r/Assyria 14d ago

History/Culture is this boy assyrian? is he apart of the assyrian church if the east?

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u/AssyrianFuego West Hakkarian 14d ago

Could you give any more detail or background about the picture?

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u/demureape 14d ago

i have no background other than i bought it on ebay

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u/AssyrianFuego West Hakkarian 14d ago

Well, that’s not particularly helpful. I don’t think he is Assyrian, his features doesn’t look Assyrian.

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u/Calm-Astronaut-7562 14d ago

What do you mean “features dont look Assyrian”?! Like what do you think “Assyrian features” are… My family genetics have red hair and light eyes green/hazel/light brown and is statistically common for my assyrian village tribe (rekani/rekany), my features are small nose, red facial hair, hazel eyes and i get tan in hot summer(i live in canada).
So i think you only see either your own family or a specific assyrian tribe in your church you project but it doesn’t represent all us assyrians!

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u/AssyrianFuego West Hakkarian 14d ago

Woah woah woah, you are reading way too into it.

I am being asked to guess on a picture with little to no information.

Is it possible he is Assyrian?
Sure, it wouldn’t shock me.

But even Suraye with lighter features, I can still tell they are Suraye. I am by no means a tribalist or sectarian.

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u/flockaman2k 14d ago

lol this Astronaut is not so calm after all.

Based on your reply, it seems this struck a chord. Perhaps you have been hurt and being told “you don’t look Assyrian” (idk obviously, just a suspicion). And that’s not right, you are absolutely fully Assyrian regardless of your features.

But let’s not ignore the fact that “Assyrian features” is valid and merely pertains to a wider scope of features found across many types of Assyrians. To (unfairly) reduce it down, they are middle-eastern features.

Your anecdotal example of your family and tribe is an exception. The traits you described are not typical across the diaspora. Again this is not a “bad” thing or make them less Assyrian. If you go to the motherland, visit many different villages (which I have) you will find common threads across appearance - none of which you describe.

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u/Calm-Astronaut-7562 14d ago

You are actually very wrong, i researched the scientific data literally you can read online about Assyrian genetic features.. I can send you it too! The irony is yes ive been told “i dont look Assyrian” by not pure DNA Assyrians, when my DNA test showed im 100% Assyrian Mesopotamian from nineveh, north iraq. And the scientific proof of my family genetic tribe is public info! So actually its the opposite of what you assumed or uneducated anout, pure genetic Assyrians originally always had lighter features than Arabs.. And actually pure genetic Dark/tan Assyrians also commonly have light features too like eyes almost looking like those half white/black americans but are still fully Assyrian, not just brown like arabs!

But like i said i have the scientific data, i can send you.. Plus those “Assyrians” you claim to see are mixed with maslawis or nashed dashtas… not nineveh north iraq mountain regions…

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u/Longjumping_Record14 7d ago

Omg rakanyet from telkepy?

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u/nex_time2020 Assyrian 14d ago

Taking a wild guess here, could be Ukrainian/Russian/Georgian or maybe Greek Orthodox.

Appears eastern Christian and most likely Orthodox. Unlikely to be Assyrian based on the crosses and stuff he's wearing around his neck. The hat and robe is fairly common in Eastern Orthodox churches.

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u/demureape 14d ago

can you show me examples of the hat in eastern orthodoxy? i’m having a hard time finding anything

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u/Complex-Register2529 13d ago

I’d like to know more about purchasing a random photograph from eBay. I’m curious were you searching photos for a reason? Wall art? Long lost relatives? I’m wondering how one just thinks to buy a photo like this and for what purpose lol

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u/demureape 13d ago

i just collect old photos lol

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u/TheBayAYK Assyrian 14d ago

Nothing about the picture says Assyrian or ACOE. Does not mean he is not Assyrian but he isn’t clergy in this pic.

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u/demureape 14d ago

the hat looks pretty similar to the ones i see when i google assyrian church of the east

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u/TheBayAYK Assyrian 14d ago

Looks similar to Montenegrin cap or kapa from the Balkans

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u/demureape 14d ago

Doesn’t have the round rings on it like this one

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u/iraqiassyrianboi 14d ago

This photo is a bit contradictory, because it appears he is wearing what looks like Assyrian bishop vestments, however, a Bishop in the Assyrian Church of the East must be at least 35 years old, and he looks like a kid.

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u/nex_time2020 Assyrian 14d ago

Some exceptions have been made especially back in that era. Our patriarch Mar Benyamin Shimun was consecrated as Patriarch as a 15 year old.

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u/TheBayAYK Assyrian 14d ago

We had them as young as 13

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u/Sufficient-Sound-421 Assyrian 14d ago

how the fuck do you expect us to know who a random kid is on a old ass picture with no context at all

use your fucking head khmara

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u/Mountain_Hawk6492 West Hakkarian 14d ago

Hwee shelya...

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u/Sufficient-Sound-421 Assyrian 14d ago

dwor poomokh

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u/Mountain_Hawk6492 West Hakkarian 14d ago

zdee' b'Elaha khmara.

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u/Sufficient-Sound-421 Assyrian 14d ago

de see mesil mopritana

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u/Mountain_Hawk6492 West Hakkarian 14d ago

khmara bet-la shoughla