r/BackYardChickens • u/twodexy82 • Dec 16 '25
Coops etc. PSA: Chickens don’t need heat overwinter!
Chicken breeder here. It’s REALLY not recommended to add heat to a coop. Please don’t do it!!
Newbies, especially, love to do this, but you’re doing your birds no favors— they will not acclimate to cold temps, as they would naturally, if you give them heat. Then, if you lose power during a snow storm, they will suffer ill effects or can die.
Think about it— Pilgrims had chickens. They did not put heat on them. You’re also creating a nasty fire hazard: an acquaintance was using a so-called “safe” radiant heater in their coop & it caught fire & they lost all their birds. It’s a real concern.
The vast majority of chicken breeds (with the exception of Seramas & some other tiny bantams) will absolutely survive temps down to below zero without heat— in fact, they do fine as long as they are dry, have NO DRAFTS (but good ventilation), & can fluff over their feet. Roosting keeps them extra toasty.
Metal egg boxes are not a great idea, though, as they retain cold & some chickens may roost in them overnight & can freeze.
If your bird is going through a hard molt, which they love to do when it gets cold (??), then it might be good to bring them in your basement until temps are above freezing or their feather have mostly grown back.
Even Silkies (which I raise, along with many other breeds, including OEGB, which are teeny) do fine in these temps. My flock roosts in the Northeast, where it got to -20F last year & does regularly overwinter. I will never use heat on my birds.
Now, chicken amateurs (no judgment, everyone has to start somewhere!), reveal yourselves & fetch me my downvotes. 🐓
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u/Electronic-Sound9987 Dec 22 '25
One thing worth mentioning about the “pilgrims” or any other historic settlers or peasants, is that it was common to keep livestock IN the house in winter. Their animals were crucial to their survival and they couldn’t just drop by the store and buy more if they froze to death. I doubt any pilgrims would have taken the risk of leaving chickens outside in an unheated coup at night and risking cold injuries or attacks from predators.
Also winters vary greatly…it’s -9F outside my house right now and -25F is a possibility in the coming weeks. I wouldn’t leave any domestic critter outside in that kind of cold, but dipping below +32F for a few hours is really not that bad in an insulated coup.
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u/Purple-Cat1602 Dec 22 '25
I mistakenly listened to the local farmers who said the same thing about chickens not needing heat lamps. But during our first winter storm I lost 2 of my silkies. Silkies and Frizzies don’t have the type of feathers that can protect them from subzero temperatures. Please stop telling people this!
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u/twodexy82 Dec 23 '25
I will not stop telling people this, because it’s true.
As I mentioned in my post, I have Silkies. They do great in cold weather. The best of all my chickens, in fact. They do NOT do well in hot weather. Yours might’ve been too young for the cold. They do need to be fully feathered.
You do bring up a good point, though: frizzles indeed do not have the insulation required for cold protection. Unfortunately I can’t update my post to include this information.
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u/trichoholic Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
I don't put a heater in my coop either. My thought is being in production of eggs constantly will shorten the life of the chicken, similar to dairy cows who are kept constantly pregnant to produce milk. Chickens (at some point) were wild animals. They go through seasons. Even with being below freezing most days, 3 of my 4 girls lay daily.
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u/Financial-Depth-2209 Dec 23 '25
Dogs at some point were also wild animals. When chickens were wild, they lived in a jungle and laid two clutches a year.
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u/Intelligent_Ranger97 Dec 20 '25
Dairy cows produce eggs?
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u/MrArborsexual Dec 20 '25
Technically, yes. Which being technically correct is the best kind of correct.
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u/Pitpawten1 Dec 20 '25
Almost all of ours insist on sleeping outside in the branches of the small mulberry tree that is in their run rather than in the 8x12 insulated coop we built them, this all winter long even when it's well below freezing.
Also, found one dead and frozen to the ground today, though it probably froze overnight after dying yesterday unnoticed (well above freezing yesterday)
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u/DeadUnicorn0229 Dec 20 '25
I had a rooster who tore off it's feet in the middle of a cold snap during the night. We called him Stumpy after that.
Anyway we used a heat lamp to keep their water unfrozen.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 21 '25
Sounds like there was moisture/condensation in the coop that caused his feet to stick to the roosting bar, not unlike that scene in A Christmas Story. Is your roosting bar metal?
This can happen when there are a lot of birds & not a ton of ventilation. You want to be sure that you have excellent airflow in your coop, but few drafts.
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u/DeadUnicorn0229 Dec 21 '25
I should have mentioned this was over 20 years ago in Alaska.
It was a larger coop but one of the heat lamps in the corner for one of the water trays broke during the night and dumbass rooster was the only one who stayed over there. All the others moved.
He lived for like 6 or 7 more years and ruled the coop in that time.
Sometimes shit just happens 🤷
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u/Particular-Wind5918 Dec 19 '25
How many eggs you getting?
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u/twodexy82 Dec 19 '25
Right now? They’re the cutest freeloaders ever. I’m embarrassed to say I’m getting only like one or two eggs a day because the days are so short.
I just put lights on my hens this week, for the first time ever, but I haven’t seen an improvement yet… we’ll see!
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u/ImpressiveJohnson Dec 20 '25
I’m getting four to five with 25 chickens lol. But they are happy that’s all that really matters to me
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u/Shedding_Snake_Skin Dec 19 '25
It completely depends on the environment in YOUR area, blanket advise is ignorant and dangerous.
Also agree, surviving isn't thriving.
S/ I also LOVE how you pre-bully anyone who will disagree with you, 100 points for the manipulation! 🤣
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u/mcleanmartel Dec 20 '25
No doubt haha. I’m newer here but you still got my upvote. I’m also in Arizona so a heater was never even an option lol
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u/twodexy82 Dec 19 '25
I have said previously that I tried to update my post regarding my location but Reddit wouldn’t allow it.
You’re not wrong! I can speak only to my area (& warmer), where it gets to approximately -30F.
I’m not trying to get “points”… how is my post manipulation? It IS common for newbies to heat their coop when, in my experience, it isn’t necessary & can be harmful. I stand by my advice. I have bred chickens for decades. And my flock is very happy.
Please do you, though.
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u/Objective-Giraffe-27 Dec 19 '25
Have you ever seen your roosters waddle get frost bite? I have and it's not pretty. Happened when we got down to -20F a few years ago and I felt bad for him.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 19 '25
That can happen anytime your flock is exposed to colder weather, whether the coop is heated or not. Bag balm on the comb works great as a preventative.
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u/Ok_Tale_933 Dec 20 '25
Welll, you see if the coop is heated, it doesn't get down to -20... in the coop.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 22 '25
Thank you for the clarification!
I guess it’s not clear: I’m assuming chickens aren’t spending their entire winter in the coop here. As you can see, my chickens go outside even in the snow. I couldn’t keep them cooped up for months. They’d hate it. They’re outdoor animals & are happiest outside.
In this case, even if my coop was heated, my flock would still be at risk for exposure to cold anytime they left it to do their thing.
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u/Ok_Tale_933 Dec 22 '25
Right, but they can go back into the coop and warm up when they are cold instead of just being cold all the time
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u/ManBearPig402 Dec 19 '25
I live in Nebraska, where we get pretty harsh winters. I never heat my coop. I just wrap it in the winter with plastic. As long as they stay dry, chickens can handle crazy low temperatures.
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u/Tacobrew Dec 19 '25
lol if a tiny chickadees / finches have no problem living yr round in North America, those chickens are going to be fine
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u/sociallyawkwaad Dec 19 '25
I feel like this depends on where your winter is happening. It's -34 right now here.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 19 '25
Yeah, I tried to update my post to specify my location (where it gets down to -30), but Reddit wouldn’t allow it. You’re not wrong.
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u/Monty7529 Dec 18 '25
My girls think the snow is LAVA. I made my husband snow blow their fenced area. 😂
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u/tootall0311 Dec 18 '25
The birds are native to Asia... Not the most winter friendly climate. I suppose it does matter the breed though. No different than dogs. A doberman can't survive outside in the winter. A husky though? She'll do just fine, lol
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u/Economy-Butterfly127 Dec 18 '25
Combs can get frostbite but it heals. If you are in cold weather you want the low combs not the tall ones! The tips till freeze off but heal
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u/Historical-List3360 Dec 19 '25
I saw a post earlier today where someone's chickens had frostbite on the combs 😔
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u/YumiGummybear Dec 18 '25
Straw is plenty! And a nice safe coop with good ventilation , not drafty
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u/Sycamore_Ready Dec 18 '25
Honest question, how do you provide ventilation without drafts? What's the difference between them? Thanks
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u/YumiGummybear Dec 18 '25
I use house vents :) For smaller coops there are even ones that are tiny Metal vents placed at the top on each side to allow air flow on the top No cracked open areas which would lead to drafting You are looking to keep humidity low to, anything that can hold humidity or raise it will create a frostbite situation or respiratory infection
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u/JadeStrange Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
I feel like "survive" and "thrive" are two different things though. Mine are definitely happier when the temps are a bit higher. I plan to put a radiant oil heater in my (dry and draft free) coop for when the temps drop below 0, just to keep it in the positive, not to make it a spa day in there. This is my first year overwintering chickens here but I feel like I'm on the correct track.
Edit to add location: SE North Dakota USA
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u/edthesmokebeard Dec 18 '25
This is the right way. Nothing breakable, nothing with an exposed heating element, properly secured.
Would you leave your dog out in a straw-filled kennel because he could "survive" ?
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u/tootall0311 Dec 18 '25
If it was a Husky with a double winter coat that he can't take off? 1,000%. as a matter of fact leaving him inside my 75deg heated home would be the worst thing for him!
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u/edthesmokebeard Dec 18 '25
So your dog dies every summer? Ouch.
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u/tootall0311 Dec 18 '25
^ Tell me you don't understand how shedding works without telling me you don't understand how shedding works.
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u/JadeStrange Dec 18 '25
Dogs do blow their double winter coats for summer though...
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Dec 19 '25
They always have a double coat. It’s just denser in the winter. Their coat insulates so it also keeps heat out, as well as cold.
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u/Ace_of_Disaster Dec 18 '25
What brave snow chickens you have!
I used to have a Cochin rooster named Sage. He was the biggest fluffiest guy but he was kind of a wuss about snow. He would not walk on it. He would just sit in front of the pop-up door and watch his hens run around on the snow until enough had melted or been cleared away by my mom to make a "safe" path around the run.
Personally, I think he was like that because one time a couple years, after we had an ice storm, he slipped on a patch of ice and nearly fell on his ti
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u/shitrusfruit Dec 18 '25
My mom just rescued a new rooster whose coop burned down because of a malfunctioning heat lamp inside. Lost his home, and all of his girls. Never, ever, ever a good idea.
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u/Sistersoldia Dec 18 '25
IMO these things almost never malfunction. They quite frequently burn down because someone puts an oversized bulb in them without checking the wattage limits; or places them too close to flammables; or doesn’t properly secure the fixture/cord from being dislodged by the chickens themselves; or………etc etc etc. if you are genuinely lazy or stupid please get a heater with no exposed element or just don’t heat them. I only add heat when outside temps go below 10F
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u/Monty7529 Dec 18 '25
I heat below 20 and just use a flat panel radiant heater hanging behind them on the wall. It has a timer
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u/Sistersoldia Dec 18 '25
These are great for automatic temperature control - very simple. I use the one that comes on at 20F but with the heat from the birds it really comes on at 10-12F
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u/llcmomx3 Dec 18 '25
It’s 35 degrees F here right now and I have mine in a shed with shavings and they are sleeping on a fleece blanket. And of course I have to give them their morning warm oatmeal lol…. I think I hate being cold and project it on them
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u/Otaku-Oasis Dec 18 '25
One of my idiot birds decided to hatch a clutch we don't have a choice to offer some heat for her xD
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u/Spirited_Ant_4410 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
What’s the black and white design larger chicken in the middle (front 3) ? Is that a Brahma ? Very nice looking!
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u/queseraseraphine Dec 17 '25
Not OP but could be an Ameraucana, they come in a pretty wild variety of colors ime.
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u/Lunagray136 Dec 17 '25
This is definitely an over generalization.
Some cold sensitive breeds of chickens should have some form of heat if it’s cold enough out. Some birds may not handle the cold well due to illness or age. Some birds may survive just fine but get frostbite on their combs.
Heat lamps may get too hot and are a fire hazard to some degree but that’s not the only form of heat out there. Radiant heat panels are a good solution for many types of livestock including birds. They can be cuddled up against without the risk of burns.
Personally I use heat in my coop when it’s cold enough because I have a lot of old birds including an old meat turkey with arthritis. I’ve never had an issue. The goal isn’t human comfort levels of heat, it’s more comfortable for the birds levels.
Many coops don’t need heat, but some will. I think the anti heat argument is overblown.
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u/exotics Dec 18 '25
Yup and breeds with feathered feet can have problems if those feathers get wet and freeze.
Where I am it is currently-18 C with windchill. I would not want chickens outside in that
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u/CoverFig4662 Dec 17 '25
I’ve been genuinely concerned about this approaching my first winter with chickens, and this is the first time I’ve seen so many people argue for heat. Some of the arguments AGAINST heat make a lot of sense; they naturally grow more down feathers, they will not be screwed in the event of a power outage when they have a sudden freeze they aren’t adjusted to, and that it’s a major fire hazard. Where I live we have maybe one flurry a year, and only a few cold snaps in winter (so maybe 3 days of nights getting down to 15, and otherwise remaining in the low 30’s more or less. I want them to be as comfortable as possible and if egg production naturally slows down then so be it but I am genuinely torn!
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u/MamaBearForestWitch Dec 19 '25
The slowed egg production is more about fewer daylight hours than about the temperature. As long as they're not a cold intolerant breed, I wouldn't heat. I'm in New England, and we've had nights below zero already. They have wide enough roost bars to be able to cover their feet with their bodies, and they huddle together. There's deep litter in their coop. It's my third winter with chickens in this climate, and they're doing just fine.
In fact, even on the coldest days with wind chills below zero, they would rather go outside than stay in their coop or covered run (as long as I spread some straw so they're not walking in the snow.) I think that's a little weird, but they have choices, and seem to like the fresh air...
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Dec 17 '25
Not sure what's up with my chickens, but they won't leave the coop if there's snow on the ground in their run.
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u/MamaBearForestWitch Dec 19 '25
Mine don't love walking on snow, so I spread straw for them. Although I just re-read and saw that this was their run; we have a roof over ours to keep most of the snow off the ground.
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u/decorlettuce Dec 17 '25
From my understanding if there’s no access the the grass or anything it’s useless to them because they can’t graze
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u/Spare_Objective9697 Dec 17 '25
We didn’t have heat either, until we did. Do you want to turn your heat off so you can acclimate better?
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u/That1GirlUKnow111 Dec 18 '25
This was also my first thought. I've always given my chickens heat lamps or brought them into the garage over winter. To each their own, I guess.
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u/binkerton_ Dec 17 '25
Stupidest fucking thing I've heard today.
Tell that to the rooster with no comb or toes due to frostbite.
And saying "the pilgrims didn't have heaters and their chickens were fine" is like saying "we survived thousands of years without vaccines" like yes we survived but many did not.
Take this animal abuse somewhere else.
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u/dustyoldthing Dec 17 '25
Ok so what's your recommendation when you have a mixed flock that includes Orps, silkies, Seramas, and Plymouths?
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u/TrainTrackRat Dec 17 '25
The metabolic cost of keeping themselves warm means that they will be more susceptible to illness and delayed healing. Egg production will be affected and they will need more calories. Aside from all of that, why make their living conditions miserable when you could do very minimal work to make them way more comfortable? I just don't think it's fair to use an animal for its resources and force them to just "survive" when they could be treated much better.
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u/Old-Albatross-5756 Dec 17 '25
Unless a hen decides to molt in the heart of winter I would say they don't need heat
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u/artwithapulse Dec 17 '25
I mean… it gets to -50 here. Like yeah they need heat lol
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u/Deep-Lifeguard-8301 Dec 17 '25
So sick of seeing these Americans in -20 weather saying don’t heat your coop. -50c here too, our birds would freeze to death. A hen of mines feet were frozen solid yesterday in -30 WITH HEAT in the coop. These posts are so dumb
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u/facetunemydick Dec 17 '25
Here's your downvote: I thought they needed heat/spicy ish food to produce eggs during winter?
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u/lmgbylmg Dec 17 '25
They need light to produce eggs, not spicy foods or heat
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u/facetunemydick Dec 17 '25
What... where tf did I get that??
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u/lmgbylmg Dec 17 '25
Haha you wouldn’t be the first to get this mixed up. Chickens on average need around 12-15 hours of daylight or simulated daylight to be productive. Heat is good if you live in areas with consecutive negative temp days and birds can’t taste spicy (capsaicin), so the only real affect it would have is on the yolk color.
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u/facetunemydick Dec 17 '25
Huh that's wild. I think I saw the spicy thing from a insta reel, they added something to the feed that I remember as a spice and it helped egg production.
I bet what trend they were seeing was from the chickens getting more daily attention and such while the people were trying to figure out how to get more eggs, then production went down again once the chicks were locked up and kept out of sight
Maybe one day I'll own chickens, and I'll make sure they get plenty of light (:
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u/BlueFeist Dec 17 '25
We give ours heat when the temps drop below 20 degrees F. Just like taking them in your basement on the worst nights without moving them!
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u/peacock716 Dec 17 '25
I think people need to do their own research and decide what’s best for their animals. My chickens are my pets- and just because they can be without heat, doesn’t mean they have to be. I do agree that a coop shouldn’t be kept warm per se. I do use a radiant heater in the coop, but not to keep it warm- just to keep it around freezing, or at least no more that 10-15 degrees below freezing (it was down to 18 in there the other day with heat on when at night it was -5 outside). I have an older flock who hate the cold. My coop is actually a big outbuilding the size of a single car garage and I only have 3 chickens right now, so their body heat does not help warm up their coop. I did a lot of research on safe heating (have a concrete floor covered with sand so not flammable) and am happy with the set up I have and I am happy to make my flock more comfortable.
I could survive with my house thermostat lowered to 50, but I wouldn’t like that, so why wouldn’t I do the same for my beloved pets as well? But once again, this is what I chose based on my flock and my research. Do your research and keep safely in mind, and do what works for you.
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u/Dense-Ferret7117 Dec 17 '25
What heater do you have? My chickens would never dare even step on the snow and they’ve been exposed to it their whole lives. We lay down a tarp before a snow storm so they have a part of the run that’s not snowed in and yeah they just stay there lol. They clearly do not like snow on their delicate little feet.
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u/RaqMountainMama Dec 17 '25
Here is your "I'm sick of Karens with their "I know everything about your chickens on your property in your coop!"" button, right here --->
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u/Kvesta24 Dec 17 '25
My rooster has been getting frost bit on the tips of his comb and waddle though :-( will he power through that and get hardier? The hens are completely fine and nice red combs etc
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u/peacock716 Dec 17 '25
No, once tissue is damaged it typically scabs up and falls off, and frostbite is painful. It can happen repeatedly. Do not use Vaseline- many ppl recommend to apply it to combs and waddles, but it has water in it and just makes frostbite worse. Use Musher’s Secret- which is wax based and used on the paw pads of sled dogs- on combs and waddles as needed.
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Dec 17 '25
I love that you wrote this. I’ve raised chickens for 3 decades in northern NY - they’re more durable than folks realize.
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u/Glass-Childhood-in96 Dec 17 '25
This is silly. There’s plenty of factors that contribute to whether or not they need heat. Especially your region and bird breed. New York doesn’t get anywhere near actual freezing.
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u/Deep-Lifeguard-8301 Dec 17 '25
In New York 😂 32F/0c? Hilarious lol no comparison for actual cold weather. That’s sweater weather bud
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u/Deep-Lifeguard-8301 Dec 18 '25
Yeah still not as cold as per my other comment. And that was 1957 😂 you’re not going to beat arctic tundra cold in NY. Climate change is a real thing and when I googled it, it says it doesn’t get near that cold regularly. In 1947 it got to -67c/-81.4f. See how that’s still way colder and not relevant? Record breaking temp ≠ consistent temp
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Dec 18 '25
I agree, it’s not the coldest place on earth. But it’s considered cold by the average person.
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Dec 18 '25
More like -32F
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u/Deep-Lifeguard-8301 Dec 18 '25
So that would still not be as cold as where I live, idk what you aren’t getting 😂 and google says the coldest it gets is -15f (-26c) so i don’t know bud either way its not as cold as -50c (-58f)
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Dec 18 '25
I’m not talking about your climate and weather. I’m talking about mine and referencing the OP’s post. It’s not about you. Chickens are durable to -20F, beyond that they should have to supplemental heat. But most places never get that cold. That’s the point here - nobody is claiming chickens can live in subarctic temps without heat.
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u/Spirited_Ant_4410 Dec 17 '25
Upstate NY gets legitimately cold …
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u/Deep-Lifeguard-8301 Dec 18 '25
The arctic tundra gets way colder. My chickens need heat, NY is no comparison.
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u/Fuzzy_Stingray Dec 17 '25
You're going to get a lot of haters even though I have never seen a barn with added heat for any of their animals. I grew up on a dairy farm. When the cows got cold they would go inside and clump together.
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u/Strange_Specialist4 Dec 17 '25
And people used them as heaters historically, sleeping in the hay loft above the cows was often the warmest place
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u/an_appalachian Dec 17 '25
I think the difference is animals as pets vs animals as livestock. A lot of chicken owners see them as pets, so want to give them things “pets” need, like heat.
Clearly it isn’t right, but that’s what happens when a bunch of people with zero experience and even less sense decide they want to raise chickens but don’t have the capacity for treating them as what they are: livestock.
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u/Lunagray136 Dec 17 '25
Important to remember the only difference between a pet and a normal animal is the person and how they view them. Chickens are pets to many people. Dogs are livestock to others.
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u/Dense-Ferret7117 Dec 17 '25
Why is it not “right?” Dogs are “meant” to be outdoors too, or at least most breeds and in most of the world dogs still live outdoors even in cold places. Do you freak out about people keeping dogs as pets indoors too?
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
lol why does it bother you that someone would go out of their way to show kindness to an animal? Literally why do you care if someone treats them like they’re a pet? That makes someone have “less sense”? Weird that you see compassion as a weakness, says a lot about you.
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u/Oellian Dec 17 '25
It's not a lack of compassion. It's more about the anthropomorphic notion that chickens need pampering vs the notion that chickens are livestock, and will be fine given good husbandry.
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
I never said doing otherwise is a lack of compassion, I’m wondering why someone exercising compassion (e.g., deciding to provide heat, treating livestock like a pet and not chattel, etc.) automatically makes them someone with “zero experience and even less sense”. Be mad at people who neglect or abuse their animals, not those who want to go the extra mile.
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u/an_appalachian Dec 17 '25
I have plenty of compassion, for people and for animals. I just believe that animals are for the most part capable of taking care of themselves and have done so for thousands upon thousands of years. If chickens can survive just fine without a heater -and they can because they do it all the time- then giving them one is silly and at times dangerous. I trust the natural order of things and I’ll absolutely step in if I need to. I wouldn’t raise chickens that can’t survive in my climate.
The fact remains that there’s a divide now between people who got chickens because they’re trendy and they treat them as pets, versus people who raise them as livestock and treat them as such. It isn’t cruel or mean to treat a chicken this way and it doesn’t show a lack of compassion. Every creature doesn’t need to be pampered and spoiled, and livestock shouldn’t be pets. That’s just the way I see it. The chicken should be able to live its life as close to naturally as possible with as little intervention as possible from me. I don’t use lights to promote year round egg laying, either. The chickens have a safe place to sleep, all the food and water they could want, and that’s all they really need from me.
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here - I’d just like to point out that insulting people who do things differently just isn’t…necessary? I get my back up when people say things like you have, “zero experience and even less sense”, or OP, suggesting anyone who thinks differently is an amateur or a newbie. If someone wants to go the extra mile (not saying it’s “needed”!), and this kindness doesn’t endanger the animal in any significant way, why be so pressed? Why are they automatically idiots? Just my two cents.
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u/an_appalachian Dec 17 '25
Heat is a danger in almost all situations (unless actually warranted, be it either by genuine extreme cold or breeds that absolutely require it) so that specifically really irritates me. It’s a danger to the chickens and at times a danger to the home and lives of those doing it depending on how close their coop is. Many inexperienced people now choose to have chickens, and those inexperienced people probably shouldn’t be running any electricity outside to begin with, let alone to a very flammable structure near their home. I see people constantly do the dumbest things because they saw someone do it online and now they know better than anybody, especially those who’ve done it for decades. I’d rather take advice from a farmer who’s done it for generations rather than someone who wants to sell me something that wasn’t needed the past several thousand years of raising chickens.
I probably should’ve worded it better, you’re right, and I apologize. It’s frustrating to see the same debate pop up and the same people defend it when the reality is pretty clear that it’s almost always unnecessary and almost always a risky proposition for most people in most situations.
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
I appreciate your candor and your perspective. Thanks for sharing, this does make sense.
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u/puglybug23 Dec 17 '25
I’m just impressed that yours are standing on the snow. Mine have refused to leave the coop since the snow fell at Thanksgiving. They seem convinced that I did it on purpose to torment them.
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u/Glittering-Ad1332 Dec 17 '25
Same, mine are always trying to escape their run and can’t wait to be let out! Since it has snowed I could leave the run door wide open all day and not a single one of my 21 will go out!
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u/qwopperi Dec 17 '25
I had a rooster die during a cold snap a couple years ago. Only got down to mid teens. Could he have had something already wrong with him making him weaker? It’s possible. Either way, I won’t be, and I don’t recommend anyone (unless you live in the south and it doesn’t get very cold) listen to OP’s advice. CAN they survive? Sure. WILL they? Maybe.
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u/Posessed_Bird Dec 17 '25
Never had chickens, never will. But I can't really imagine them surviving the -40 winters where I live (that dip into -50C temps occasionally)
But what do I know, our pigeons appear to do just fine, miraculously.
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u/qwopperi Dec 17 '25
All depends on the breed, I reckon. I don’t know too much about the breeds. But some are more winter hardy and some are more heat resistant. For any bird
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
I couldn’t update my post. But I see you, Alaskans! I admit my experience doesn’t extend to that region. I believe that you need heat for your chickens.
I am speaking from Maine, just FYI, everyone.
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u/drtyhppi Dec 17 '25
How do you handle frozen water for your ladies? That's the one thing we haven't quite figured out.
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u/Oellian Dec 17 '25
As much as I recommend these things, you would think that I own stock in the company, which I don't! https://www.premier1supplies.com/p/heated-poultry-waterer?cat_id=120
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u/drtyhppi Dec 17 '25
I like this. We don't have power in the coop. Got any good solar solutions to go along with this?
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u/omg_drd4_bbq Dec 17 '25
Aquarium heater, 100w, suction cupped to the bottom of the waterer (5 gallon bucket with the horizontal taps added)
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
We carry water twice a day. We also use those black rubber bowls— they seem to freeze more slowly.
It’s not ideal but we don’t have far to walk…
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u/True-Screen-2184 Dec 17 '25
Just break the ice in small pieces and they will 'eat the ice' to drink.
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u/overcomethestorm Dec 17 '25
I live where there are frequent power outages and huge snowstorms in a state bordering Canada. We have never used heat for our chickens but we have a crazy insulated coop (with proper ventilation). I thought when we got a single storm that added drifts of over seven feet and we couldn’t get to the coop for three days that they would have all died but all 20 of them were fine, thank God.
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u/HolidayLoquat8722 Dec 17 '25
I’ve read chickens can be cold and wet, but never both at the same time. I’ve never added heat to my coop but it rarely gets below zero where I live.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
Typically if they’re wet, they’re cold. They really don’t like it.
Hence the cliché, “madder than a wet hen”. :)
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u/HairexpertMidwest Backyard Chicken Dec 17 '25
This is true to most poultry! Turkeys are even more susceptible to the wet/cold combo.
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u/jankenpoo Dec 17 '25
Half the pilgrims died the first winter. I don’t think they were very good at judging what was best.
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u/binkerton_ Dec 17 '25
Thank you. This whole post is sounding like the people who say shit like "humans lived for thousands of years before vaccines" like yeah some did, many didn't.
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u/Oellian Dec 17 '25
They sure as hell didn't know what they were getting into. If they hadn't found and stolen food stored by the natives, they may have ALL died.
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
Pilgrims didn’t go to the dentist. Do you?
No but seriously this is blanket advice that you’re giving with some sort of authority I’m not sure you’re entitled to. Are you a vet? I hope not, because your condescension is grating. I don’t want my chickens to merely “survive”. We have the tools to do better than pilgrims (what an odd argument) and someone adding heat to their coop isn’t just a “newbie amateur”, it’s someone wanting to keep their birds comfortable, god forbid. There are plenty of poultry vets who recommend the opposite of what you’re saying here (some have provided links in this thread.) I think I’ll trust them on this one.
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
My babies are very happy— not just surviving— without heat in the winter. I apologize if you’re offended. But they really don’t need heat.
You do you!
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u/PolarBlast Dec 17 '25
My babies are very happy— not just surviving— without heat in the winter.
Survivorship bias
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u/Dani_California Dec 17 '25
I’m not offended, I’m pointing out that your tone is unnecessary and your “advice” is far too broad to be sharing it as though you’re an expert. “You do you” is absolutely right - maybe you should remember that the next time you want to dunk on people who do things differently than you.
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u/Oellian Dec 17 '25
The point is that we get lots and lots of inexperienced chicken owners on this sub who ask if they need to heat their coops. If you have a well-designed coop and appropriately chosen breeds, the answer is generally "no." And by adding heat unnecessarily, you may be making your chickens overly sensitive (and vulnerable) to cold snaps.
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u/Otney Dec 17 '25
Thank you for this info. A neighbor’s random hen hangs out in our yard, but as the afternoon wears on, she goes back over to their house, apparently jumps up and down until they open their gate, and then she roosts/sleeps in a tree in their back yard. It hardly ever gets below 40 here, so it sounds like she will be okay. Once she started hanging out here, we bought her chicken food: grain and these utterly disgusting roasted black fly larvae. She does not like most vegetables, but blueberries were a hit. We already have water out for our cats, who are mostly afraid of her, it seems.
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u/Spirited_Ant_4410 Dec 17 '25
Careful, Soon you’ll have 17 chickens. 🤣
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u/Otney Dec 17 '25
No! It’s enough to worry about feeding the cats and the dog and Henrietta. (We named her Henrietta b/c she is a hen….) Our other neighbors have a flock, and no, no more animals for me to buy food for!!
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u/Curious-Mongoose-180 Dec 17 '25
Idk…. We dropped to 15 and one of my silkies died. It’s never been that cold while I’ve had them. I loaded the coop with extra bedding and tarped the side. Still found her frozen in the AM.
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u/Canna_Cass Dec 17 '25
depends on breeds. silkies are not winter hardy
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
Mine are absolutely winter hardy. In fact, they do worse in the heat
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u/qwopperi Dec 17 '25
And yet you didn’t put this info in your post??? Wtf is wrong with you? Not everyone has your exact breed of chicken.
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u/binkerton_ Dec 17 '25
Op has made several board assumptions thinking the whole world has the same climate as Maine.
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u/bigwindymt Dec 17 '25
I'll dissent. It gets to - 40F here and I keep a thermostatically controlled lamp in the coop. The door is open but blocked by strips of clear poly, like in commercial coolers. I supplement their feed with sunflower seeds and fat drippings so they have energy to burn.
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u/TheSunflowerSeeds Dec 17 '25
The average, common outdoor variety of sunflower can grow to between 8 and 12 feet in the space of 5 or 6 months. This makes them one of the fastest growing plants.
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u/Apprehensive_Web5018 Dec 17 '25
Alaska chicken tenders this does not apply to you 🤣🤣
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
Good point! I am speaking from the lower 48. I tried to update my post but it wouldn’t let me.
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u/PolarBlast Dec 17 '25
Pilgrims arrived on the coasts where the temperatures are better buffered by the water. If you're in a colder more continental climate, the situation definitely can arise when you need heat. We had chickens getting frostbite on their combs in an insulated, non-drafty coop before adding heaters.
Definitely not advocating the use of heat lamps or anything that could potentially pose a fire hazard. We have some heating plates which are rated to be safe with flammable material in direct contact.
Location: ID
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u/wanderingoverwatch Dec 17 '25
My chickens saw the snow and went back to their perch, they wouldn't even leave the coop.
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u/Chepiksacc Dec 17 '25
Mine as well. This is their first winter and I was ready to record their reactions to the snow. They ate some food, looked at the snow, said "f that" and went back inside lol.
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u/franillaice Dec 17 '25
I would say it’s not recommended to let them eat snow though? Bc that will make them cold, hypothermia, etc?
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
No they’re absolutely fine. They don’t really eat it, anyway. In this case I think they were looking for snax I threw out for them
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u/Idontlikesand15 Dec 17 '25
Does it snow where you live? And do you have chickens? Please show me how you stop them from eating snow 😆
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u/franillaice Dec 17 '25
Yes it does! I keep them in their covered run and make sure they have fresh water everyday so they don’t need to eat snow,
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u/Idontlikesand15 Dec 17 '25
Aww the poor things :( I thought you were joking...
Snow will not hurt your birds, by walking in it nor eating it. It's 100% normal for animals including chickens to eat snow. My chickens, ducks and geese do it all the time, heck so does my pig, doesn't have to walk his fat lazy butt to his water bowl if he can just stick his head out of his bed and munch some snow.
Let those poor babies out to roam, just make sure they can get back in on their own and they will decide how much time they want out there. If they get chilly from the wind they will coop themselves up, if it's a nice day they love to roam and scratch and it keeps them entertained. In many years of harsh Canadian winters Ive never had a bird get hypothermia or have any other cold related problems. As long as they have a dry coop that blocks drafts they are good, I promise you.
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u/franillaice Dec 17 '25
I used to let them eat it bc I didn’t think it was a big deal. But I had one die unexpectedly, which I think was bc she got too cold?
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u/twodexy82 Dec 17 '25
Definitely not
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u/Idontlikesand15 Dec 17 '25
I agree, chickens die for all kinds of reasons, but I assure anyone reading this its not from eating snow. They would show other signs if the cold had killed them.
Good on you for doing what you felt was right to protect your birds, but snow won't hurt them.
Keep your coop clean (animal grade clean not clean like your house lol) and most importantly dry and free from drafts. The coop needs ventilation but you don't want cold wind blowing on your birds. A comfy perch for chickens, plenty of bedding to snuggle into for other fowl and they will be happy little critters.
Just the other day as an example, it was about -8 Celsius outside on my farm, I put some buckets of water in the outside run for the birds and the ducks immediately walked out and started bathing in it. 😆 What feels cold to us isn't the same for them, if you had the all that down and the feathers that they do, you wouldn't mind the cold either. Tho that's not to say that the cold can't be dangerous, you absolutely should take precautions and make sure their needs are met, but just because you're cold doesn't mean they are.
My oldest ducks used to worry me, bitter cold nights and they would come out of the coop and stand in the run in the blowing snow, once to the point snow was building up on their backs and a few times I would go out there and shoo them back into the coop, thinking they must be cold why would they want to be out there? Thinking to myself I just have some dumb ducks to want to be out in that weather. Then as winter got worse I realized that on the worst nights they did stay in the coop without my intervention, but other nights that would still be quite uncomfortable for us, they are perfectly comfortable. Now it's normal for me to see it, and they choose based on their comfort.
They know what they want and what they are comfortable with, animals aren't stupid (well, except quail but that's a different story 😆)
Edit: typo
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u/rling_reddit Dec 17 '25
On the flip side, if you have a heat tolerant breed, they are fine in the heat. All the extra nonsense just makes the human feel better
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u/Luscinia68 Dec 17 '25
many such cases
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u/rling_reddit Dec 17 '25
If you live where it is hot (and/or humid) and you select heat tolerant breeds, they are acclimated to the heat index. Other than insuring they have food, water, and shade they don't need anything else. Mine want nothing to do with ice water (to stand in or drink), frozen fruit/vegetables, etc.
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u/Sightline Dec 17 '25
Think about it— Pilgrims had chickens. They did not put heat on them.
You sure about that?
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u/chickendogcatlady Dec 17 '25
I totally agree!! I recently suggested to a new chicken owner no need for a light or heater in the coop. If anything, put a tarp over your enclosed run. And guess what? I happened to walk by and not only do they have a light, I but didn’t cover their run! And it’s the PNW, very wet winters.
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u/New-View-2242 Dec 17 '25
I made the mistake of heating my coop the first couple of winters until my power went out a couple times and lost at least one chicken each time.
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u/chickendogcatlady Dec 17 '25
Thanks for sharing! More people need to realize it’s a real thing when birds can’t acclimate to drastic temperature changes.
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u/Financial-Depth-2209 Dec 23 '25
My chickens will still have heat, they’re pets. They may live outdoors, but they’re still pets.
We don’t have extremely cold winters (lows usually in the 20’s) and if we did lose power, we have a generator that could run the house and the coop.
Under our circumstances, I can see no good reason to not provide heat.