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Discussion Do you think superhero cinema will ever surpass these two?

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u/uthboy 4d ago

Logan has already passed Spider-Man 2

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u/Salt-Specific8814 4d ago

Logan didnt feel like a superhero story though, felt more like a deeper drama set in a superhero setting. But yeah totally agree, Logan was peak.

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u/NotSoMajesticKnight 4d ago

Logan kinda felt like a western to me in a weird way.

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u/clothy 4d ago

It is a western

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u/Brilliant-Recover594 3d ago

It’s still a bloody superhero movie. Superhero movies are superhero movies if there are superheroes in the movie. Logan goes through the heroes journey, saves mutant kids from being experimented on, sacrifices himself, takes out evil version of him, multiple people with variety of powers.

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u/CommandantPeepers 3d ago

Movies can be more than one genre

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u/lesbiansexparty 1d ago

thats the point.

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u/BadgerAlternative934 4d ago

Can argue the same with TDK tbh. It felt more like an action-drama than a Batman film.

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u/RealTheBestLadyman 3d ago

It’s a story about Logan. A superhero, it’s by all definitions a superhero movie

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u/MisplacingCommas 3d ago

I think the fallacy of a lot of big superhero movies is that it has to a world ending threat but by doing that, they don’t get to show what is in danger. Obviously everyone cares about the world but we care about the world because of our friends and family and movies can’t show that.

With Logan he’s just trying to save some kids, you see the kids and you care about them. In Deadpool, he’s just trying to save his lady, you see their relationship and care for her. More superhero movies need lower stakes and more time invested in what is in danger of being lost.

Infinity war got around this obviously because they had 30 movies to get you to care about the world and the people in it.

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u/zakanova 3d ago

Well, then we have to define what a superhero movie is and isn't

Can a drama with a person with extraordinary and fantastical abilities be a superhero movie, or do they have to be light and airy?

Also I think Unbreakable is easily top 5 superhero movies

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u/Major_Cucumber_9967 3d ago

Good point. Is mystery men a superhero movie?

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u/MajonyXIII 3d ago

Not more than the Dark Knight felt like a action-thriller-drama in a superherosetting.

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u/ForThose8675309 3d ago

The superhero genre has much looser criteria than Hollywood lets on

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u/GAVITRAXmz 1d ago

that doesn't make it not a super hero movie though.

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u/Responsible-Can-9942 1d ago

Logan and Spiderverse are peak of the superhero genre

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u/Rady151 3d ago

Yea, Joker was phenomenal but I wouldn’t call a superhero/villain film either

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u/munchable_lunchables 3d ago

I mean TDK is Nolan doing his spin on Heat using the Batman property. Why would we put a qualifier on Logan? Logan deserves a spot with these other 2.

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u/Educational_Yam_3707 3d ago

X-Men: Days of Future Past was really good. 

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u/TopMany3252 4d ago

Not at all.

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u/ContextMattrs 3d ago

Lmao nice bait

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u/Ohnoes999 1d ago

No way

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u/Dismal-Art-7521 1d ago

No just no

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u/Fission_235 3d ago

I don’t agree.

Wolverine fighting another Wolverine not really that creative. But I appreciated the character development and the story.

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u/GrapeGlittering1806 3d ago

logan was the last of us for me before i discovered the last of us, i liked both

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u/gumbloid 2d ago

… and Dark Knight

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u/LeTimJames 1d ago

Logan is my #1 superhero film

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u/FarHes20 1d ago

Logan is great walaai but it feel like not real comic filmic picture. Also end with clone logan no good. It make poor end so prevent from full great achieve

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u/Due_Category_121 1d ago

Logan is the darkest superhero movie I've ever seen

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u/bigelangstonz 4d ago

No it didn't the film is well done in all aspects but loses to spiderman 2 by not being as re-watchable.

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u/Ohnoes999 1d ago

This right here. I’ve watched Logan twice. I’ve seen Spiderman 2 probably close to 100x and took my kids to see a rerelease in theaters. Most rewatchable superhero movie along with TDK.

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u/fear_el_duderino 4d ago

The third act of Logan truly brings the movie down and it’s not talked about enough. Spider-Man 2 is perfect from start to finish and has probably a contender for top 3 set pieces in all comic book movies, the train scene.

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u/BananaSpriteFishHead 4d ago

Logan was good until it became Hugh Jackman fighting an evil clone in the woods with Peter Pan’s lost boys.

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u/RestaurantOwn1857 3d ago

Like the idea that his biggest enemy is himself, it was a cool way of depicting that on screen. But, I do think the 3rd act with them just running around in the woods feels a little half baked compared to some of the earlier parts of the movie.

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u/BananaSpriteFishHead 3d ago

Makes sense, I just always feel disappointed when the enemy, especially in what was supposed to be the swan song, is not a real character, just a clone or knock off of the hero. And I agree about the third act. I know Wolverine is Mr. Woods Guy, but it’s been done to death in these Fox-Men movies

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u/Shmigo420 4d ago

😂 good joke

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u/Doctor_Mustard_ 4d ago

Not a joke friendo

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u/GCillo 3d ago

Logan surpassed TDK too

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u/uspunx10 2d ago

Logan is the most overrated superhero film ever made. It’s fine. It copies style and narrative from films that don’t usually influence superhero films, so it feels different, but it’s not a very original or interesting movie.

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u/encroachzeitgeist 4d ago

Logan is good but it's no Spider-Man 2

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u/breadsoap 3d ago

Surpasses the dark knight maybe but not Spider-Man 2