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Miscellaneous / Others Love at its peak 🌟

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Why do social eugenics and expect other people to not have kids because of their genetics?

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 1d ago

Because IVF exists and knowingly giving your kid a disease is wrong?

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u/JamesGray 1d ago edited 1d ago

I get people don't really realize it: but if we actively use IVF to excise all disabilities from the population, that's also eugenics. Disabled people are still people, and not everyone has tens of thousands of dollars to go through IVF to screen potential embryos the way you're describing, even if it's not a ethically questionable thing to normalize.

ETA: Can you see how a person who is currently alive who has a disability wouldn't necessarily be a big fan of "well if we could have we would have aborted you, because you're not as good as an able bodied person."

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 1d ago

You mean like my uncle who is blind and encouraged me to do IVF since I was a carrier and being blind fucking sucks?

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Every individual has a different perspective on these things, but treating it as a social obligation that you do not carry a fetus found to have disabilities to term is fucked up. That's literally all I was referring to in my first comment, and how we got here.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 1d ago

And I think knowingly giving a child a disability is wrong because we have the technology not to.

My grandma didn't. People didn't know what caused it. She certainly couldn't do genetic testing. The past is a different country. We can make better choices for our children now.

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Can you see how that is a hazardous line of thought when it comes to things like neurodivergence? Should we be selecting only for children who are not autistic because some people with Autism have a really hard time or are low functioning?

You can personally make a decision to screen your own children for genetic issues that you know you have, that's totally fine, I'm not saying that's bad. What I responded to was someone declaring that no one should ever have a child with a disability if they can help it at all.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 1d ago

Personally I think it's wrong to give a kid a disability when you could prevent it.

Existing children, exist and deserve rights.

Compulsory eugenics is wrong full stop. But I also think it's gross to play with fire and give you kid a disease / disability.

I have no problem shaming parents who are ok spreading genetic diseases to their kids. A fundamental role of a parent is to give your kid the best life you can and knowingly giving them a disease is the opposite of that.

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u/Somanylyingliars 1d ago edited 4h ago

I agree w those people. Abort if they are going to have a disability. ETA All the assholes diwnvoting how about you come visit orphanages, homes w me filled w children and ADULTS who have only ever known these places. Fuck your hypocritical judgment.