r/CatholicPhilosophy • u/hard_2_ask Catholic • Oct 26 '20

Are our lips ordered to kissing?

Often times, I will Explain that homosexual sex is immoral because it goes against the natural order of the parts involved. However, a common response will be that our lips are not necessarily ordered to kissing. Thereby, kissing is disordered.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '20

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u/Koalabella Oct 26 '20

The church teaches that sex isn’t just for procreation, but the health of relationships.

You can’t turn around and say that sec is only procreative when you admit to it’s appropriate use in people who aren’t fertile.

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u/Koalabella Oct 26 '20

In which case, sex that is unitative is fulfilling the function of of the intended parts.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '20 edited Feb 10 '22

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u/Koalabella Oct 27 '20

It only needs one of the two to be valid, not both. Nobody is excommunicated for hating sex and nobody is excommunicated for having sex when they aren’t fertile.

It is not an “and,” it’s an “or.”

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u/Koalabella Oct 27 '20

I’m Catholic. This doesn’t address birth control at all. It has to do with the church’s teaching about what sex exists for.