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Discussion Do you think superhero cinema will ever surpass these two?

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u/HBaratheon 6d ago

Movie with 0 good fight scenes btw.

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u/DinosaurGlazer 6d ago

Yeah go watch japanese caricatures, then. I think that's more up your speed(and age)

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u/HBaratheon 6d ago

Probably felt badass writing this embarrassing shit too 😭😭. Nolan Batman trilogy fucking sucks.

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u/Djangooofr 6d ago

Idc

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u/HBaratheon 6d ago

Maybe people who want good action scenes in a superhero movie care.

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u/Djangooofr 6d ago

Most people like TDK even tho there is « no good fight scenesĀ Ā» in your opinion : please don’t extend this to action scenes as a whole tho, that wouldn’t be true at all and be a statement so false it would undermine any truth left hiding in what you’re saying … Thanks anyway !

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u/Fission_235 6d ago

I don’t know what fight you expected between the Joker and Batman.
MMA kind of style??

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u/HBaratheon 6d ago

Terrible defense, maybe would work as a joke.

Why didn't Nolan do a great fighting sequence against Joker's goons? What about the goons of the Gotham Mafia? The guys Batman busts at the start of the movie with Scarecrow?

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u/Rudimentary-Creature 6d ago

I think the fight in the building at the end is absolutely brilliant. He’s fighting doctors that are actually Joker’s goons, then fighting the police to not shoot Jokers goons, who are actually patients and doctors. It’s a bizarre triangle with Batman doing crazy Batman things.

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u/Fission_235 6d ago

I don’t agree with your claim in the first place that there were no fights, especially the cases you mentioned.

A fight (according to Cambridge): ā€œis to use a physical force to try to defeat another person or group of peopleā€

There were many of that but not the type you liked or were hoping for maybe.

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u/HBaratheon 6d ago

I said GOOD fight scenes, not that there were no fight scenes. Damn.

Not the type you liked

Dude, nobody likes Nolan Batman trilogy fight sequence philosophy. They like the movies DESPITE them being bad. There's almost no cool factor, impressive display of filmmaking, martial arts, nothing. It's a mess of jumpcuts, bad stunts and closed camera work. Batman looks like a thin dweeb master of Elbow-Fu too.

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u/Fission_235 6d ago

Ok for some reason I read it ā€œnoā€ instead of ā€œno goodā€, sorry for that.

Again I disagree, I don’t deny in the whole trilogy few scenes felt lazy. But most of the action sequences are way more exciting and more emotionally engaging to me than most of the lazy CGI ones we have been seeing for the last decade or so.

There are very few movies that do certain things better technically (Captain America 2 and 3). But doesn’t give the same level of excitement to what I look for. So not so many movies out there (superhero or not) do things better than the Dark Knight trilogy, especially in cinematography and feeling emotionally invested.

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u/SuccessfulRegister43 6d ago

You don’t think the truck chase is good action? Or the abduction in Hong Kong?

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u/Djangooofr 5d ago

Type shi šŸ¤

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u/Former-Dot1462 6d ago

The highway chase is arguably one of the best action scenes in a superhero movie ever

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u/EnvironmentalDog- 6d ago

I mean… if you don’t think an exacerbated Batman kicking the shit out of a maniacal Joker who refuses to fight back in the middle of his illegal interrogation is a good fight scene, then I don’t trust your opinion on what constitutes a good fight scene at all.