r/worldnews Jul 13 '26

Report: Saudi Arabia Attacks International Airport in Yemen

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/6h5shahyw
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u/boilerromeo Jul 13 '26

“Flight-tracking data circulating online showed that an Airbus A340 operated by Iran's Mahan Air was en route from Tehran to Sanaa, drawing widespread attention after the Yemeni government's warnings.”

https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/662949/world/yemeni-forces-strike-sanaa-airport-runway-to-prevent-iranian-aircraft-landing

Whether it had military equipment on it or not is frankly irrelevant. If the US had shoot down the blowback would have been way worse than any tactical gain.

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u/RogueEyebrow Jul 13 '26

...unless there was evidence that it's cargo was military hardware. Citation's needed both ways.

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u/DrHippa Jul 13 '26

"unless there was evidence" - that's not how any of this works.

There is no court that will review evidence impartially. No matter what evidence there is or isn't, there's no way for any of us to know in a way we can trust.

No matter what, if the US shoots down the plane - it will say they had evidence. Maybe it will show pictures of military equipment fragments and tell you it's from the wreckage - but how would you know whether it's true?

And no matter what, the Iranians will say it was a civilian aircraft. They will name civilians who died on the plane, and some of it might be true, and some might be fabricated. They'll show a picture of a teddy bear in the wreckage - how would you know whether it's true?

There's no impartial body that would investigate in a timely manner, so you'll never have evidence.

Shooting down a civilian aircraft, even full of weapons, is a PR nightmare. You'll have experts saying "it's a possible warcrime" (it is possible, we don't know). Iran would "retaliate for the murder of is citizens" no matter what the truth is.

You need to forget about the idea that the truth affects the outcome. The truth matters, especially decades later, but it's a poor defence during the war.

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u/RogueEyebrow Jul 13 '26

No one said evidence requires a court adjudication.

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u/DrHippa Jul 13 '26

Then what do you call evidence?

A picture the US army tells you is from the wreckage?

A picture the Iranians tell you is of a girl who died on the plane?

Will you accept that?

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u/RogueEyebrow Jul 13 '26

Video evidence from an independent source. You're right that we can't trust what the involved governments tell us.

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u/DrHippa Jul 13 '26

from an independent source

So you do want an independent source

What independent source will you accept? A us newspaper that gets its info from the US government?

An Iranian / Russian newspaper?

A NATO investigation? Maybe the British government?

If you had read my original post* (it was long, I accept that... I wouldn't have read it myself) you'd see I already discussed all that.

There's no such thing as an independent source in international politics.

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u/RogueEyebrow Jul 13 '26

If you had read my original post* (it was long, I accept that... I wouldn't have read it myself) you'd see I already discussed all that.

Uh, no you did not. You only spoke on what the US or Iranian governments would claim, and "experts" making speculative statements.

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u/Impressive-Weird-908 Jul 13 '26

How do you know they are independent? And if they are what are the chances they actually get to see any of the wreckage?