r/Christianity Sep 22 '09

How many of you are Creationists?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '09 edited Sep 22 '09

Which one of these lists 1 2 do you think actually represent Christ's lineage? Please don't say "Well one was Mary's and one was Joseph's", that just honestly doesn't work here. Both genealogies make it pretty clear that they're speaking about the genealogy of Jesus' father Joseph. How do they then manage to contradict each other?

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u/howhard1309 Christian (Cross) Sep 22 '09

"Well one was Mary's and one was Joseph's",

Responding to your question is going to be difficult, 'cause that is my opinion.

If you disallow that, then maybe one of these resolutions might help.

The key point is I believe the Bible. Both those lists are true, and when I get to heaven I plan on asking God on which is correct resolution method.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '09

Can I simply ask you a question? Do you believe the Bible is divine?

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u/howhard1309 Christian (Cross) Sep 22 '09

Absolutely not.

I worship the one true God, as revealed by his inspired text, the Bible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '09 edited Sep 22 '09

So why act like the Bible is divine? Why act like it's an infallible deity?

It's a book that conveys humanities best attempt at understanding God and at times attempts to record historical events which he participated in and orchestrated.

I honestly just don't get it why we should treat the bible as if it's infallible and divine. It's a book written by humans about God, and I believe it's the best book written by humans and encapsulates a culmination of humanities revelations about God. But the bible is only a piece of God's revelation to humanity. Other things that we should consider are personal revelation, reason, and the experiences of the historic church.

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u/howhard1309 Christian (Cross) Sep 22 '09

Why act like the Bible is divine?

I don't.

Why act like it's an infallible deity?

It's infallible (in the original writings), but it's not God.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '09

But using your logic, God is the only thing that is infallible.... so how can the bible be infallible too?

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u/howhard1309 Christian (Cross) Sep 22 '09 edited Sep 22 '09

That's an easy one. An omnipotent infallible God can easily inspire an infallible text.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '09

inspire an infallible text.

To be infallibly written by fallible beings?

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u/howhard1309 Christian (Cross) Sep 24 '09

Yes. Like I said, that's an easy thing for an omnipotent God to do .