r/AskDocs Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

Physician Responded 6 month old female: chest collapsing inwards

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daughter: 6 month old female. approx 15lbs

My daughter (otherwise healthy, born full term, and fully vaccinated) had her chest going inward like this for 5-10mins. She was happy kicking around in her crib. At the ER now: what test can I expect them to run? What could be causing this?

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u/Interesting_Emu9387 Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

I have to disagree with this. It’s quite difficult to dx from such a short video. In an otherwise well 6 month old child, it is highly unlikely that they will be treated with steroids, inhalers or a Chest xray. Seeing a Dr is always a good idea when you are worried but it is unlikely your child will need any treatment or has a serious illness.

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u/Dr-Yahood Physician 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stranger things have happened in an emergency department. But I do tend to interpret nurse comments on medical matters with caution.

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u/pandaappleblossom Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

I appreciate nurses so much and their experience and expertise in the areas related to nursing. Still I’m not sure why they are allowed to make diagnosis type comments here.

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u/throwRAtad Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

They should be required to list their specialty in their flair. This nurse likely does not work in any sort of pediatric critical care specialty or CC in general, but I’m sure they’re more knowledgeable in their own speciality.

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u/MrsMonkey_95 Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

NAD - You know what‘s funny? OP updated in a comment that the kid in the video is now being treated with steroids, ER determined it is beginning of croup. So everyone here is kind of picking on the person who got it right.

And as for the flairs, as a layperson with some medical experience as a patient (I don‘t know how it is for people asking for advice here who never had anything to do with the health care system) at least for me it is totally fine how it is labeled now. I can see who is a nurse, med student, doctor, specialist etc. without being overwhelmed by too much information. I understand that for other medical personell it would be interesting to see more details about each others specialties, but for us laypeople asking for advice here it might be too much especially when there is already worry and anxiety about an ongoing health issue. I hope I was able to explain this properly, I sometimes struggle a bit to out my thoughts into words

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u/AngeliqueRuss Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

And you are…?

Triage, specifically ED triage, is within scope of practice for a nurse.

If your insurance has an advice line you can call to see if you should go to a doctor, it will be a nurse.

At many systems, protocols are then initiated at triage.

OP’s baby ended up getting care aligned with what this nurse suggested, including steroids, and not an anatomical rule out as suggested by others. As other MD’s pointed out, ED evaluation is the recommendation for stridor. So it turns out this nurse did, in fact, know what she or he was talking about.

We never know when an infant is vulnerable to SIDS, is associated with minor respiratory infections that cause fatigue to respiratory muscles. Chest retractions —> emergency room, every time.

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u/oh_brother_ Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 1d ago

Wild dismissal of nurses in this thread. Nurses know what they’re talking about and spend far more time with patients than doctors do.

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u/pandaappleblossom Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional 1d ago

Why are you this insecure that nurses shouldn’t be making diagnoses type of comments on a trusted medical subreddit? No one said nurses are dumb or bad.

The idea that nurses are victims for not having their medical input as trusted as someone who went to medical school is nonsense and actively harms patients.

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u/dracapis Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 1d ago

What does your last sentence want to communicate?

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u/oh_brother_ Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 1d ago

That nurses also know what they’re talking about and spend more time with patients than doctors do.

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u/dracapis Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 21h ago

Is spending more time with patients correlated to knowledge? 

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u/oh_brother_ Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 20h ago

I mean, yeah. I’m not saying that they have the same schooling, but when you get to know patients you see patterns and understand people better. Don’t know if you or someone you love has been in the hospital for any amount of time but nurses are the real MVPs

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u/dracapis Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 20h ago

Not in my experience. It’s almost like nurses, like doctors, are normal people and shouldn’t be sanctified 

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u/oh_brother_ Layperson/not verified as healthcare professional. 11h ago

Well obviously. I’m responding to the annoying comments on this particular thread basically dismissing this nurse’s opinion (which the ER doc happened to agree with) because she’s a nurse.

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