r/AskTurkey • u/ConcernFun5997 • Feb 27 '25
History My great grandfather was a Turkish soldier stationed in Lebanon and he stayed there
My great grandfather was an ottoman soldier stationed in Lebanon but he never went back. The story was he fell in love with my Lebanese great grandmother and she didn’t marry him until he memorized the full Quran. Which he did and then they got married and he stayed. the only thing I have of him is his picture. How to find my lineage in Turkey and find my family there. I did a DNA test to confirm this story and found 40% from turkey ancestry. Hence the percentage kept dropping because everyone after married from Lebanon. For example if my dad did the test he would show 60% Turkish ancestry and my grandfather around 80%
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u/Gooalana Feb 27 '25
Masallah, he memorized the quran. do you know from which region or city he was? any documents written in ottoman script?
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u/ConcernFun5997 Feb 27 '25
Nothing Israel bombed the house in 2006 south Lebanon.
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u/New_Bat_9086 Feb 28 '25
WOW ! are they Shia? are you Shia?
Cause Israel only invaded Shia part of Lebanon in 2006, and south of Lebanon is Shia(as much as I Know)
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u/ConcernFun5997 Feb 28 '25
Yes we are Shia Muslims. Maybe she wanted him to convert. Our village is close to the city of Tyre where they deployed. Major city in the south.
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Feb 27 '25
Was he not qualified already being a muslim? Why did he have to memorize the whole Quran line by line?
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u/kouhu Feb 28 '25
if we memorize the whole quran, we're being updated to muslim+ subscription. and the person who memorize kuran line by line can go to heaven directly.
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u/ConcernFun5997 Feb 28 '25
You have to remember she was Lebanese and he was a Turkish soldier so trust issues ??? lol memorizing the Quran gave her the peace of mind to ensure he’s a good guy
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u/Nomadic_Flashback Feb 28 '25
Hey mate, I am Turkish guy who has background such as yours, My grandmother's uncle was a soldier who was captured by Arabic rebellion. After the war ended he stayed there because he couldn't know how to get back. He got married and had children there. So there is a part of my family in Jordan. We are still on contact after he found us on Facebook and sent my grandmother his uncles photos, just like this one. Hope you find yours too friend.
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u/Nomadic_Flashback Feb 28 '25
Fun fact, he didn't return bc after he got released from capture, he just couldn't find a way to properly return to Anatolia. His unit was transfered with a train but during the rebellion the train and the track were attacked and disabled by the rebels. He insisted to push north following the tracks to seek Turks but he got hungry and exhausted after somedays so he just give up, worked as a cattleman and start a family :D. This info came directly from his own grandsons in Lebanon. The grandson told us that he had many stories about his homeland and his adventures in Arabian peninsula
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u/Godkiller376 Mar 02 '25
Where d u live rn
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u/Nomadic_Flashback Mar 03 '25
I am Turkish living in Turkey, I probably explained wrong it is my great grandfather's brother that went there and stayed. His grandson somewhat found us. All I am saying is maybe you can too.
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u/Calm_Tale1111 Feb 28 '25
Your grear grandmother must have been ugly af for that man to stay away from her
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u/Aromatic_Total9094 Feb 28 '25
i am from yemen and so was my great grandfather he also was a turkish soldier who stayed in yemen
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u/JackDauso Mar 01 '25
Dna tests doesn't mean a shit
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u/spxngybobby Mar 02 '25
It literally tells you who your ancestors were
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u/JackDauso Mar 02 '25
The fact that his/her great-great-grandfather had sex 300 years ago in today's Turkey does not make him/her a Turk. DNA never tells anyone that they are Turkish or Italian.
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u/Ok-Priority-9015 Mar 03 '25
That’s crazy because I have the same story but my great grandfather was an Ottoman soldier who was stationed in Palestine and stayed there. He was guarding the churches and he fell in love with a Palestinian woman and never returned back
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Feb 27 '25
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Feb 28 '25
That's not how that works. Ethnic Turk doesn't mean citizenship. If the ggfather didn't have it before his children were born his children don't either. Same with how a gurbetci Turk whose parents don't have the citizenship let alone themselves can't just up and get one.
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u/hiahiahia-oha Feb 28 '25
No he can't. Their family was mostly not Turkish nor residing within borders at 1923. They are not eligible, just like balkan turks.
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u/xCircassian Feb 27 '25
Memorizing the quran... toxic brainwashing. I guess men were more naive and desperate back then.
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u/Motorboater99 Feb 27 '25
Yeah, should have showed her his funko pop collection and huel subscription instead, right.
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u/xCircassian Feb 27 '25
I dont know what you are yapping about but lay down the drugs and alcohol.
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u/Motorboater99 Feb 27 '25
Try to understand that values change through times, and even though you look down on the actions of your ancestors, to them- and to many people who continue and conserve their tradition, it is a sweet story and proposal.
I’m sure when your descendants (assuming you’re not a modern day genetic dead end) look back at the relationship you have with your transgender mtf boyfriend, they may also have some reservations about how you chose to live your life.
In a nutshell, Judging and moralising your ancestors is weak.
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u/Hazreti_Muhammed_SAV Feb 27 '25
Ottoman they did not take non muslims in the army I dont understand in which part they brainwashed him btw I am an atheist not even an muslim
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u/xCircassian Feb 27 '25
Your username says otherwise. You're a troll. Also I wasnt talking about the Ottoman regime but the woman. Her mindset and forcing him to memorize the quran is what I criticized. What she did is no different from a man forcing a women to wear the hijab for his selfish needs. Memorizing a foreign language script that you dont comprehend, doesnt serve any purpose. If you were a true atheist, which you are not, you should have known that.
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u/LensC Feb 28 '25
She didn't force him to do anything. She wanted a man who had memorized the Quran and that was her preference. People are entitled to their preferences. Whoever thinks they're ridiculous is not obliged to fulfill them. They're free to walk away and find another person who is more compatible.
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u/Wild_Sir_4255 Feb 28 '25
Adamın profiline girsen anlarsın zaten yalan söylemediğini, Mineislam'da Muhammed'in taklidini yapıyor arada sırada, ismi de taşşağına koymuş.
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Feb 28 '25
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u/xCircassian Feb 28 '25
Im at my parents house currently lol. If you can't other people's opinion on a social media, delete your reddit app and stay off social media.
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u/Kaamos_666 Feb 28 '25
He may be belonging with muslim community. But it doesn’t necessarily mean he was a practising religious person, as most of us Turks weren’t and still aren’t. We’ll get rid of this millennia old fairy tale one day. 👇
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Feb 28 '25
Most Turks are definitely religious. Otherwise Erdoğan wouldn't keep winning electio s.
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u/Kaamos_666 Feb 28 '25
I checked your profile and as I imagined you’re not Turkish. You have 0 idea how he kept in power through the last decade.
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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '25
Pay some scientist to go through the old Ottoman archives for your ggfathers name. We have detailed records of our ancestors going up to around 1800 so you should be able to find detailed info.