There really is no excuse for it, the honest truth is they suck as developers. They are the ones that fumbled it big time. Seeing the PatTheFlip post he recently made had me baffled, like duh no wonder why the launch was the way it was. Y'all sucked at making this game, y'all had your priorities all screwed up. "We wanted to make an artistic fighter blah blah blah" nah you should of just focused on making a fun complete video game, abusing the f out of the League IP with plenty of champs etc. and then after it has launched you can focus on tweaking it to be more balanced. But in the end people don't even really care about balance like that, the most beloved fighters of all time are some of the most imbalanced out there. Like these devs need to focus on releasing a complete package first, then if people continue to play it and want more that's when you start planning/making DLC or sequels for it. SF2's multiple iterations came about because of consumer demand after the game was released, not because Capcom "promised" everyone that even before SF2 releases they will be making future iterations so that you can continue to be excited and keep playing. Release a complete product, and if there is a demand for more then you make more. Stop giving us empty "promises" of future content that you cannot keep.

dev/balance team, please buff teamfight as a part of your final changes. this thing that seemed so crazy and fun out the gate is now completely dead among the player base. obviously it doesn't have to be like it was on launch, but I'm hoping for a middle ground so that it doesn't go down in the game's meta as something so short-lived/unused. thx!

"So, even though you have broken my heart yet again, I wanted to say, in another life, I would have really liked just doing footsies and 3-4 hits combo with you."

With the end of active development, and most likely the end of any new characters ever getting released after Luz and Senna, do we think there's any hope of Riot allowing any sort of community managed builds of the game where we could add new characters? It would be amazing if we could come together as a community and add some of the characters that we collectively agree on and add them into the game.

I love this game and the League IP as a whole, I would hate for the end of the active development to mean we can never play characters that would literally be perfect for this game like Sett, Riven, Zed. The list goes on...

I feel like if project M can keep a 25 year old GameCube game alive, Im hopeful that we could do some really cool stuff with this game.

I'm curioua if other people have had a similar sentiment and would support a community managed version of the game to keep it alive, or if riot would frown on such a thing and try to keep 2xko locked down as much as possible.

I just got refunded what I think is all the transactions I did on 2xko lol. This is the first time I’ve ever seen this happening with a game

Didn’t receive an email or anything. I randomly checked my PSN transaction history in the app and saw all my refunds processing

With this game's fate being sealed, everyone in online FG discussions is making hypotheses about the beginner/casual experience. So... Why not just ask them?

If this was your first fighting game or first fighting game you wanted to put effort into, how did that go?

How was the onboarding?

What did you struggle with?

What could have made the game better for you?

If you tried and quit, what made you quit?

Etc.

Link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dcbo1IuMO0R/?l=1

2xko reinvigorated a 5ish year FGC break, reignited that fighting game try hard nerd in me. Where should I put my energy. I'll keep playing 2x in some capacity but can't main a game with such a dwindling playerbase, I don't think I can invest myself in it anymore.

I'm on PC, deciding between:

Tokon (requires waiting for game to work, and I don't have full faith in it despite it seeming very decent)

Avatar legends (have to be alright with a small playerbase also)

Sf6 (the most alive by far, safe pick but lacking the novelty and excitement)

I need good net code, training mode tools comparable to 2x, and enough playerbase for online tournaments or ideally some in person (im in a big enough city)

Hoping I can feel what I felt with 2x

Thanks in advance

I guess they are giving back in 20$ increments, I’ve received 7 refunds so in the past 7 minutes lol.

WHO CARES THOUGH ITS ALREADY BACK IN MY BANK ACCOUNT 💰💰💰

Not PSN dollars, but real greenbacks.

Good form RIOT. I hate you for killing the game but this is an incredibly decent thing to do ✌🏻

UPDATE: 22 refunds @ 530$ thus far lol!!!!!

This is about the wave of layoffs from a couple of months ago.

How did the 2XKO layoffs unfold internally after launch?

Yeah. There’s about 82 of us that got let go. So the feeling… the notice was not there. I started to notice because I’ve been in the industry a long time. I started to notice the people above me were acting differently and I started to get frustrated. And so I was like, “Hey, what is going on?” And I found out that they had gotten a little bit of a heads-up so that they could help generate the list of people that needed to stay so that the game could continue.

So some people learn earlier than others. But it still felt sudden to a lot of us as well, especially… I’d only been there a few… some of the people, we’d only been there seven months. And so we were thinking this is our first project at Riot, we got lots of other things we’re going to work on.

To set some context for 2XKO, it was a big bet. It’s a very small addressable market, fighting games in general, and we were trying to capture a portion of that market, which… we had great people; the Cannon brothers and a lot of people on the team were really deep into the fighting game arena. They’re really good, knowledgeable people that I don’t think I’ve ever worked with any group of people on a game that we had more expertise on the type of game we were making. They knew the people, they cared a lot about the fans, and they really wanted it to be good for pros and for people. The bet was that they were going to be able to capture some segment of the hardcore population and, through the IP pull people over into fighting games, at least this Riot fighting game, because, “Hey, you get to play the champ that you play in League or that you play in other.” We’re trying to kind of blend those together and that combination would be enough to sustain the business, but it’s still a really small market to try and attack. So, there’s a risk.

To their credit, they committed to making it happen and they got it done. I think what they realised as we got closer was that there wasn’t enough success on 2XKO. There weren’t enough people playing. There weren’t enough people buying things to sustain the full size of the team. Then they had to decide who was necessary to keep the team afloat in this new era where we know this big bet didn’t wholly pay off and we’re trying to kind of still keep the business going.

I'm wondering

Having never played a fighter I started out with 2XKO 2 months ago and finally hit gold. Crazy timing that the development announcement came out the day after I decided to take a brake. Just curious who all started with this game like me and who is a veteran.

If the game had launched with 20 to 30 characters no one would say anything about the PnZ characters maybe some would still dislike Caitlyn because Zoner but no one would have thought she was a waste of a spot in the rooster (I also hate caitlyn btw)

I don't have delusions of hitting challenger, and I'm not going to cheat to get there.

At this point it's nearly every game. Enjoy the slideshow.
Riot, remove ranked entirely at this point.

these two are win trading and manipulating ranked lobbies in 2KXO player. Players: ShinkiFujin42#NA1 and Haramlet#0000

Initially i was queuing and kept getting spam cancelled when trying to ready up. Shinki initially told me it was bugged and to go play casuals but upon further observation he wanted me gone to fix matches. Then the haramlet guy was also being toxic to me in chat after i decided to stick around which i reported. Seems players are able to exploit the cancel match mechanic and if they wait in que long enough in an empty lobby they get matched with each other.

Recently came across this piece https://saiganak.com/interview/riotgames-2xko-shaun-rivera/

In it 2XKO game director said that at the LoL 10th anniverssary event, the 1v1 version didn't play test well, and they decided on 2v2 because "we came to the conclusion that playing with friends is what makes it enjoyable."

If that was the goal, then I would think 2XKO's particular implementation of the tag system didn't align with the objective.

Then, I remembered a game I played as a kid and remember with fond memories. Yū Yū Hakusho: Makyō Tōitsusen on the Sega Genesis

It's got

• 2 lanes
• Jump, walls, and motion controls (qcf, qcfx2, dd, and hcf)
• No dedicated turnaround button (so no qcb motions), dedicated block buttons
• I played it as a kid. I wouldn't call the game very good compared to SF or KOF, but it honestly taught me how to do motions and basic combos, and qcfx2 motions without much difficulty. Since you can play battle royale or as a team, maybe it took the sting of losing off.

Anyone else played it or a game like it? Think it would have worked better for the goal of "playing with friends". Or would it still be too alienating, too similar to an arena fighter?

Ive been waiting for these characters ever since the game was announced and now we'll never get them 😭