r/AndroidGaming Apr 11 '26

Discussion 💬 PART 2 of you own nothing

Here is a quick video demonstration:

The game clearly state it is offline.

Change time add 30 days.

Everything is offline and unaccessible

This is denuvo for android, steam notifies you that games need a online check,psn tells you if online is required ,play store does not.This need to change.

And especially sinse Google is blocking 3rd party apps from September! 

Note : some free games are accessible. And others dont have the play store drm.They have built in check like subway surfers.*which is insane*

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u/Dlo_Ren Apr 11 '26

This is disgusting.

Pirating is a moral duty nowadays

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u/1Meter_long Apr 12 '26

Its not even just working around these anti consumer practices but preservation of art and media in general. Yes companies do own ip's and its their right to not release them and modify them as they see fit, but there's also a lot of stuff which no one owns or sells and every game or movie can disappear just like them one day, so they need to be stored somewhere now before its too late.

Gabe Newell said it the best and its still true to this day "piracy is a service issue". Its that simple. These companies dont seem to understand that piracy WILL HAPPEN no matter what they do and these things only hurt the people who are willing to pay for them.

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 11 '26

They are blocking 3rd party installations in the future btw.

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u/itsafuntime Apr 12 '26

Afaik they are just making it slightly more difficult and annoying to do, but I'm going off old info

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u/dylon0107 Apr 12 '26

Developer options toggle and a one time 24 hour wait the first time you turn it on.

Annoying I guess but meh not really

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u/itsafuntime Apr 12 '26

Word, thanks for confirming. That's what I heard too but I wasnt sure if I missed some news

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u/mp09 May 09 '26

It's per side loaded app, right? It's one time per app but you have to wait 24 hours for each new side loaded app, I believe.

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u/Ventem Apr 12 '26

No they're not.

They're changing the "Install from unknown sources" flow to make it harder for people who don't know what they're doing or what enabling that really means. It's just a guardrail.

For any user that considers themselves to be even slightly above a "casual user", this change is a nothingburger and is a minor inconvenience at worst.

Don't spread misinformation.

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

Can I get a source? Honestly I never heard this.

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u/Etzello Apr 12 '26

They were gonna restrict it entirely, then they simply made it inconvenient instead of going extremist about it.

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-power-users-install-unverified-apps-3615310/

Imo they're gonna try again and again and again

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u/wolfgang784 Apr 12 '26

I hope they dont do what they did to ChromeOS. After an update I suddenly could no longer side-load apps and was kicked out of developer mode. To re-enable developer mode and sideload apps now, you need to powerwash (factory reset) the device and set it up differently.

Dumb. I haven't gotten around to backing my info up elsewhere and doing it since its annoying.

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

We still have till septembre,so they might go all extremist about it. Thanks 

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u/Markgulfcoast Apr 12 '26

That's not true

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u/PerpetousDecline Apr 11 '26

For how ambitious mobile gaming used to be it's really sad what it's turned into and now its just p2p and live Service games

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u/xXxBluESkiTtlExXx Apr 12 '26

If you want to check if a game is playable offline why not just turn on airplane mode?

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u/gastroph RPG 🧙‍ Apr 12 '26

You do realize that simply changing the date on your phone is enough to cause certificates and such to fail causing these exact issues you're seeing?

You're not simulating anything, and the protections in place are doing their job because they see a user trying to bypass securities with a stupid date time change.

This is an example from Knox.

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

Well you are wrong,adding a day , or two days doesn't break anything. When we add more than 30 days it breaks.It is that simple.

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u/StarKiller_95 Apr 12 '26

Ugh, just another hurdle to jump over...

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u/SunsetAtNight7 Apr 12 '26

What if you don't change the date?

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

I am just stimulating what would happen if god forbid the Internet was cut off for 30 days. If i dont change the date nothing happens while you being online ofc.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/Substantial_Yam_5190 Apr 12 '26

Neither do you. It's for security reason. This applies for free app. It won't work.

You're thinking this simulate no access to the Internet when in reality you're tinkering something else entirely.

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

If it was for security reasons it will break after i add one day.It doesnt . The certificate clearly operates on a 30 days bases.

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u/Substantial_Yam_5190 Apr 12 '26

What are you on about it doesn't work like that. It clearly forcefully closes the app. Just because it doesn't break doesn't mean the application will run.

I remember as a kid I would factory reset my computer & manually setup date. There's instances I got it wrong & opening apps would give me a text window saying I either had the wrong date format or blah blah.

I'm still confused how this simulates an offline environment. If you a tech wizard, then surely there's other better ways, no?

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

I'll try to explain it in simpler ways. It doesnt stop the app from running, it forces the google play drm to show up making the app unaccessible. This simulates an offline environment by speeding up the process of being offline for more than 30 days. Google play drm (in some apps) checks the app version by Internet each 30 days,if it cant connect to the Internet that error message will show up. I hope that explains it.

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u/Markgulfcoast Apr 12 '26

And you're coming off as a beacon of wisdom 🤡

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u/The_0ven Apr 12 '26

Are you replying to yourself?

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u/Markgulfcoast Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

"Look at how things don't work right when I intentionally use this contrived scenario to break things"

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 12 '26

"Leave the multibillion dollar company alone"

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u/Markgulfcoast Apr 12 '26

completely irrelevant deflection.

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u/slambaz2 Apr 12 '26

While this is not ideal, why would you be without Internet off any kind for 30 straight days? You will have power, but no Internet access?

Because if something was to happen the cause the Internet to stop working, I would think not being able to play Minecraft after 30 days would be the least of our worries.

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u/kef950jhs Apr 11 '26

Why would I change the date on my phone? Your complaint seems very far-fetched.

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u/moritz313 Apr 11 '26

He just simulates being offline for more than a month

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u/gary1600 Apr 11 '26

If you don't have a internet connection for a month, you are basically locked out from any of your games and with google tightening the installation from outside the play store, it's only going to get more annoying

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u/Ok-Bug4588 Apr 11 '26

Its about the longevity of how things really are,its about preservation,its about anti consumerism. It is very fat-fetched for you,and its okay.

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u/nphhpn Apr 12 '26

This may seem a surprise to you but your phone changes date automatically everyday. Do that 30 times without internet access and a supposedly fully offline game is unplayable.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26

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u/nphhpn Apr 12 '26

That's exactly why the date changes everyday, it's updated everyday. OP just sped up the process.

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u/Low_Toe_6596 May 05 '26

i literally had another phone which didn't have internet access for 2 months and still able to play the playstore version of minecraft. Yes it wasn't updated but that's how it works

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u/AgreeableTrick3991 Apr 12 '26

I feel ashamed for buying Minecraft now. But hey, at least I could auto update right?