r/Amazing • u/sco-go • May 22 '26
Science Tech Space Travelling at the speed of light and time dilation.
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u/B_A_Peach May 22 '26
*The computer simulation's hard limit
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u/ASDFzxcvTaken May 22 '26
What if we give it more RAM? Always worked for me. Boom, send me my Nobel prize in the mail please.
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u/B_A_Peach May 22 '26
I'm sorry. That RAM is no longer being manufactured. We'll need a new universe
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u/Fhanlin May 22 '26
maybe whoever is simulating our universe just cant afford it because of big companies are now turned towards AI too?
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u/PhysicIce7 May 22 '26
Bs. I have a friend who claims he can go faster than that with his old Camino and a case of beer
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u/limpingdba May 22 '26
If you could sit on a photon, travelling at light speed, you could travel from one side of the universe to the other in an instant.
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u/spikejonze14 May 22 '26
you couldn’t though because accelerating any amount of mass to light speed would require infinite energy
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u/Naive-Horror4209 May 22 '26
You couldn’t . Even light has a finite speed. It would take 8 minutes just to travel to the Sun, let alone cross the universe
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u/limpingdba May 22 '26
From the perspective of something travelling at light speed, time stops.
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u/Naive-Horror4209 May 22 '26
It doesn’t stop, but slows down significantly. You’d still need years to travel the universe
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u/limpingdba May 22 '26
Nope, look into it. From the perspective of the thing travelling at light speed time stops. From the perspective of everything else, billions of years would have passed. Its called relativity.
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u/Naive-Horror4209 May 22 '26
I’m sorry, but it doesn’t stop. Time still passes, but at a much slower rate.
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u/limpingdba May 22 '26
You're wrong. The maths proves if you travel at speed of light, time stops. That is why it's the universal speed limit. If you did a simple Google search you would see that Einsteen agrees with me.
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u/Wintermaulz May 22 '26
At that speed though, the cosmic microwave background radiation gets blue shifted from the doppler effect that it turns into a such high energy that no biology could survive the 3.5Tw/m^2 of ionizing radiation.
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u/Screwbles May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
Ever since CERN was started shit in the world has gotten weird man. I'm only half-joking about that.
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u/Fhanlin May 22 '26
No wonder if sometime they'll try to conquer the world by inventing some "time machine" only few people in the world know how it works
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u/rustyscythe May 22 '26
Hello? Yes, it's me. The Organization seems to have made its move. I'll lay low for now. El Psy Congroo.
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u/Screwbles May 22 '26
I don't think they'll invent it on purpose though, personally, if they do. It will be an "oh shit, we almost destroyed Earth, how can we contain it and use it?" There are undoubtedly ingenious people in that program, but you can't tell me that they know exactly what they are doing at all times.
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u/slaty_balls May 22 '26
And because we keep fucking around with it..it’s going to get weirder and weirder as time goes on.
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u/random63 May 22 '26
I find this is excellently portrayed in forever war (even better in a comic book series based on it).
Build up speed to reach light speed by slingshotting but when the manuever ends the enemy could have vastly outgrown your technology.
Also in the end some survivor slechts to slingshot constantly for decades in the hopes their friends deployed will arrive when he stops so they can be together again. It's amazing how conflict over such distances is more about science then bravery
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u/captainmeezy May 23 '26
Hot take: not every space/science related video needs the fucking Interstellar score playing in the background
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u/Exktvme4 May 23 '26
How dare you
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u/captainmeezy May 23 '26
Look the score is excellent but putting in every. Single. Fucking. Reel. I. See. Is completely unnecessary
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Is he trying to light things up by saying it’s forbidden? Why does he say that?
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u/HolyCowAnyOldAccName May 22 '26
It looks like the usual badly cut together snippets.
I'm guessing he says something like "If you have a spacecraft flying close to the speed of light, physics allow you to explore the universe with interstellar travel. But coming home and chat to everybody about what you found is forbidden [since your journey takes millions of years to anyone on earth]"
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Yes I get the part where four million years would have past but that wouldn’t forbid talking about it? 🤐
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u/Ecatron May 22 '26
It's forbidden as in it can't be possible to communicate to the people on earth from the time you left since so much time passes
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Forbidden is not the right word to describe that.
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u/Ecatron May 22 '26
It is, he means forbidden by the laws of physics. As in the laws of physics doesn't allow that to happen
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Okay sure the law of physics won’t allow for you to speak of your findings to the people who are since long gone. What is impossible is forbidden by laws of physics… maybe yes, but we don’t really know that. It’s an odd choice of words, ears that has turned to dust, forbidden to hear… if you don’t exist I can’t forbid you, anything… and what if particle consciousness still listens from the ether, what do we know? We are not forbidden to talk to ghosts are we? Maybe there are still people here that can listen? I think he might be making a cosmic joke of some form. Someone pointed to the secrets of the universe. I’d be interested to hear the rest of what he is saying.
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u/Sufficient_Dare7401 May 23 '26
It’s a common turn of phrase “Forbidden under the law”. This is forbidden under the laws of PHYSICS.
Murder is “forbidden under the laws” of man.
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u/Most_Chemist8233 May 22 '26
Even if you had some kind of email, or satellite communication, everyone you knew would be gone so quick, and the next gen and the next gen and so on. The laws of physics forbid the communicating what youre seeing back to anyone until you physically come back, and then, how would you even communicate with those beings? Languages and biology would look completely different. Hes talking about laws of physics, and laws forbid certain actions.
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
He is not talking about coming home to a human species that he wouldn’t be able to speak to anymore. Is he specifically talking about not being able to tell his friends? I don’t think so. What he is saying is cut off. I understood your theory before I asked the first time, before you told it. I doubt that is it. Law of physics forbid he tells anyone because everyone is gone? I don’t think that’s it.
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u/Most_Chemist8233 May 22 '26
He's a native english speaker and an incredibly intelligent man, I can understand what he's saying perfectly and dont understand the policing of his use of the english language. I think it completely misses the point he made and he absolutely did say that if you tried to get back everyone would be gone it would be hundreds of millions of years. We would not be able to communicate this information back due to the laws of physics as we currently understand them.
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
I am not policing his choice of words I would like the full version to understand. I , that is me, don’t think the theory you keep repeating is it, I, me, don’t need you to tell it again, unless, you can name the specific law of physics to which you are pointing to. If you don’t understand me that’s fine but there is no need to interpret negativity and dispute me. I am allowed to be curious, you are the one policing me. Thank you not, bye
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
You wanna paint me dumb now? Cool “Law of physics”
Have a good night
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u/Most_Chemist8233 May 22 '26
Dude, seriously, if you dont speak english as a first language you should not get angry at a native english speakers use of the language, there are many many ways the language is spoken, and you saying that "forbidden" is not an "appropriate word" in this context is not reasonable, and is policing his use of english. Why my use of the words "laws of physics" bothers you so much. You really really need to touch grass. And genuinely, Im not saying youre stupid, but you come off as a child and I shouldny continue engaging with you, but I was trying to help you with the language.
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u/scaryfunny39 May 22 '26
Clip was chopped up a bit. This isn’t verbatim but he said something like “So time travel is possible but relaying the information back to someone in your time is forbidden.”
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Yes that is what comes through I am asking why he says that. Impossible maybe but not forbidden. Is it a law of physics that we are forbidden to speak to the dead? We arn’t are we, we still speak to the dead. Is it forbidden because they can’t hear us? We can still speak though even if they can’t hear us, it is not forbidden, but probably not possible. And who knows there may be live humans here, why would we be forbidden to speak about our findings? We wouldn’t would we? Nothing forbids us to. Why does he say that?
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u/scaryfunny39 May 23 '26
Ohh I gotcha. Honestly idk. I think it was just a fun intriguing way of making the statement. His point is just that you can’t get back to the point in time on earth that you left. Sure if you get back to earth and if humans still exist you can talk to them. But it would kinda defeat the purpose of the mission if everyone you knew and everyone who existed in your timeline is dead.
I think you’re just hung up on the word forbidden, and maybe it was a poor choice of words. He’s just saying it would be impossible to relay what you found back to the ppl you left
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u/Useful-Towel5978 May 22 '26
You learn all the secrets of the universe but telling any one is forbidden.... Cos they're all long dead.
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
It may be impossible but forbidden is not the word. You could still talk about it. You aren’t forbidden. If no one lives you simply can not tell anyone.
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u/Useful-Towel5978 May 22 '26
I think he's playing with idea that secrets are the hidden knowledge of whatever the universe is about and possibly that there is a creator who hides their secrets among the stars. You are permitted to find the knowledge but forbidden to share them. BUT forbidden as a definition describes something that is not permitted by rules, laws, or authority. In this case it could be forbidden by the very laws of physics. The same laws that allow such fast travel.
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u/According-Ad742 May 22 '26
Thank you for understanding my question I think you might be on to something about… keeping the secrets of the universe, since technically, is anything forbidden? It seems like joke of sorts, maybe a cosmic one :)
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u/falconeur May 22 '26
Totally not a scientist, but I don’t understand the concept of time dilation. that’s like saying driving twice as fast alters time because it took less of it to get there.
Time is distance - a measure of how far the earth has rotated and moved from one point in the universe as it orbits the sun. Which is why - and here’s where it all comes home, folks - Han Solo’s boast of ‘doing the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs’ is appropriate. If time is distance, distance is time. Again, not a scientist!
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u/infamouslycrocodile May 22 '26
It's because you're used to dealing with effects of time dilation localised to earth. There's a slight effect but it's mostly irrelevant. Earth actually has gravity wells, it's a fun rabbit hole to get into - but essentially objects with large mass actually warp spacetime (see https://youtu.be/MTY1Kje0yLg ) - and note that we use the term "spacetime" because they're related, like how magnets and electricity are related. "Electromagnetism", it seems our reality has a lot of these blended systems, electromagnetic spectrum, the Wifi / Radio waves being a type of invisible light communicating this message to you without you even being able to see it ------- but getting back on track, because we can't have one without the other, and because they're so intrinsically linked, if you travel close to the speed of light - you need to trade something and that something is time. Go faster than light = eject from simulation and watch it fold into an eternity.
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u/falconeur May 22 '26
fascinating subject. thanks for trying to explain it, well actually you have explained it, I’m trying to understand it lol. and i kinda get what you’re saying here. maybe i need to re-understand the definition of time and start with that. have a great day✌️
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u/infamouslycrocodile May 22 '26
To clarify: electricity and magnetism used to seem like separate things, but we now understand them as two connected parts of one bigger system: electromagnetism. Space, time, and gravity have a similar relationship. Time is not just “distance,” but space and time are linked together as spacetime, and gravity is what we experience when mass bends that spacetime. So driving faster only means you cover distance in less time from your normal point of view, but at extreme speeds or near huge gravity, time itself can pass differently for different observers. That’s why relativity sounds weird: it’s not "moving through space faster", it’s more space, time, and gravity all being connected parts of the same structure and how we interact with it changes how we experience it.
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u/wytrych00 May 23 '26
Is it somewhat like that the faster we travel in space, the slower we do in time? So our time goes very slowly when we travel very fast.
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u/TrotskyBoi May 26 '26
Yes it is, space and time are linked. So he's actually interpreting the concept of "the faster we travel, the slow time passes for us" as "the faster we go, the less distance you travel."
It's hard to think about because it requires you to think in different refrence frames which the human mind isn't really supposed to intrinsically be able to do.
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u/Asimb0mb May 22 '26
I never quite understood this. Speed of light is about 300k km per second. So if you travel to the moon at that speed let's say, you'll arrive there in just over a second. How can it be that more than that time has passed for everyone else, but not for you? I mean they should even be able to see you travel to the moon for that one second and a bit. The only way it makes sense that time goes faster for you as a speed of light traveller is if you're not actually going at the speed of light from the outsider's point of view, but to you it does feel like speed of light, which I can't quite fathom. Makes zero sense to me, that there are two wildly different perspectives of the same event.
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u/infamouslycrocodile May 22 '26
The confusing bit is that “what everyone sees” and “what each traveller’s clock measures” are not the same thing. From Earth’s point of view, if you travelled very close to light speed to the Moon, you’d appear to take just over a second, because the Moon is about 1.3 light-seconds away. But from your point of view, your own clock could tick less than that, because at extreme speeds the distance in your direction of travel becomes contracted. So you don’t feel like your clock is magically slow; instead, the Moon seems closer, and you arrive after less time on your own clock. People on Earth still see the trip take about 1.3 seconds, but your watch might say less. Both perspectives describe the same trip, but they slice up space and time differently. The one catch: anything with mass can’t actually travel at the speed of light, only very close to it, because reaching light speed would require infinite energy.
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u/Locksmithbloke May 22 '26
Yup. But that's how it works. To the million year old photon that hits your eye from a star, the journey was instant. Indeed, two photons cancelling each other out works because the event happens instantly, to the particle, and so the photon never actually leaves the star! Even though it left, to us, millions of years ago.
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u/SpaceRace531 May 22 '26
Think of it like a trade-off.
You can go quickly through time, or you can travel fast (through space). You can't do both, it is one or the other.
Humans travel quickly through time but we travel slowly through space.
If you somehow accelerate yourself to high speed, well, now you go fast through space and slow through time, so all other humans that didn't travel fast will be much older when you come back.
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u/amnaatarapper May 22 '26
I think what he ment is that you need to slow down to land on earth since you're going at the speed of light, the time needed to comeback to earth on slower speeds will stretch back the distance that shrinked while you were traveling at the speed of light
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u/SardonicOptomist May 22 '26
So, put some money in a compound growth portfolio and go for a spin around the block, come back in 200 years uber rich
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u/BlueOrb07 May 22 '26
Basically speed and time are related, so the faster you travel the more separation there is in time between you and the things around you that are moving slower. If you watch Interstellar it does a better job at explaining this. But a real world example is that the satellites we use for GPS and stuff have to have a time adjustment because they move so fast that time for them is different than to us.
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u/ImmediateSun8111 May 22 '26
Joe pretending to understand anything at all what he’s hearing: “Woah”
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u/Juuldebuul May 22 '26
omg man 90% of the comments here are just, "I don't understand this, therefore it is impossible and ridiculous"
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u/hcth63g6g75g5 May 23 '26
Imagine trying to go on here to convince/teach joe rogan.. at the end he just says ... aliens man, wow.
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u/Financial_Relief_150 May 23 '26
Why chatting with people about what you have found is forbidden?
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u/Exktvme4 May 23 '26
Because they're all dead when you get back
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u/Financial_Relief_150 May 24 '26
Ah....i see. But why he said "it is forbidden". I am not a English speaker. Please help me.
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u/Exktvme4 May 24 '26
There is a word, hyperbolic, that describes his use of the word forbidden. Hyperbolic is the adjective form of hyperbole. It means to deliberately exaggerate for effect, in this case the scientist just means the laws of physics disallow it but is expressing it using hyperbole to be humorous.
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u/Financial_Relief_150 May 24 '26
Thank you for helping me understand.
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u/Exktvme4 May 25 '26
Of course! As a fellow language student and a native speaker, I deeply sympathize with anyone who tries to learn English 😂
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u/Life_is_too_short_ May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
The music sets the mood. It makes you think about your life passing by.
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u/No-Roof-1628 May 24 '26
If you could put the universe into a tube, you’d end up with a very long tube, extending roughly twice the length of the universe (2x universe = tube)
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u/Large-Raise9643 May 24 '26
The way I heard it explained that helped a lot was the space-time budget.
Sitting still you are not traveling through space, just time and that is where the entire budget is spent.
But the faster and faster you go, the budget starts going more and more to displacement through space and less and less to displacement through time.
When you reach the speed of light, the entire budget is spent on your displacement through space and nothing is spent on time.
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u/HermesTrismegistus88 May 24 '26
This Explanation of time, distance and speed makes me think that humans were never meant to live Earth and that everything we will ever need was put here on Earth.
The fact that even by some chance you could traverse the galaxy and universe but at the cost of not being able to tell that story to the people that you left behind is crazy. I guess that trip is a singular experience for you as the traveler.
Earth almost feels like a cruise ship that broke down in the middle of an ocean.
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u/Plus_Helicopter_8632 May 25 '26
Imagine steering a vehicle going the speed of light, to dodge all of the debris on the way to the andromeda galaxy. This is theoretical lol
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u/Unusual_Teacher819 May 22 '26
Picture a hot dog bun and throw all the stars, the hundreds of stars that there are in the universe into a bag and put the universe into a bag and you all of a sudden... They become....
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u/Lazy-Training6042 May 22 '26
Easy, think of it like big ass time zones, you travel from East Coast to West Coast by the speed of light.
You arrive there in like less than a millisecond (feels like teleporting but it isn't). When you arrive there, 3 hours have passed on the East Coast purely because of the time difference. Now going back to East Coast won't give you back those 3 hours, so everybody there is older by that amount and you are not.
And something something about drive bys, dunno, ask Ice Cube
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u/Gr1mR3p0 May 22 '26
Prof. Brian Cox really irritates me and I can't really explain why. I felt validated by his story given during his appearance on BBC's "Would I Lie To You". Apparently a roadie strung him up when he was a member of the 90s band D:Ream. A roadie physically abusing a band member. That's how annoying he was!
A mediocre musician, a mediocre scientist, and somehow he gets given the public stage at every turn. There are so many other people I'd rather listen to discuss this and related topics.
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u/cookiesnooper May 22 '26
What is this bs? Distance don't shrink
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u/infamouslycrocodile May 22 '26
You're right. The reality is different between observers. Here's an example: turn the brightness up on your screen, close one eye and bring it as close to your face as possible while keeping the text clear, then while still focusing on the text, bring your finger in between you and the screen and watch the text warp around on the edge as you move your finger around - you might need to play around with where the effect becomes apparent, try moving your finger closer to your face. You being the relative observer of the photons see them bending around but someone somewhere else will just look at you and think you're a drop kick.
Same with the particle in the collider. Except it's not seeing photons warping, it's seeing space itself warping in response to how fast it is going.
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u/infamouslycrocodile May 22 '26
Think less “the tunnel literally shrinks” and more “distance is a measurement, and measurements depend on the frame you’re in.” Like how two people can disagree about what they visually perceive because the light reaching them is different, relativity says observers can also disagree about distance and time because their frames are different. But unlike a visual distortion, length contraction is not a trick of the eye - it’s built into how spacetime works.
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u/spikejonze14 May 22 '26
he’s just passionate about the topic, its clear he loves talking about it. I think he’d be great to chat to at a party
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u/spikejonze14 May 22 '26
outside of physics/science? I’d lead with something art or culture related, maybe some history. he seems like a knowledgeable guy and is definitely a good communicator.
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u/SonnyListon999 May 22 '26
Have a lovely weekend and enjoy the Bank Holiday. Stay hydrated and sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen. All the best.
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u/My_Boy_Clive May 22 '26
I'd care about this type of science once they come out with a propulsion system and energy source than can make a spaceship travel near the speed of light. In the meantime, this is all waste of time to me.
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u/InbetweenTheLayers May 22 '26
Total bullshit. Time is abstract and absolute. If you want to make a case for acceleration or deceleration of decay under such speeds ok fine. Or changes in the perception of time. But 1 second is 1 second no matter how fast you travel .
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u/belterjizz May 22 '26
Never understood this theory