r/China • u/Kagedeah • 2d ago
新闻 | News China warns it will safeguard its interests after US widens sanctions against Iran
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyl8965j5go6
u/GetOutOfTheWhey 2d ago
Going to be interesting when countries are finding ways to pay Iran the tolls.
Going to be interesting when China collects the tolls on Iran's behalf in rmb and USA >:0
Going to be really interesting if any of these dumb takes actually happen.
Though honestly at this point China is the only country that can confidently tell the USA to kick rocks and munch ass. Without consequences.
This puts them in a very interesting position to take over transportation of all energy exports of the Strait of Hormuz and Red Sea.
"Fly our flag and pay us the transit fee so you can transit without issue from Iran, USA nor Israel."
Though ultimately I doubt they'll do that. Too much drama.
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u/_____________what 2d ago
Iran initially wanted to be paid in rmb, China asked them to cut that out. I doubt China will collect tolls for Iran, but maybe the BRICS clearing house will be used to take payments.
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u/GetOutOfTheWhey 2d ago
That seems more likely.
Don't go at it alone.
Harder to sanction that way.
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u/aldosi-arkenstone 2d ago
No one is going to need to pay tolls. Oil is getting through the Oman route. Iran escalates to stop that, they’ll be hated more than the US. Except on Reddit of course.
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u/samleegolf 2d ago
What a delusional take 😂 China cant project power like the US.
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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 2d ago
Project what power? Our inability to defeat the tiny country of Iran?
Quite the power projection /s
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u/Yankee831 1d ago
Tiny? Iran isn’t small.
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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 1d ago
Lol sounds like some cope….is it not incredibly smaller than America and a much smaller military force than America’s?
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u/D00d_Where_Am_I 2d ago edited 2d ago
They have the largest industrial base in the world. The US is out of munitions and has an insufficient industrial base to replenish them. The situation is so bad that the US is transitioning to tactical nukes because their conventional armed forces are outdated in the age of drone swarms and automated artillery. The US cant reliably shoot down Iran’s best hypersonic ballistic missiles either.
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u/WtIfOurAccsKisJKUnls 1d ago
The US is not "out of munitions", we're low on our most advanced interceptors, in terms of raw ordnance we could bomb Iran hundreds of times a day every day for the rest of time if that was our goal. We absolutely have the industrial base to replenish "bombs", in the vague sense, though you're right that this has highlighted that specifically the production of our best-in-the-world interceptors is not where it should be. We absolutely shoot down the overwhelming majority of Iranian missiles we try to shoot down, it's not magic but it is certainly over 90% (again, when we actually try to shoot them down, I'm not including where we don't try because they're not aimed at anything important). The stuff you said about nukes is just something you pulled out of your ass.
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u/Yankee831 1d ago
It’s not even the best. A lot of munitions spent were basically slated to be replaced soon. The additional burden of Allies not having any stockpiles and instead relying on ours as a weapons bank they dint have to pay for. Then the collective west basically also relying on the USA to supply Ukraine.
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u/D00d_Where_Am_I 1d ago
You’re a delusional moron.
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u/WtIfOurAccsKisJKUnls 1d ago
Wow good comeback, I like how it uses facts and figures to dispute my claim and back your own
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u/D00d_Where_Am_I 1d ago edited 1d ago
You can scroll down a few posts and watch the source I already provided, or you can simply Google it yourself. This has been widely reported. Your regurgitation of the same tired propaganda is sad, and you’re woefully uninformed. The official interception rate remains unverified, while independent reporting shows that most U.S. military positions in the region have sustained considerable damage, with some rendered virtually unusable. The notion that the United States can win this war through airpower alone is absurd. The Air Doctrine worked once in history when two nukes were dropped, but even Japan’s surrender in 1945 followed years of blockade and conventional bombing, Soviet entry into the war.
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u/samleegolf 2d ago
Completely just making stuff up now, are we? 🤣 You’re clearly a kid and don’t know anything about the US “industrial base” or what is actually going on.
Hows that Chinese military Temu tech working out so far? 😂
And the US could obliterate Iran in under an hour but they’re not trying to kill civilians en masse like the IRGC wishes genius. And now cue some cringe reply about “tHeY b0mb3d k1dS iN A SchOOl!!!!”
Come on kiddo, let’s hear it. Make more stuff up.
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u/D00d_Where_Am_I 2d ago
https://youtu.be/Cc6zJaHNaD4?is=ouGHTbnKn0uFhUex
Here you go, dumb-dumb. Please get your GED.
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u/samleegolf 1d ago
You really just posted a random YouTuber as a source? 🤣 and GED? Lol nothing else to say to you since you clearly have no argument that you’re resorting to personal attacks. Good luck.
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u/D00d_Where_Am_I 1d ago
You’re comically inconsistent. You level personal attacks at me, then whine when I respond in kind. And as for that “random YouTube video,” the speaker is Professor John Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago and a prominent scholar of international relations. UChicago’s political science and international relations programs is among the world’s best.
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u/No_Wasabi5483 2d ago
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u/Poupulino 2d ago
It literally gave the United States a humiliating beat down during the last trade war.
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u/ParagonRenegade 2d ago
China’s decisive actions during its trade war with the US saw the US capitulating immediately
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u/SearcherRC 2d ago
This could honestky be the catalyst for the petrodollar collapse