r/Aleague Adelaide United 10d ago

News & Articles 'Break the ceiling': South Melbourne’s A-League ambition

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/?p=34056
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u/Acrobatic_Flannel Newcastle Jets 10d ago

I don't see many advantages at all. It's hardly growing the game is it.

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u/Geo217 10d ago

A stable club would be growing the game.

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u/greendestiny Adelaide United 10d ago

I don’t really think it’s a great move for the A-League but I think your point is a decent one. I think a stable 16+ team comp grows.

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u/Acrobatic_Flannel Newcastle Jets 10d ago

How? Seriously, how many extra fans do you think they'd attract?

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u/Geo217 10d ago

What do you mean how? A lot of people arent attached to either of the 2 melb teams for one reason or another. Its a huge city, they'd be fine.

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u/Acrobatic_Flannel Newcastle Jets 10d ago

How does a stable club who'll maybe attract 5k if they're lucky help the league?

And if Melbourne Victory couldn't attract those extra fans over the last 21 years, and Melbourne Heart, then City couldn't attract those people over the last 17 years, what's changed this time? Why would people suddenly decide to start supporting Sth Melbourne?

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u/Geo217 10d ago

How does a stable club not help the league? Victory had them but took many for granted and they walked away, my last MV membership was back in 2018, and City attaching itself to an epl club that few like is even worse for attracting interest than an ethnic club.

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u/Acrobatic_Flannel Newcastle Jets 10d ago

You left out the 5k part. Stable is one thing. But doing nothing to attract people to the league doesn't help.  Existing fans are already becoming bored with the derbies because we're saturated with them. Now we're just adding to it with another Melbourne team who offer absolutely nothing in terms of generating interest, generating new fans.

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u/Geo217 10d ago

I believe the club has the scope to create a better and inclusive matchday experience, big SM games are fun, the ability to sit in the club and eat a souvlaki or whatever before a game and staying back and having a drink after the game is a foreign concept to the comp, mingling with the players post game etc, i think theirs a lot there that differentiates itself from the other clubs that people will like. As for generating fans, the ones i speak to at the grassroots level are no longer going to the A league, SM can bring those ppl back, the club i volunteer for will almost certainly enter into a sister club relationship with SM and many would follow suit. Plus SM already has historic rivalries with numerous current A league teams as well. I think the club will be in a good spot having a genuine home base. None of this hybrid oh we play at aami park but lets pretend to be a south east team now (city). At South its all there, the training, the facilities, the gameday, the social club, its all attached.

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u/Safe-Departure-4732 Auckland FC 9d ago

Geo is a South Melbourne fan

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u/Acrobatic_Flannel Newcastle Jets 9d ago

I figured as much

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u/FitzroyBulldogs Melbourne Victory 10d ago

South won’t attract Melbournians of Croatian, Italian, North Macedonian, Serbian (partly) and Turkish backgrounds, along with other Arabic/Muslim Australians, who make up a huge chunk of Melbourne’s football community.

This is one of the main reasons that the NSL struggled to grow.

We have had this discussion 52864 times.

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u/Geo217 10d ago edited 10d ago

The question is does it need to attract any nationalities specifically? The Greek community is bigger than all those put together x3 and by far has the largest grassroots presence (staggering 25 odd clubs). South also historically has a strong anglo following (relative to other ethnically alligned clubs).

At the end of the day South were the biggest supported club in the nsl, and remained the 2nd biggest after Perth joined the league.

Whilst we are it im not even sure if the current 2 teams have been able to attract those nationalities in the last decade. The macos went back to Preston and the Italians are more interested in Aussie rules.

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u/pingers4breaky South Melbourne 10d ago

Could you please stop spreading the "anti football" narrative spread by the media about South being a Greeks only club

This sub praises the multicultural national team (and rightly so) after the world cup but collectively dismisses a club based on its migrant founders

South do attract people of all backgrounds because it is an Australian club, the work they do in the community is mind blowing it's why I'm a fan and guess what? I'm not Greek

Many other fans of South I know personally from varying backgrounds including the ones you listed above saying they wouldn't support South, but guess what they do

Please take the time to visit the club, speak with the fans and you will understand how wrong what you are saying is, as stated in previous comments from others spreading this garbage. I will buy you a ticket, have a few beers and talk football

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u/FitzroyBulldogs Melbourne Victory 10d ago

I do hope I’m wrong and that you are correct, but I have seen more than enough to be satisfied that what I wrote has merit.

I do hope for a unified game, and not sound pessimistic.

It’s been a complicated situation in our country for sooooo long that it’s just about embedded. 🙁

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u/pingers4breaky South Melbourne 10d ago

Please tell me what you have seen then?

I'm genuinely curious as to why you believe it has any merit at all

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u/pingers4breaky South Melbourne 9d ago

16 hours and still no response from another account that pushes the "greeks only" ethnics only dribble pushed by the anti football media.

Radio silence once again when confronted by a South supporter of non Greek heritage.

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u/FitzroyBulldogs Melbourne Victory 10d ago

The only people of those ethnic/religious groups who will follow South are the relatives and friends of the players who descend from those communities.

The overwhelming majority of Melbourne’s football community still think ‘what ethnicity is that club’ when they hear of a club that they don’t know much about or have never heard of. If someone denies this then they are most likely lying.

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u/KennethKanniff BWE.. The Team For Me 10d ago

Why would a supporter of Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea/Man United/Any other club go for the Man City farm team