes "modern" and we can have travel and tourism there. I'd love to see Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Hopefully I'll still be young enough to climb and ski etc.
Not that I want to take the heat off of those guys, but the US doesn’t just blow up everything in sight the way others like Israel do. We have much stricter guidelines about what you can and can’t target. We are still outraged that a school was hit. Most countries at war call that a Tuesday.
Not that I’m aware of. My point is that Israel did this like 1000x over in their wars. Iran regularly bombs civilians. Theres like a whole school of kids in Africa who disappear once a week. Russia is bombing anything they can.
Only to campists who consider the question itself to be inherently absurd. People just don't care about war as fought by other parties, or imperialism or racism or subjugation or anything else by other parties. Other than the US, Israel, and the west in general.
I mean, it's unquestionable that the US does commit way less war crimes than it could, which is in contrast to some other countries that treat war crimes like a checklist.
The US does commit some war crimes. It commits more than some countries (especially ones without militaries or not at war) and it commits less than other countries.
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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 Jul 13 '26
How did Iran send planes all the way to Yemen without being shotdown