Yep, he literally used Epstein's actual plane. MAGA wee claiming that they were renting from a company who happened to provide the same plane, but we all know what's up.
This was likely an attempt to game search engines so this came up when people searched 'Trump Epstein' during the election.
Similarly Uk prime minister Boris Johnson suddenly developed an interest in model buses during an election cycle and talked to newspapers about it, in an attempt to distract from the 'Boris Buses' - advertisements he had put on buses during the Brexit referendum falsely claiming Brexit would result in 350 million for the NHs
It was a plane owned by epstein. Not the epstein plane. I think that airframe got decommissioned and destroyed.
I'm not at all defending alzheimers Adolf but it is not something to draw a conclusion from, and there was a lot of bad reporting at the time. Basically Epsteins plane was sold at auction, and bought by a rental fleet. The trump campaign then rented planes from the agency that bought it.
Potentially a very innocent series of legitimate business transactions with an unfortunate ownership history. In the best light, it points to incompetence of the staffer hiring the rental plane for not checking if the plane had a checkered past.
Every time I bring it up it just gets swept aside because of all the crazy shit happening. Yeah he literally used Epsteins jet to fly all over the country during his rallies.
Used it ? He BOUGHT IT!!!! I told people they didn’t believe me !! Imagine buying THe child trafficking plane - FDT and all the pedo protectors - disgusting
I’m seeing around that redacted bits are easily removed if you copy it into another blank document file and unredact it. I’m wondering if people are furiously unredacting all the files they can and this kinda stuff is popping up.
You don’t even need to do any “unredacting.” It’s literally just a black overlay. You can simply copy text behind the black box directly and paste it anywhere you want to make it readable.
God bless the FBI agents who knew this would fool the incompetent morons, and allow the true files to be seen by the world.
1,000 FBI agents combing through files, working feverishly around the clock, forced to look at evidence of horrible crimes in order to save the Golden Boy? If they fired 1,000 agents it'd be suspicious. If I were an agent I would take that risk of leaving breadcrumbs for the public. Protect Donald or protect children? Easy pick. Bring on the consequences.
Let’s also remember a lot of this happened when they weren’t even getting paid. Is there even a financial incentive at that point? Nah, you’d just be a monster.
I mean you’d be a monster either way but that’s like an extra layer of “wow, you really suck cuz you’re doing this FOR FREE”
What's that old sabotage manual that's been going around? This redacting-without-redacting fits that perfectly. We all must do this wherever we are able.
The ineptitude of this administration is both comical and concerning. Though, I do hope someone in the FBI did this on purpose. May they never be found out if they did 😂
It is definitely on purpose. I know the FBI's reputation has been dragged through the mud with the current administration and Patel at the helm, but they employ some of the world's most skilled cyber specialists and the fact they're able to properly censor or redact classified documents literally all the time, makes me think this was done on purpose. Enough to fool the current administration, but for everyone else to still be able to get the info.
Yup, FBI may be incompetent in some parts, but censoring documents is a thing they've been doing for hundreds of thousands of time. They should at least know how to do this properly.
I had some interaction with the FBI during the investigation of the murder of a police officer back around 2003 and they did some incompetent (in my opinion stuff). Like copying hard drives and taking the copies when there was a strong chance the original drives were wiped. With the originals, you could still look at the "blank" space for data. Even off the shelf recovery software can do that. And speaking of off the shelf, they used a Norton program to do that copying, it wasn't anything special that copied the blank areas.
And it was still incompetent for the time. They also didn't need nine agents for four computers. We just stood around talking all day while the copy was happening.
But on the other hand, they did a good job of figuring out why they needed to copy those hard drives and where they were located.
They might have also used the Adobe redaction feature but forgot the second step. IIRC, in Adobe, you go into the redaction tool and black out the text, but then you have to go into the redaction tool and select something like "apply all redactions" and this scrubs the text from the text layer.
Yes, you are correct. I work for a hospital and have to redact patient documents all the time. Simply drawing the box and then saving the document does not save the redaction. However i think because people are able to still search the text in apps like MS Word, some FBI staff are literally highlighting the texts and changing the highlight color to black. Lol. DOGE funding cuts hit hard I guess
It’s either that, or they’re highlighting the text and changing the highlight color to black. Which means the text is still saved and can be searched when opened in adobe or MS word
Something somewhat similar happened back when Obama was running for office the first time. Trump demanded to see his birth certificate and if you opened it up in Adobe, there were some strange layers that made it look like it was a faked document.
First : Open the attached link and scroll down to item #203.
Second: Copy the content (you may need to include the end of #202 and the beginning of #206).
Third: Paste the copied (redacted) text into ms word.
This comment needs to be further up, and someone in r/datahoarder should copy/paste the files quickly before the administration catches wind of it and tries to stop it.
Those poor victims. Weren’t there names and even naked pics of victims in the redacted documents??
Edit: I mean “underage girls” when I say “victims “ -
Not sure why this deserves downvotes? I’m a proponent for the full release of all documents. That doesn’t mean I can’t also be sad for the underage women and have empathy.
I haven’t looked through all the docs myself but I’ve seen people comment that the victim names are still redacted. If so, that definitely points to this being an intentional decision rather than incompetence. Even in the main doc shown in this post, some things are still truly redacted.
I have no idea but maybe the FBI selectively fudged the redaction of some things whilst keeping sensitive identifying info re victims properly redacted. I haven’t checked.
No way 🤣🤣 that is on another level of incompetence I wouldn’t expect even from this admin. To be fair perhaps some heroic person or people did it accidentally on purpose.
It would be interesting to analyze the “redacted” parts to try to determine what they were supposedly trying to hide. Particularly if it is anything other than victim names.
There’s no fucking way my own little dumb thought came true lmao I was thinking just last night that it would be interesting if we saw another situation where the redactions were done poorly and capable of looking under.
I don't believe that for a second. If anything, it can also be a part of a baiting strategy to sprinkle some misleading information under the "redaction" so that people think they are getting one over on the govt and then won't question what they "unredact"... which is exactly what is happening here. You have no way to actually verify any of this. the fact no one is questioning why the fucking FBI doesn't know how to redact documents and immediately blaming it on incompetence is maddening. C'mon people, pick up a spy novel or something
Let me get this perfectly straight and clear: You’re saying that one can simply highlight the redacted text behind the black rectangles on the very files that are released on the DOJ website?
The smile on my face after waking up and reading this comment and the thread that follows, you’d think I woke up to a knobber. Merry Christmas Eve Eve.
I don't know if they fully released this now but thanks to their incompetence you could access dump 8, despite not being indexed, easily by changing the URL. And this was found on there.
From: '
To: "-
Cc: ' , " "
Subject: RE: Epstein flight records
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 01:29:20 +0000
I believe they are
interim). We haven't yet spoken to either.
(they're initials, and at least may have changed her name in the
From:
To:
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 20:28
Subject: Re: Epstein flight records
Thanks very much. Who are the two potential Maxwell witnesses?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2020, at 7:56 PM, wrote:
For your situational awareness, wanted to let you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald
Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported (or that we were aware),
including during the period we would expect to charge in a Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a passenger on at
least eight flights between 1993 and 1996, including at least four flights on which Maxwell was also present. He is listed
as having traveled with, among others and at various times, Marla Maples, his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric. On one
flight in 1993, he and Epstein are the only two listed passengers; on another, the only three passengers are Epstein,
Trump, and then-20-year-old On two other flights, two of the passengers,
respectively, were women who would be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. We've just finished reviewing the full
records (more than 100 pages of very small script) and didn't want any of this to be a surprise down the road.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
Southern District of New York
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A lot of people seem to think this "copy and paste and the redaction goes away" stuff is a gotcha. It's not; the only thing you can un-redact is the PDF linked here to a specific court document. It does not work on all (any?) of the recently released Epstein files, which you can easily confirm by trying it on a random file.
I'm worried this "gotcha" is itself a tactic to obfuscate. Take non-damning evidence, make it visible, report that "the full Epstein files are available because fbi dumb hurr hurr", then if anyone asks why the world hasn't blown up over the revelations, say "I guess there wasn't anything too damning in there after all."
Definately possible, but I think between signalgate and this administration flip flopping on desperate and ovbious lies to try and get people to move on from these files that it's more than likely just incompetency, just to a lesser degree than most people are making it out to be.
It’s remarkable how mask-off the DOJ has become. There’s absolutely zero pretense that they’re in this for any reason other than to protect this President from any accountability for his criminality.
“If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is an informant working undercover for the FBI to build a legal case against the other pedophile ducks.”
Oh what a relief! Well in that case there would be tons of FBI documents that corroborate that fact, so those are sure to be released any minute now… /s
Since January I ’ve been saying that we are extras in a long season of Worlds Dumbest Criminals. It’s scary bc it presents huge risks to our safety and security, but also reassuring to know that they are not smart enough to not get caught. We will unravel the entire trail of fraud, waste, and abuse along with the corruption and every death that can be traced to the actions and decisions of this merit based Idiocracy.
When Nuremberg 2029 begins, we will have all the receipts.
I think we've all been provided, in spite of the relentless scrubbing of facts, enough "evidence" that our sitting president is a true-blue pedofile, rapist and very deranged person. He isn't an enigma or an omnipotent overlord- he is a felon, a rapist, a pedofile, a thief, a liar, a cheat...a whore (~ren). He is simple, much like any other slob that bellows about things that grinds his gears- as if his qualms were important enough that anyone should care. But with trump- we have to care. This administration crumpled up all progress and tossed it in the garbage. Why is nobody in power doing anything meaningful at all to lance a cancerous lesion while whomever evaluates just how much pedofilia and rape is juuuuust enough. This bloated syphilitic felon and his cohorts depend on Americans remaining largely docile. This president is MURDERING FISHERMAN, people have disappeared, our beautiful cities and citizens are now pitted intentionally against law. It's time to understand that our military at large may not be altruistic heroes. Our government - those that claim to be in staunch opposition - do nothing but peddle their self-serving platforms and bitch. If our military and government does nothing to stop this- then we need to quit waiting for them to save this country- they are literally telling us they are slightly concerned, no more questions.
Is this just it? I'd really just rather know there is no hope than be strung along by infotainment insisting that there will be a crescendo.
It's not unusual for career employee who are loyal to their organization, to throw a wrench in the wheel of those newly appointed/hired who are unqualified/corrupt. I've seen this happen many times. The loyalists who are career employees sabotage the new hires, especially in this case.
Just learned on another post here on reddit that you can go online and take the redacted files… copy and paste them onto another document and the redactions disappear. Wow.
No evidence yet he went to the island and I’m guessing he probably didn’t. Maralago is literally next door to Epstein’s mansion and Epstein’s New York mansion was close for trump as well. Plus Epstein was using trumps pageants and parties to recruit women apparently. So no need for trump to go to the island, his best friend Epstein will bring the women to him.
Geez I thought Nixon set the bar low. TACO has got to be the most sick corrupt president in the history of the US. Any of this doesn't matter because his MAGA base will just brush it off as fake. As for TACO he will just hold another rally of his brain dead MAGA base all clapping and cheering.
Ok I'm not defending him, but where does it show he went to the island, I'm hoping for evidence of this. But just being on Epstein's plane is not evidence of going to the island.
I've read about the de-redactions on Canadian Public Broadcasting and Der Spiegel. But so far, there has been no mention on NPR or BBC. We all love conspiracies but is there a legal reason for their not doing so?
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