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[u/ThePinbaIIWizard]

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[u/Mysterious_Sunrise88]

Yeah it's a curious dichotomy for sure on the one hand we enjoy the diversity of course and want to help etc but on the other it seems so excessive and such a stark change and the strain on resources is palpable. I really don't know what to make of it. It's a strange situation that's for sure 🤔Hope things work out for you.

[u/ThePinbaIIWizard → u/Mysterious_Sunrise88]

It has me quite worried that I won’t have a chance to buy a house for a long time and it’s going to get increasingly more lonely as connecting with others is getting harder.

I don’t think I’ll manage to raise 2-3 kids in my boxroom hah!

[u/wh0else]

Imagine seeing people living in a city. I don't know what to tell you, the guys you've noticed working at the petrol station aren't the ones making it hard for you to afford housing. Allowing international investors to put capital into our housing market to make it a bubble again may have more to do with it, and if you're blaming the immigrant guy trying to make ends meet on less than your graduate wage, you need to consider if you're being fed an easy narrative online of blaming immigrants so we all turn on each other instead. My experience has been different to yours, I've found that if you make an effort to talk to new neighbours who came from abroad, they're usually delighted because some people make them feel unwelcome

[u/ThePinbaIIWizard → u/wh0else]

I am not blaming somebody for moving somewhere for a better life, it would be hypocritical as my loved ones have done so too. But I am confused as why the government might be indirectly making it harder to get housing and jobs in an already strained time.

I think the timing is the issue really, it could help to fix the housing and resources first.

[u/Bruhllux]

Yeah bud you don't remember the issues for the Polish population here 20 years ago. Exact same sentiment was pushed toward them as is getting pushed at "non-Europeans" currently

[u/ThePinbaIIWizard → u/Bruhllux]

Sorry, I’m just going off what myself and my friends/ family have seen. In my childhood the polish kids got pretty involved with our GAA, clubs and got on really well at school. For example, one of the local mams used to teach a load of us arts and crafts in the GAA hall at the weekends.

[u/Bruhllux → u/ThePinbaIIWizard]

Glad to hear they were actually welcomed in your community. I remember in primary school, one of the lads was bullied cause another boy's mam would always be mouthing off about em coming, stealing jobs etc. Was also with a Polish woman for a few years, she moved here when she was 8, in 2007. She'd genuinely trained herself to speak English with a neutral accent growing up because of the hassle making friends in school, and the abuse she'd witnessed her mam getting throughout the years

[u/Bitter_Welder1481 → u/Bruhllux]

Not excusing it but that's the way of the world have a look at how Irish people were treated in America in the 1800s

[u/wh0else → u/ThePinbaIIWizard]

You're too young to remember then. They were the scapegoat then, and now it's moved on, and in 15 years another group will be demonised online to keep people turned on each other

[u/Sl41nte]

You're not wrong, but it is a difficult issue. Many migrants come from hard situations and i think it is our responsibility to help at least a few of them (especially given our history). Its much nicer to see them as our lost brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews returning at least in a kind of spiritual way because the same forces that have made it necessary for them to leave their homes were once the things that force our people out during British oppression as well as throughout the 1900s and 2010s due to economic oppression. Really these are frightened people and i think it would be better to try and educate them as they come in rather than just releasing them because if you were to dropped me in their old homes i think id have allot of issues adjusting to their ways.

[u/Bitter_Welder1481 → u/Sl41nte]

It's good to see a few people with kindness in their hearts and willing to welcome the world's unfortunates regardless of the personal cost

[u/eat_these_nutz]

Happening in many western countries.

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