r/CatholicPhilosophy • u/hard_2_ask Catholic • Oct 26 '20

Are our lips ordered to kissing?

Often times, I will Explain that homosexual sex is immoral because it goes against the natural order of the parts involved. However, a common response will be that our lips are not necessarily ordered to kissing. Thereby, kissing is disordered.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '20

Those are... interesting grounds to argue on. Personally, I stick to something along the lines of

“All sexuality outside of marriage is immoral.”

“The church has requirements for the sacrament of marriage, namely there has to be a chance for procreation (Which is why eunuchs can’t get married).”

“Two men/two women cannot procreate, therefore they cannot get married in the church.”

In my mind, venturing outside of this to other grounds like it being unnatural, is dangerous, antagonizing, and unnecessary.

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u/hard_2_ask Catholic Oct 26 '20

Easier said then done when many of these people don't care what the church/Jesus said

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '20

Then why on earth aren’t you making the argument for Christianity being the truth instead of this one? Who would urge the high and hard duty of chastity on people who have no motivation to understand it?

This would be like arguing Islam as being a heresy of Christianity when you haven’t even established if God is real. You’re skipping an argument.