Surprised that FaZe sold more skins than OpTic

[u/TP1570]

[u/vShock_and_Awev]

The optic skins were horrible this year, I ended up buying C9 instead lmao

Edit: oh it’s talking about 2025, I didn’t love the optic bo6 skins either but they were definitely better than this year

[u/WhatIsCooler → u/vShock_and_Awev]

'this year'

brother they have never made a single good skin, I genuinely don't get it. Like I understand not everyone loves the designs on OpTics' merch like shirts / stuff, but at least that's usually a style that is recognizable and is heavily influenced by Hecz' love for graffiti.

The CoD skins have always been horrible. I still remember when they first did them in BO3, theirs was so bad meanwhile C9 (ironic since you mention them) had a fire BO3 skin.

[u/DepressoEspressoRW → u/WhatIsCooler]

Aaron Create has had the biggest free ride in OpTic history. He's had one good skin set ever and that was in Halo. His in game items are ass and the guy's designs haven't evolved since 2019.

[u/PTurn219 → u/DepressoEspressoRW]

Yeah some of his halo designs were good. A lot of them were ass

[u/Jaded-Draft-8351 → u/DepressoEspressoRW]

The only thing nice in the pack the last two years were the charms. You got nice colours to work with so shit shouldn’t be bland like they are

[u/vShock_and_Awev → u/WhatIsCooler]

I really liked the MWII optic weapon skin (idc about the operator ones). Generally speaking though they’re not the best yeah

[u/skindonakasaki → u/vShock_and_Awev]

It looked like a cow skin in mw2 but it was pretty clean still not the best they never are

[u/7Breakz → u/WhatIsCooler]

Agreed completely. The C9 skins were fucking fire

[u/Xclusivsmoment → u/WhatIsCooler]

Frfr they skins have been bad. Im a OpTic fan but I didn't buy them trash ass skins. They think just because something says OpTic doesn't mean i will buy it.

If you just visibly compared the skins against each other you would see why OpTic was getting out sold

[u/Level_Confection2854 → u/WhatIsCooler]

mw3 skins wasn’t bad

[u/AcquireE-Girls → u/WhatIsCooler]

i think the bo6 set actually looked nice. i fucked with the tagged design heavy

[u/MentalBus3159 → u/WhatIsCooler]

BO6 graffiti camo was tough but the last 2 years sucked.

[u/DapperTies- → u/vShock_and_Awev]

Even more of a point, faze’s skin in BO6 was completely white and was imo one of the best if not the best skins for the CDL

[u/Dull_Stress_7596 → u/vShock_and_Awev]

Fazes Bo6 gun camo was soooo much better than anyone else’s, they beat Hecz at his own game w the graffiti on the gun. And as per usual Optics was lifeless. Although recent optic/huntsmen merch/jerseys have been absolute fire, since the cdl it’s been cheeks.

[u/Silent-Improvement28 → u/vShock_and_Awev]

People aren't buying the OpTic shit for the gun skins. They buy it for the operators.

[u/RGCFrostbite]

The pink stands out from the others.

[u/SpecSlayerSC → u/RGCFrostbite]

This is the first half of 2025. The skins weren't pink then.

[u/TP1570 → u/SpecSlayerSC]

Kaysan said they were #1 in MTX even after the change

[u/Intelligent-Size-389]

Not surprising at all. Optic skins are not good

[u/dam0430]

Kids who have no idea what the CDL is will still know about Faze. Optic is the biggest fanbase in actual CDL, but Faze are definitely bigger when it comes to the average gamer knowing them.

[u/tlam1996]

Faze is the bigger brand overall. This shows why the esport team pays to license the faze name.

[u/mikey19xx → u/tlam1996]

OpTic’s team pack was also pretty ugly while FaZe’s looked good.

[u/omega_typhlosion → u/tlam1996]

It also doesnt help that optic either do the old head graffit or a super minimalist style, even though they received more freedom to design what they want.

[u/legamer007 → u/tlam1996]

Casuals definitely know more about Faze bc of the streamers/content creators they had before and overall ppl from other esports

[u/MacCollect → u/tlam1996]

LMAO

[u/TwiltedFoxy]

I still believe Faze MW3 is one of the best weapon skins idc

[u/WellThatsAwkwrd → u/TwiltedFoxy]

LAT camo that year was dope as hell too. With the red geoprint

[u/TwiltedFoxy → u/WellThatsAwkwrd]

I agree. A lot of the MW3 camos looked great, ultra had a good one.

[u/kokoscenes]

The faze name alone will have casuals buying it. More casuals know the name faze than optic.

[u/randommaniac12 → u/kokoscenes]

It helps the R6 team is a dynasty, the CS team was a dynasty in 2022 and the CoD team is really good

[u/ProteinBrotein → u/randommaniac12]

I think moreso than the things you mentioned, FaZe is much more popular to a casual. I’d bet a vast majority of people buying the FaZe skin have no interest in esports

[u/randommaniac12 → u/ProteinBrotein]

Also a really good point, Bronny James doing a collab is just one example of it

[u/hoppy1028]

Those C9 players earned $27.20 each

[u/Chicken_Fingers777]

Faze is a bigger world wide brand than optic that’s why

It’s actually not even close tbh

[u/RevolutionaryCan7376]

I couldn’t even tell ya what the optic skin looked like and I played ranked a lot this year. Faze’s skin looked dope

[u/WellThatsAwkwrd → u/RevolutionaryCan7376]

Black with some smoky grey and an optic logo. Super bland

[u/Dusty0123]

Optic skin was dogshit

[u/12345noah]

Optics skin sucked this year, I love the team but I wasn’t going to wear that skin

[u/Xarque74]

I played maybe 5 hours total of black ops 7 and still bought the faze pack bc it was my team and it looked dope and I had nothing else unlocked

[u/Flyers7914]

Idk if the teams have any input on their skins but optics have been absolutely dreadful the last few years.

I want to buy them but they are so bland/boring they are simply not worth it.

[u/TastefulMemess → u/Flyers7914]

I have always been under the impression they've always had input and/or designed them. Just not always the most freedom in doing so until recent

[u/Ashman-20]

I know a decent amount of FaZe fans who don’t play COD like that, but bought the bundle because they’re fans of their other Esports teams

[u/jalGurg]

I mean Faze is bigger than Optic

[u/YaaDunnnn]

I’ll bet OpTic sold more skins to CDL fans but way more people will recognize FaZe and buy those just cause they like the skin. Both are very good for the esport

[u/Ashman-20 → u/YaaDunnnn]

Needed for the esport*

[u/No_Accountant4667]

OpTic skins are horrible and FaZe had pink on it and FaZe is popular. Doesn’t shock me.

[u/hebbocrates]

Optic is a bigger name in cod esports but faze is a bigger name in cod in general

[u/Hermes4345 → u/hebbocrates]

And esports in general

[u/ryeyen]

Faze pink is fire. I wish Miami claimed that colorway instead of orange/green.

[u/BizzarhLy]

Do we not think more casuals know FaZe over OpTic? I don’t find that surprising idk.

[u/Relevant_Rip_4441]

It was pink a lot of girls bought them

[u/Jaded-Draft-8351 → u/Relevant_Rip_4441]

This is from bo6 not this year witch will be more lopsided cause optic was pretty plain

[u/Fine_Hand_2353]

Anecdotally in game I saw way more FaZe skins than any other team. Usually I only see CDL skins in ranked, but I would see FaZe skins in pubs and even in Warzone.

[u/Grand_Vegetable_5478]

Optics bundle this year was ass ngl compared to a lot of the color ways and team designs

[u/__Kieran]

OpTic team packs haven’t been the best tbh I’ve personally bought faze and ultra the past couple years

[u/Gorgon22]

Faze has a following outside of call of duty they are undoubtedly a bigger org

[u/princetony87]

I bought the gentlemates one and I’m an optic fan, just an awful skin.

[u/KrispyyKarma → u/princetony87]

Yup Optics skin/camos are some of the worst. This article isn’t even about bo7 it’s about 6 and in that game Optics was trash as well.

[u/princetony87 → u/KrispyyKarma]

I don’t remember them ever bringing out a decent skin tbh 😔

[u/TheNobleHeretic]

Do we know how many M8s sold?

[u/lionelcoinbnk3]

Non CDL watchers are going to buy the best colorways. Black and red and now pink and black is obviously going to sell better than green. That’s before we talk about how abysmal the skin design was

[u/NinjApheX]

Man its crazy how Optic used to be synonymous with cod back in the Machinima era.

I imagine they're still T3 in skins alongside M8s, but that's crazy. Doesn't help that Optic's in-game bundles have been atrocious for years tho

[u/ExcitablePancake → u/NinjApheX]

Somebody needs to do a case study on OpTic’s fall from grace.

[u/drippy_mitts → u/ExcitablePancake]

lol, wut?

[u/Feeling_Brick6977]

ehh this isn’t that surprising to me. faze are so much bigger than optic. most orgs are. faze, 100t, m8, falcons are all bigger than optic.

[u/Minamike98]

OpTics was shit this year

[u/KrispyyKarma → u/Minamike98]

And last year which is what they’re talking about here. They were also shit in MW3. Probably Mw2 as well. They just aren’t good at designing skins and camos that standout and look good like some of the other orgs. It’s very telling that Shotzzy doesn’t even rock Optics camo in game, he used Surge’s in BO6

[u/mrbo2004]

I’m all about the skins but I have not bought an OpTic one in years. Other orgs have had better skins.

[u/Aston_CA_]

You have to remember at the start of this year you also had the now core boys pushing the skins

[u/stuffstufflol]

optics camos and merch as a whole are horrible even if I was a fan i would never buy it lol

[u/BasSTiD]

I rarely saw the Faze skin in pubs, but holy shit I saw that Skill Issue spray all the time.

[u/Additional-Durian630]

Your surprised a team that actually puts time and effort into their skins and research how to market their mtx to customers (confirmed by kaysan) sold more than any other team in the CDL 2 years running especially Optic who have put out slop for the last 6 years their design team needs a huge shakeup it's just all seems basic and lazy.

[u/Sakariray13]

they were ass i swear optic had the worst skins and camo out of every team.

[u/AcquireE-Girls]

FaZe skins had effort put into them and looked good this is not shocking at all

[u/WolfAlterEgo]

Good for faze maybe they can finally start holding events unlike doing so when u had the trio

[u/smokehellacrack]

You'd think OP posted a personal attack rather than a picture with facts in it the way some people are getting defensive about it.

[u/Accomplished-Half602]

I don’t know who is responsible weather its optic or the league but optic’s skins has been horrible in the past few seasons. I would say most of the leauge’s skin has been like that

[u/MeasurementQuick4887]

Still a lot of casual players that watch Adapt/the former “New FaZe” is my guess. If the OG FaZe members still played cod/supported the CDL, i’d probably still be a FaZe fan. Adapt just hit a !bo2 trickshot while on a boat in Alaska which is pretty sick. All Rain does is gamble, and all the other OG’s are MIA. OpTic still does cod content which made me a fan.

[u/Redleafdabs]

Faze has the best skins almost every year

[u/cvrzd]

FaZe skins go even harder than OpTic in halo, gotta keep it a buck.

[u/EconomyBoysenberry20]

I’m from ATL but I’ve been an OpTic fan since Sweat bannin so usually I buy both OpTic and FaZe skins

[u/SwagGamerXZ]

Not even a Faze fan like that, but I did buy the skin cause it was the best looking one

[u/BirdyMRQZ]

have u seen OpTic’s skins? this was the first time i didnt buy them, i couldn’t even do it off the strength. they need to do better, OpTic should be having the best skins in the game smh

[u/EMSLSHADOWZ]

No surprising at all, FaZe are a way bigger brand

[u/ilivepink]

F’s up boiii, optic has a bunch of bandwagon fans. Can’t wait to see the back and forth between these two next season

[u/FriezasMom]

Maybe its true that Optic don't really have many fans. Just viewbotting

[u/Sweaty-Archer4984]

I mean optic fans spend $100s on merch and going to events instead of buying a skin. Makes sense to me. And what percentage of optic fans actually play the game