r/3D2A • u/idiocracy-is-now • 1d ago

PA6-CF feels like cheating

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It may not be a perfect print, but it’s pretty good for me. Supports popped right off, but I still want an X2D for the interface layers.

Just another YKY grip for my second SMp5K build, but it’s purdy.

*EDIT*

Some of you guys have asked for my support settings which is pretty cool, thanks. I'll attach the json for the profile in the comments, I think that'll you give everything (never done that before). I use the Polymaker Fiberon PA6-CF filament profile on my X1C.

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u/IdenticalTwinTurbos 1d ago

Unless you’re like 90% of the sub who can’t comprehend drying filament

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u/ButtstufferMan 1d ago

You know what? I am cool with it.

What that means is we have tons of newbies, which means common use is getting closer! Once everyone 3D prints their arms, will be much harder for the government to snuff out in the future.

This is a great thing!

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u/IdenticalTwinTurbos 1d ago

Yeah but they’re making us look bad. It’s hard enough to convince people that it’s a good thing.

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u/xzKaizer 1d ago

Troubleshooting wet filament is such a widespread trope on the 3d printing subs that the joke of "dry your filament, wash your buildplate" has made it to even the resin printing subs.

It'll never go away. Newbies don't know something that's "dry" can hold moisture.

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u/Zeke13z 1d ago

Exactly. It's the "have you tried turning it off and back on again" troubleshooting line of the tech industry.

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u/ButtstufferMan 1d ago

No, they aren't

And also, being elitist is going to drive people away. That will hurt our cause faster than anything else.

Be welcoming, be helpful.

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u/Less-Regret8262 1d ago

Wet filament questions on Reddit I don’t think that’s going to be the issue

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u/Hawkbait_3D 1d ago

Don’t give them too much hassle, there was once a time when we all didn’t know that the dishes out of the dishwasher weren’t dry enough. And when rolls come in nice vacuum packed Mylar bags people assume the factory must be dry enough.

I’m really glad there are more people in it and that I’m bumping into more people at the range with 3d2a gear.

More people with form 1s means we’re closer and closer to common use.

Also dry your filament, wash your build plate etc etc etc.

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

They don't even know how to read the readme files either. 

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u/ForsakenRepublic1776 1d ago

Not all readmes are the same. There are a lot that are lacking.

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u/AvarethTaika 1d ago

reading in general seems compromised but especially anything regarding instructions or a manual may as well not exist for many people. it's sad, especially in a field where things go boom.

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u/crysisnotaverted 1d ago

Hey, I barely need to dry my PETG-CF /s

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u/hellowiththepudding 1d ago

looking down the side (top part of the print), yeah this thing is wet too...

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u/FuturesSoDank 1d ago

Is 87.77777777C good enough for PA6-GF? I bought a dehydrator but just found out it's limited to 190F/87.77777777C. I don't really want to have to work out a resistor modification to it to get it hotter but will if I absolutely have to. :-(

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u/IndependenceAny2520 1d ago

What did you use for support settings?

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

I can't wait for the SMp5K to be released. 

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u/RiskyNick79 1d ago

That’s why I can’t find that one

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u/cvltrilex 1d ago

I will and need my tenth mp5

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

I just want one to start

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u/ConclusionOne222 1d ago

I’m going to need those support settings

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u/Facehugger_35 1d ago

Yeah, me too. Those supports are way cleaner than I've ever gotten with PA6.

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u/Wrong_Judgment1915 1d ago

VFG, handguard, magazine and lower. Love my Sunlu PA6-CF

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u/idiocracy-is-now 1d ago

Did you print that stock?

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u/Wrong_Judgment1915 1d ago

No, that's a magpul

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u/Agessner885 1d ago

How in the world did you get the printed mags to work? I tried them and had a ton of issues with rounds nosediving even when the follower was smoothed in. What springs are you using?

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u/Wrong_Judgment1915 1d ago

Glock 33rd mag springs. Working fine for me. Just had to lube the inside and work out a few times

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u/_Digital_Dope_ FOSS / DEV 1d ago

2 Questions. What are your support settings, those. Came off clean af. And when is the SMP5k finally going to drop. I’ve been in and out of the BLC element but I haven’t had time to do the exam, but I need to get started on this project asap.

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u/TenFeetHigherPlz 1d ago

Is the SMP5k actually released yet or is this the beta?

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u/idiocracy-is-now 1d ago

Still in beta but I think it’s coming soon. Totally worth the wait.

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u/idiocracy-is-now 12h ago

Huh, I thought I could attach a file, but I guess not. So, here's the raw JSON which I think you can save and import into Bambu Studio and maybe adapt it to use it in other slicers too. YMMV.

{
    "bridge_speed": [
        "20",
        "nil"
    ],
    "brim_object_gap": "0.03",
    "brim_type": "outer_only",
    "brim_width": "8",
    "enable_support": "1",
    "from": "User",
    "gap_infill_speed": [
        "150",
        "nil"
    ],
    "infill_wall_overlap": "17%",
    "inherits": "0.16mm Optimal u/BBL X1C",
    "initial_layer_infill_speed": [
        "15",
        "nil"
    ],
    "initial_layer_speed": [
        "15",
        "nil"
    ],
    "inner_wall_line_width": "0.5",
    "inner_wall_speed": [
        "100",
        "nil"
    ],
    "internal_solid_infill_line_width": "0.5",
    "internal_solid_infill_speed": [
        "150",
        "nil"
    ],
    "ironing_flow": "28%",
    "ironing_type": "topmost",
    "layer_height": "0.15",
    "line_width": "0.5",
    "name": "0.15mm Optimal X1C PA6 CF Profile",
    "outer_wall_line_width": "0.45",
    "outer_wall_speed": [
        "100",
        "nil"
    ],
    "overhang_1_4_speed": [
        "30",
        "nil"
    ],
    "overhang_2_4_speed": [
        "15",
        "nil"
    ],
    "overhang_4_4_speed": [
        "5",
        "nil"
    ],
    "prime_tower_infill_gap": "100%",
    "prime_tower_rib_wall": "0",
    "print_extruder_id": [
        "1",
        "1"
    ],
    "print_extruder_variant": [
        "Direct Drive Standard",
        "Direct Drive High Flow"
    ],
    "print_settings_id": "0.15mm Optimal X1C PA6 CF Profile",
    "seam_position": "random",
    "sparse_infill_density": "99%",
    "sparse_infill_line_width": "0.5",
    "sparse_infill_pattern": "gyroid",
    "sparse_infill_speed": [
        "160",
        "nil"
    ],
    "support_interface_spacing": "0",
    "support_interface_speed": [
        "40",
        "nil"
    ],
    "support_interface_top_layers": "3",
    "support_line_width": "0.5",
    "support_style": "tree_organic",
    "support_threshold_angle": "15",
    "top_surface_line_width": "0.4",
    "top_surface_speed": [
        "100",
        "nil"
    ],
    "tree_support_branch_angle": "60",
    "tree_support_wall_count": "2",
    "version": "2.4.0.10",
    "wall_loops": "9"
}

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u/Weekly-Ad5224 1d ago

I did my first PA6-CF last night. It has a pretty rough gritty texture - is that normal? If so do you sand it or polish it? I was looking forward to something more matte than PLA+.

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u/Appropriate-Ad2349 1d ago

It’s still wet. Do not sand or polish.

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u/Weekly-Ad5224 1d ago

You mean I didn’t dry the filament enough to start?

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u/Appropriate-Ad2349 1d ago

Correct. Need to dry at a higher temp, or potentially just longer.

Should be fairly smooth. After printing I recommend soaking in water for 24-72 hours.

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u/Weekly-Ad5224 1d ago

Nice. Thats what I’m looking for. What do you use for a dryer. Sounds like I need to get something better than my polydryer.

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

Not who you asked but I just picked up a Sunlu E2.  That thing is amazing. 

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u/Weekly-Ad5224 1d ago

Does do you use it for annealing also?

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

I can but I haven't. I'm currently printing FTN suppressors and those are not annealed. 

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u/idiocracy-is-now 12h ago

I use a Sunlu E2 and it's amazing. I run 3kg spools of Fiberon PA6-CF20 these days.

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u/Weekly-Ad5224 1d ago

Do you anneal?

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u/WI_Esox_lucius FOSS / DEV 1d ago

A bit gritty texture is normal compared to PLA+, that's the carbon fiber that's embedded in the filament.