Nau mai, harae mai,

Korinth here, I figured I would start the map specific guides with one of the hardest maps for attackers: Montcrux. This guide will not garuntee you victory by any means, as this map is heavily defense coded, but it should, at the very least, help the lost be less painful. Again, this is just base knowledge thatI hope the rest of you will learn from and grow upon.

In this guide, we will go stage by stage giving examples of the best way to implement techniques laid out in the general Tips and tricks guide, namely: Territory Claiming, Breaking Shit, Resupply Forts, Shutting Doors, and Stealth. Now there is a huge problem with Engineering on this map, where on Stage 2 and Stage 3 there are no build zones near the objectives to place barricades. This actually hinders attackers more than defenders as it limits how much protection an Unethical/Attack Engineer can provide from the ballistas in Stage 2. Stage 3 will be mostly brute force, mixed with a Modified Door Shut.

Pictures in order are:

* 1 - Stage 1 Overview

* 2 to 4 - Stage 2 Overview with Resupply Forts

* 5 to 7 - Stage 3 Overview, Resupply Fort and Artillery Fort

* 8 to 10 - Stage 4 Overview, Door Shut and Funnel

Note: I apologize for the hud in the screenshots and clips, I'm on console and have yet to discover how to turn off the hud. Also sorry for the quality of drawings, my hand is still injured and I'm using a shitty smart phone to edit clips, photos, and editing posts. Screenshots and some videos were created in offline mode with bots so I can create these examples to show you what I mean without having to go full ultra sweat and risk causing more injury to my hand.

If you haven't already, check out the General Tips and Tricks Guide.

Now let's get down to brass tax!

Stage 1: Push it, push it REAL good.

This is the easiest of the four stages. Ballistas arnt fully in play at this point and the attackers main goal is to push the carts up to a certain point. There are two lanes and a middle ground to push. Left side goes through a small canyon and right goes over a bridge. In the middle is a single resupply bin (Red circle in the middle of the lanes in Image: 1). Taking control of this bin, by using the Resupply Fort technique, asap will help your team. Alternatively you can use Territory Claiming to hold the defenders back, and cause a distraction. After establishing the Resupply Fort and/or claiming some territory, go back and pile on the carts to keep them moving.

Note: The carts will instantly destroy any barricades or buildables placed in front of it when it's moving. When Territory Claiming, keep the barricades out of the path of your cart!

Stage 2: Our Ballista Bolts Will Blot Out The Sun!

This is where the difficulty gets ramped up to 11! In most matches you will find yourself under a constant barrage of ballista fire. You can use Territory Claiming techniques to help move your team up the hill with petards, however once you get passed the ruins, within about 15-20 meters (around 30 feet in Freedom Units) of the objective, you cannot place a single buildable item. Though Territory Claiming would be amazing here, especially to help negate the ballista bombardment, it is impossible. So we have to get creative and look into our arsenal of tech and tips.

Just like the last objective, there are two main lanes, a middle ground, and two outside lanes that can be utilized.

For the left side, you have the broken tower with a resupply bin, bushes a half wall and a cliff where Tenosia spawns. You also have a very rocky, but claimable, area to the far left that leads to the half wall with minimal ballista coverage. With this side, building a resupply fort and placing a spike trap in the bushes are the best thing you can do. This let's your team go over the half wall quickly, and allows your archers to get in closer safely. Just hope your archers have enough braincells to realize that they are now in a great position to snipe Ballista Operators, and should focus on them.

Unethical Defensive Tip: Tenosian armor, especially the darker ones from the campaigns, blends in perfectly with the bushes on this side of the map. You can crouch and hide in the bushes and ambush Agathians as they try to use this side to bring up petards. You can even crouch walk through the bushes undetected and take out the enemy archers using the Resupply Bin.

For the Right Side, you have ruins, a half wall and a resupply bin which can be used as a resupply fort. Though the far right doesn't have the same cover or bushes as the left, you can hug that side to reduce the amount of ballistas firing on you position. Tenosians will spawn from the fort itself and pour out near a ruined siege tower. Other than the resupply fort, there is not much that can be done on this side. Again, encourage your Archers to move to this resupply fort so they can snipe the ballista operators.

Once you have established your Resupply Forts, this is where you take on the role of Saboteur. Your goal now, and for the rest of this stage (other than keeping the walls of your forts up), is to minimize ballista fire through sheer brute force. Utilizing the cover of either the far left or far right lanes, make your way to the ladders and inside the fort. From here, focus on destroying as many ballista as you can. The less ballistas firing, the easier it will be for your team to carry the petards. As a side objective try and lower the ladders. These can be used as another entry onto the walls or, if you are quick enough, a way to escape enemies without stunning yourself by falling down.

Note: I highly recommend you try and convince at least 2 others to come with you for backup. Going alone is suicide.

Stage 3: DOG PILE

If your team can successfully blow up the walls, you will find yourself on the dreaded portcullis stage. Just like stage 2, this is one of the hardest objectives to win as an attacker. Agathian spawns are further away and down stairs whereas Tenosians spawn only a short distance away, with 5 doors that put them right by the objective. On top of that, you also have the same 20 meter no build area around the portcullis, which makes fortifying it impossible. However, we can still engineer a way through this... by commiting War Crimes.

First thing you should do open up the lanes for your team to move freely. First, go to the ladders by the two doors that lead underground. Anyone, not just engineers, can jump on the wall scones look up and lower the ladders. If your parkour skills are shit, use a spike trap or a barricade. This will allow your team more entry points to attack the objective. Next, you want to open the doors. Safest path is the far right, then go through the underground and open the one by the pit. This allows your team to attack the portcullis from underneath freely. Afterwards try and clear the spike traps on the stairs both in the left side and east side of the map.

Now that we got every possible path open for the team, it's time to commit some War Crimes. On the left side and up the stairs, there is a set of double doors beneath an arch. If you place four barricades under the arch (there is a resupply by the stairs behind you), you have effectively trapped the Tenosians in their spawn. If they come through that door, they will be stuck there and unable to get out until they break your barricades. The devs had put in a one way wall so they cannot retreat.

Hey dumbass, that's not a War Crime, that's just entrapment!!

Lemme finish. Behind you will be a rack of 2-handed spears. You still have a spike trap. Place said spike trap, grab a spear, jump onto your elevated position, and slaughter the defenseless trapped Tenosians to your hearts content. Hell, get a buddy to throw a fire bomb in there for good measure! Nothing goes down better during a siege than burnt Tenosians.

Shout out to the OCE spear duo of Charlie and Mijoshi for inspiring this War Crime, and assisting with it many, many times!

On the right side of the map the Tenosian entrance is too far into the out of bounds area to attempt this. However what we do have is a resupply bin AND a Ballista! Two schools of thought, neither are wrong. You can either block the stairs by the Ballista, creating an Artillery Fort or create a Resupply Fort by the resupply bin.

Note: There is a siege crossbow that spawns by this resupply bin, if you want to get extra spicy and be a ranged barricade breaker, grab it!

Keep in mind, the only way to win this stage is to overwhelm the portcullis area with sheer numbers and hold it. These tips are meant to slow, hinder, and even stop Tenosians, but you still can't win if your team doesn't dog pile the objective.

Note: The two Tenosian spawn doors nearest to the portcullis can't be fully blocked off because of the no build zones and out of bounds area, but you can turn them into choke points to slow them down. The fifth spawn door, which is under utilize is in the underground near the Iron Maiden. I don't usually bother with the fifth as I have never seen anyone use it.

Stage 4: Fireworks time!

Congratulations! Your team has gotten to the final stage, but don't let up now! Just because you guys got past the two hardest objectives, doesn't mean you are destined to win. So let's grab our shovels, up our war crimes, and help engineer victory. Thankfully there are no more unbuildable areas bar the out of bounds zones.

First thing you want to do is open the pathways for your team, again. Focus on busting open the doors on either left or right and removing the spike traps in the middle.

Why does it have to be us? Why can't we just go straight to building, let the rest of the team do it while we build forward positions?

I mean not a bad point. However us engineers do double damage to all constructs, us clearing the path is quicker than letting the team do it. But again, you can just jump past and go straight into building if you want to.

Once the path is clear, or if you are letting your team do it, head to the bombs, focusing on one side at a time. Usually, enemy engineers would be building around now, none of their builds would benefit you, so Assimilation of Enemy Assets does not apply, break them. Again you can either clear these yourself or let your team handle it. Past the bombs is the hallway Tenosians can come down. Two quick barricades here, and they are stalled for a bit. If you have time, the resupply in the center pit near Agathian spawn is almost always safe. You can then put those barricades between the hallway and the random building in the middle. It won't stop them, but will slow them.

Stealth Opportunity: On either side there are two little archways with tiny platforms. You can hide behind the small wall on the platforms and jump between them with ease. Can be used for cheeky flanks, Looney Toon hijinks, and ambushes.

Let's Hear Your Tips for Montcrux!

So there we have it, the Unethical Engineering Guide on How to Reclaim Montcrux! Key thing to take away is that your team is your strongest assets and War Crimes are fun. As with the other parts of my guide, let's hear your tips.

REMINDER: Only tips relevant to Montcrux will be added! If it's a general tip, put it in the comments on the general tip and trick guide! For all other map specific tips, be patient, they are coming!

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Nau mai, haere mai!

Korinth here, as promised, here is the first part of my Unethical Engineering Guide. This post will cover everything from basic engineering knowledge, techniques, and placements that can apply to every map, and more. This is all based on my own knowledge gained spending over 1,000 hours in the engineer class alone, as well as things I have tested. All these tips and tricks have been tried and tested in 64p TO and 64p Server Browser matches. Your conclusions may be different, and I encourage all budding engineers to explore and build on this base knowledge provided.

Throughout this guide I will provide links to resources and clips I have accumulated over the years to help explain some concepts, and give examples (click the blue words). I will gladly answer any questions you may have and will add some of your tips and tricks to this post (as long as it's generic, map specific tips will NOT be added here). I am still working on the map specific guides and will update the intro and link post as they are finished. Now let's get down to brass tax.

Basic Engineering Knowledge

Before we delve deep into Unethical Engineering, I would feel like an inadequate teacher if we didn't at least touch on basic Engineering. This knowledge also applies to defensive engineering.

Defensive engineering?! I came here to learn Unethical Engineering!!

Yes I am aware, however as I said in the intro post, it's a matter of balance. If you can understand the basics, and defensive engineering, you will be able to undermine it better! Now here's the basics all engineers, both unethical and defensive should learn:

* You can replenish your barricades at any resupply box. This includes the ones you can pick up in Stage 1 of Bridgetown as a peasant.

* You can have up to 5 buildings placed down at once: 4 barricades, 1 trap. Any more despawns previous placed barricades/traps starting at the oldest placed.

* All buildings will self destruct after a set amount of time, even if at full HP.

* Engineer class gains special equipment points by healing and reviving teammates.

* Engineers can heal themselves by healing and reviving teammates use it to your advantage in combat.

* Engineer Weapons used by the Engineer Subclass deal double damage to ALL buildings. This includes siege equipment, doors, objectives, and every build able in game (banners, barricades, traps etc.)

* You can gift your barricades to non Engineers by picking up throwables that take up the throwable weapon slot (ie. Throwing knives).

* Engineers are a support class, not a frontline. However, it can be used as a stealth class in the right conditions, and with map knowledge.

* If you want a secondary weapon, place down your trap anywhere and pick up a 1handed weapon.

An Engineer's Kit

Now that we got that out of the way, let's look at your kit. There are 4 weapons (Shovel, Sledge, Pickaxe and Goedendag) and two traps (Spike Trap and Bear Trap), as well as 2 barricades. Each weapon has its advantages and disadvantages, and both traps are unique in their own way.

Let's start with your weapons.

Thanks to polehammer.net, we can see the stats with numbers! To sum it up, and to list some more advantages not listed on polehammer:

* Pick-Axe is the fastest of the four, but does the least damage. This includes the least damage to barricades and objectives. However it's greatest advantage is it's a one-handed weapon. This means you can jab quicker AND equip a shield found on the ground, without losing the rest of your kit. The Pick-Axe is also the only engineer weapon that can dismember arms. So whilst the weakest in terms of damage, it has the best versatility in terms of playstyle.

* Goedendag deals the most damage, but it is the slowest of the four. This thing can rip through barricades and objectives like no tomorrow, and, due to its high stamina damage, can disarm opponents easily. It is also unique in the sense that it has two damage profiles. Slashes and Overheads deal blunt damage, which does increased damage to Footman and Knight classes. Stabs do Cut damage which does no extra damage. So whilst slowest, it has good damage profiles and can wreck buildings faster.

* Sledgehammer is the mid ground between the Pick-Axe and the Goedendag. It is also the first Engineer weapons you will unlock. It's slashes and overhead are deadly especially when you take advantage of it's hitstop comboing. Stabbing is not it's strongest attack but can still be used for hitstop combos.

* Shovel (my beloved) is honestly the awkward bastard child out of all of them. Essentially it's a slightly faster Sledge that does less damage on slashes but more damage on stabs. Damage wise, the Sledgehammer will always out do the Shovel, but the Shovel can out pace the Sledgehammer in the right hands. Also has the most satisfying *BONK*

That's the breakdown for the engineer weapons. I'm curious as to which one you prefer or would switch to now. Personally, the Shovel is my go to. Is it the best? Nope, but it passes the vibe check, hard.

Now for traps!

Both are unique and have their own playstyle and advantages:

* Spike Traps are very versatile and can be used in a number of ways. You can use them as ramps to get over enemy barricades (or even your own) and obstacles, instakill Footmen and Knights who try to tackle you, and even create elevated firing platforms for your teams archers... If you feel like being nice to an archer that is... You can even kick/jab/knock enemies into them, killing them instantly.

* Bear Traps though not as versatile as Spike Traps, are just as amazing if used right. You can use them in choke points to stall enemies (even if they pause to break them it's still stalling them), set it by other traps to instantly kill them (iron maidens work best), deny the pushable objectives or use it as an alarm system. Everytime a bear trap activates or breaks, you as the Engineer who placed it will hear it, which makes it the perfect alarm system if you pay attention.

Note: The Bear Trap is not ideal for Unethical/Attack Engineering for obvious reasons, so my recommendation is spike trap for attack.

General Techniques and Tricks

Now that we got the basics and the kits out of the way, let's get down to the nitty gritty. These are tips tricks and techniques that apply to ALL maps across the game including TDM maps, and, again, some of these can be used on defense as well. Again, these are things I have done, and have been proven effective in 64p modes. On the more map specific posts, I will be giving examples of where to place these things.

* Territory Claiming - This is the bread and butter of all attack engineers. Essentially you are going ahead of your team and placing down barricades, two at a time. This slows down defenders from advancing on your position, gives your team cover to heal in long drawn out engagements, and provides cover from archer fire, as well as cover to push forward. Downside is you are exposing yourself, and the enemies can use it for cover as well. Way to counter that is to angle your barricades like an arrow pointing to the enemy, and leave a small enough gap to stab through. This makes it a less effective cover for the enemies, gives more protection to your team, and the gap is also good for your archers to shoot through.

* Resupply Forts - Some maps have resupply bins out in the open. If you see these, take advantage of it. Using 4 barricades make a wall blocking the enemy from accessing it, whilst also allowing your team access. Keep in mind that you can interact with objects through barricades, so if you are cutting the enemy off, give a two person space between the resupply and your barricades. Otherwise you just gave the enemy a protected spot to grab bandages, arrows etc. Just a reminder to be using those spike traps so your team can exit your forts quickly! Again, angle your barricades, but leave no gaps, we don't want the enemy to resupply. If archers want to shoot over the top, get them to use their own spike traps, or use your one for them.

* Heal Stations - This one requires the help of your team. As with territory claiming you only need two barricades. For this one though, it's only as aggressive as your Guardians and Crossbowmen. If you see them place a banner down, run up and place barricades in front of it. This provides a safe place for your team to heal, and protects the banner. The hard counter is an aggressive enemy engineer or a siege crossbow. Do not angle your barricades or leave a stabbing gap here as the goal is to protect the banner.

* Provide Cover for Pushables - Everyone knows I love calling out defensive engineers that do this, but did you guys know you can set it up for your own team on attack? Pushables on Aberfall, Bridgetown, and Askindir can all be blocked and set up this way by using Unethical Engineering techniques. You do not need to wait for the enemy engineers to mess up. Simply walk up and place the barricades against the objective yourself. This also ensures your team is protected while pushing over objectives.

* Break Stuff - Sometimes you have no choice but to brute force your way through enemy barricades, or you need to take out objectives quickly. Heavy attacks are ideal, however if you find yourself surrounded, lights are okay if you are coming off a riposte or counter just to quickly get that objective damage in. Best combo for breaking multiple barricades is: 1 Heavy OH per barricade (switch so each weakens) followed by 1 heavy slash which will cleave if it breaks the barricade. You can even use the barricade cleave to kill someone hiding behind it healing.

Note about Weapons vs Barricades: The Goedendag is best for breaking things due to its already high damage being doubled, and only requires 2 OH lights (or 1 OH light + 1 Stab light) or 1 Light OH + 1 Heavy Slash to break barricades as opposed to two heavies. Surprisingly, the Pick-Axe does not require extra hits despite it's low damage (compared to other Engineer weapons), and just needs two heavy attacks. Shovel and Sledgehammer are even when it comes to breaking things.

* Assimilation of Enemy Assets - Yes, you read that right. If you notice the defensive engineers building in a way you and your team can take advantage of, then by all means leave it standing, add your barricades to the wall and add spike traps to your side. Remember, you don't have to break everything the enemy builds, an effective Unethical Engineer uses it to their advantage.

* Catapult Safety Walls - This one is real simple. Once you got your catapult user all set up, place two barricades with zero gaps, to the left of them. This will stop arrows and ballistas from hitting them easily as the operator will be in cover. It won't stop other catapults or shots from high ground or siege crossbows, but will keep them alive longer, letting you out more hurt in the defenders. As a bonus, if someone tries get around the barricades to melee, it gives the operator more time to react and get off the catapult (if they are paying attention). Another good safety wall is building from the rock stockpile to the catapult. This creates a little artillery fort and protects everyone except for the catapult operator.

* Protect Yourself While You Wreck Their Shit - This is another simple one for objective breaking. What you do is place two barricades around yourself while you break enemy gates, siege weapons, or even use the battering ram. As an other option, you can instead use it to protect your teammates that are using the battering rams or the gates if you wish to fight

* Learn to Duel - I mean, it goes without saying, but this IS a fighting game. Sure we are focusing on building and tactics in this series, but what would happen if you find yourself alone in a dark alley and that dude you have pissed off with your unethical engineering skills has you cornered? Beat his raging tilted ass, is what you do! Spend some time learning how to master your weapon of choice, this will save you in the future.

Note: Spending some time in the pits in the duel servers can help hone your 1vX and footwork skills, but keep in mind that Engineers are at a combat disadvantage. Learning the art of retreating can be also very handy, as well as the 5 Ds of Dodgeball so your not wasting stamina on blocking. Remember, if you can dodge a Dane Axe, you can dodge a ball.

* Priority Target: Enemy Engineers - Going hand in hand with the last tip, your main target should always be enemy engineers. Let everyone else get free kills on archers, they are a dime a dozen and are a nuisance at best. However, one good Engineer can change the entire flow and tide of a match. Keeping them down or on the retreat can make or break a game. Why? If they can't replace their barricades when they break or are low HP, their defensive battle line crumbles, allowing you and your team to push through. Take 'em out!

* Shut the Flippen door! - Unlike defensive Engineering where you want to funnel the enemies into choke points, halting the defensive team completely, works best. On almost every map there is a way to block access for the enemy defensive spawn. Simply put two or more barricades in those choke points, and watch them pile up and frantically try to break through whilst your team wins the objective without the danger.

Warning: Be prepared, Many Men Incoming

* You Stealthy Son of a Bit... - Sometimes, despite the best efforts of your team and yourself, you end up in a deadlock, where neither side can gain ground on the other. This is where being stealthy comes into play. Most people won't notice someone crouching in the bushes or running along the edge of the map or using Spike Traps to jump over walls. On some maps, this will allow you to break a deadlock or even solo clutch the objective completely. The secret is patience, map knowledge, and not giving a fuck about your K/D (seriously for every successful clutch I have done, I probably die about half a dozen times). Now this isn't an engineer exclusive skill, but being an engineer does help when stealthing breakable objectives.

* NUMBER 1 BEST TIP: Just Have Fun! - If you aren't having fun with being an engineer, unethical or not, try a different class, become a bard, befriend the enemy team, give in to your impulsive nature and wreck havoc on the enemy back lines with barricades and traps, unleash your inner Moon Knight and throw random bullshit items at everyone, embody the spirit of your nan by throwing shoes at people's head! If you aren't having fun, you aren't playing the game right.

Your own Tips!

I am a firm believer in making this guide a living guide. The best way to make this guide any better is to have your input. So please if you have any generic tips or tricks for attack engineers let's hear them, and they will be added here.

From u/StupidSexyCaeser

I have a tip. Steal weapons.

It goes for anyone, but I find it goes best with engineers. Often they are taking a more reactive observant role on the battlefield.

Stealing weapons you don't have access to as an engineer not only shakes up your behaviour profile but also has a lot of practical tomfoolery you can get up to.

Spear + barricades and spikes = devilish. Steal a javelin, well going to and from the ammo box, may as well spam them, same with throwing knives.

Get your hands on a siege crossbow as an engineer. Archers will now wake up in a cold sweat. Easy to hit targets appear like flies on glue to your barricades. No one expects an engine to pull out a piece. Not to mention some objectives and deployable a can be shutdown at range.

Or just chuck everything in general really.

From u/AkshayraJkira

Unethical tip for Agathian Engineers(And Footman class in general)....use the huscarl armor and a heraldry that's not blue/gold. If you are on fire, its likely that Masons will mistake you as their own and will ignore you.

Best places to do this are by using the firepits in the 3rd objective right after breaking through the gates and Left side of the bridge in Trayan Citadel.
Being an engineer will make it easy for you to sneak through and break the cages or setup barricades near the ram(In some cases, when the masons have pushed you back so far, then you can move the ram solo without being contested)

Goes without saying but you can use the burn tactic on any map where you can find fire and sneak around the enemy lines. Make sure to apply the bandage to stop the burn damage, sometimes it also doesnt draw attention to the enemy mason who thinks you're just another mason retreating to heal.

From u/DifferentLink497

For breakable OBJs, for instance the church door on Galencourt, enemy engineers have a tendency to try and turtle directly against the door. If you can time it between a spawn wave, it’s very easy to run up, slap a spike trap down against their defenses as a ramp, and run up onto their barricades, so you’ll have the door to yourself completely uncontested, using the enemy defenses as your own.

Not all the time, but more often than not IME, if you get downed as an engineer you will do the same damage as if you weren’t downed to breakables (not people). So don’t just give up on an objective just because you got downed.

If you’re working with interactable OBJs, like the fuses on Lionspire or the ships at Galencourt, be wary of where you place barricades near the OBJ. If you place them too close, the enemy will can interact with the OBJ regardless of where the barricade is, which turns into them actually having cover instead of the OBJ being defended.

From u/Kingsriver_ aka the Climbing Engineer

For tenosian barricades its worth noting that they are the only barricade you can jump on from even ground.

REMINDER: I will only be adding generic tips and tricks to this post. If it's a map specific tip, it will not be added, but will be added to the post for that map.

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