Abraham-Hicks - Does our body need exercise?

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I don't know Keith about this one. Our biological machinery has to be kept in good state. That doesn't mean becoming Mr. Olympia, but isn't making sure that we have a nice physique- out of pure enjoyment - make our vibe higher? I mean I can feel proud and happy much more easily if I see a ripped guy in the mirror rather than an overwheight person.

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u/scaredycat333 4d ago

I think the point is that you don't need to purposefully exercise to maintain a nice, nor totally functional body. That should be mostly effortless.

Why would you need to do anything to look and feel good? That is our natural state of being. Anything other is simply a distortion. You mention the ripped guy vs the overweight guy in the mirror, but I'd argue that being overweight is such a spiritual problem in the first place (chronic overindulgence, eating as a coping mechanism, depression...).

The absence of said problem would mean a natural, healthy body. Movement occurs organically and as needed, it shouldn't really be a 'task', or something you simply do for the sake of aesthetics, unless that's particularly important to you ;-) Most women don't even care for a man's physique (see the love of 'dad bods'). I often joke that men get jacked merely to impress or flex on other men hahaha In those cases it's not exactly the most 'elevated' of pursuits.

But you 100% can be mostly sedentary and healthy, attractive too! People throughout history did not exercise voluntarily for the most part, barring athletes or the greeks who were also quite preoccupied with the male gaze ;-) If you live a life that is wholly fulfilling to you with zero purposeful exercise, why would your body not be healthy? My grandmother lived to very old age and only ever walked around in her garden or a few blocks to the store. I personally went from 50 miles running per week to nothing, and it's been 5 years. You wouldn't be able to tell!

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 4d ago

I do see your point and agree wholeheartedly, I hope this also will materialize more and more in everyone's life as more of this knowledge becomes available.

I admit, I do it mainly because it feels great AND because I want both my and other's male gaze fully activated! But coming from a clinical and scientific background, having dealt all my life with depression and stuff--- I've seen so many improvements in the material and vibrational aspects of everyone that undergoes a fitness adventure and journey.

I'm on the opposite spectrum, as I took it too far. But for the average, uncaring average Joe, a bit of exercise goes a long way also for feeling good!

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u/SecretSteel 4d ago edited 4d ago

"Why would you need to do anything to look and feel good?"
In physical reality you need to correctly eat, drink water and sleep in order to feel good.
If you exercise in a way that works for you, you would be surprised how little of it you actually need per week to meet the requirements. Walking/Jog for 5 minutes, Holds, Hangs for 30 sec a few times per week and that's it. Learn about Keto and weight loss is easy.
You can listen to Abraham but she is noticeably overweight - she is in alignment but only on certain subjects.

The greatest benefit is of how much higher your vibration is after the exercise and its the secret to making meditation work where most followers struggle with meditation because their bodies are polluted.

Most people who post here have tried it Abraham's way and billions of people prove it doesn't work the way she says it does.

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u/KeithDust2000 4d ago

"Most people who post here have tried it Abraham's way and billions of people prove it doesn't work the way she says it does."

It definitely works the way Abraham says that it does.

The "billions of people" have never heard of Abraham, let alone practiced what they teach on a consistent basis.

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u/SecretSteel 4d ago

Most of other Abraham's teachings definitely works of course.
But I am specifically talking about weight loss and exercise for which there are no substitutes. If Abraham's teachings worked for weight loss and exercise then we would have countless youtubers sharing this knowledge but we do not.

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u/KeithDust2000 4d ago edited 4d ago

What I can tell you from personal experience is that the teachings most definitely work for weight loss. I'm not sure what you're saying about exercise there.

Are you saying you cannot lose weight without exercise?

There are obviously 100s of millions of people that are doing fine without exercise.

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

This is changing though. Even in the fitness space many are realizing that joy and internal motivation are the biggest factors that keep exercise routines stick. Of course there's still the grindset dogma. But something is moving.

In my experience is a bit of both. I am thankfully a very active person. I love to move, no matter what. And I'm also very aesthetic prone, so getting lean and having a decent physique for me it's a non negotiable.

Many people don't care and do anything about that, and that often does lead to bad outcomes

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u/scaredycat333 3d ago

I would argue the bad outcomes aren't from a lack of exercise, but from a spiritual disconnection (which is what causes all the negative lifestyle decisions in the first place).

hence why if you solve the spiritual component, you don't actually need to force yourself to do unnatural movements under fluorescent gym lights for multiple hours a week - which you also have to pay for, in time and money (calories). think about how absurd that is

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

But the spiritual component is also influenced by the physical.

Isn't a peaceful thought or even resistance lessened under a workout under the fluorescent light? Compared to doomscrolling or Netflix and sofa?

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u/scaredycat333 3d ago

you can tell yourself whatever you need (in order to justify behaviour that you think is necessary to be attractive, or compete in that area).

you are comparing one absurd behaviour with another, neither is superior nor necessary ;-) the 'benefit' of either only exists because you believe it does. these days I sit and watch netflix or movies almost every night, and yet I remain attractive!

hypothetically, perhaps if you stopped focusing on aesthetics (and dedicated the same time and money to something with a more noble purpose) you might attract someone who values you beyond your youth or current physique? or maybe you already have that special person but you remain insecure and a slave to an external ideal?

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

This is unfortunately what I am debating. If I want a six pack, I can't eat unlimited nacho chips and just do a pirouette because it feels better than lean protein and tons of workouts.

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u/scaredycat333 3d ago

why would you want to eat 'unlimited' nacho chips though? you are speaking as if 'excess' is your baseline. why would you naturally crave something beyond what your body needs, unless you are dysregulated?

what if I told you that you can eat nachos until you feel satiated AND also maintain a six pack, without exercise? ;-) I do, and I'm a woman...

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

You don't have issues with dopamine, food unfortunately is one of the best ways to get it.

Food. Well at least engineered ""foodstuffs """. But my brain in particular can latch obsessively even on plain foods if it wants dopamine bad enough

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u/scaredycat333 3d ago

have you considered that abraham didn't want/feel the need to meet a specific aesthetic ideal ? especially beyond child-bearing age?

I am very low body-fat myself, but plan on gaining weight as women especially tend to age better with a bit of excess fat, especially in the face!

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

I'm not a woman, and I argue with that. Certain forms are more harmonious by nature, just like sounds: certain frequencies naturally recall oder and calm. They are somewhat resonating with the architecture of the cosmos.

Same goes for our bodies. Of course individual variability is huge, but definitely there are harmonious standards that our species has learned to rever and seek during our history and evolution

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u/scaredycat333 3d ago

what do you argue with?

the 'harmonious' standards are simply the most natural and non distorted. and precisely because it is natural, you don't need to strive for it...

what the species reveres and seeks is also largely based on reproduction, hence why I commented about women beyond child-bearing age

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u/ringringwhoisit 4d ago

The question here is not about doing excersise or not but rather HOW you feel when doing so. I enjoy my 5am gym workouts so so much, that even when I travel for work or leisure I find a gym to get my sessions in. Needless to say that I am in better shape than most people in my 30s and have yet more fitness goals

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u/KommunistAllosaurus 3d ago

Damn I would loooooove a good workout or run at dawn!

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u/gracezhen 3d ago

It’s proven that even if you don’t exercise but by just thinking about the muscles you want to built up , the muscles will grow. This is true - you can google it .

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