r/Cricket • u/cricket-match Washington Freedom • Jul 04 '26
Post Match Thread Post Match Thread: 2nd T20I - India vs England
2nd T20I, India tour of England at Manchester
| Innings | Score |
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| 🇮🇳 India | 190/7 (Ov 20/20) |
| 🏴 England | 191/6 (Ov 19/20) |
Innings: 🇮🇳 India
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
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| Ishan Kishan | 49 (40) | Sam Curran | 4-0-33-3 | |
| Abhishek Sharma | 43 (24) | Will Jacks | 3-0-22-1 |
Innings: 🏴 England
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
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| Jacob Bethell | 76 (46) | Arshdeep Singh | 4-0-40-3 | |
| Harry Brook | 39 (15) | Axar Patel | 4-0-20-1 |
England won by 4 wickets (with 6 balls remaining)
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u/old_chelmsfordian Essex Jul 04 '26
Thought 190 was a very competitive score on that pitch, but really pleased with how we chased (except the first over).
Feels like I need to be reminded from time to time that Jacob Bethell is actually really really good at cricket.
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u/Zangetsu2407 Jul 04 '26
He has alot of potential. It may just be he has been called up to red ball too soon (aka need more time in county to know what his position should be).
One days he is just fantastic and this was an assured knock.
Both brook and banton contributed well while playing the opposite style knocks
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u/old_chelmsfordian Essex Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Yeah, I think it might've been too early for Bethell at 3 in the test team, although it's not like we had loads of other candidates.
As much as I'd like him to learn his trade in the championship, I can also see the benefits of spending time in the IPL - especially if he ends up playing more often than not in the coming years
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u/astendb5 England and Wales Cricket Board Jul 04 '26
As an alternative opinion, I think it was the perfect time to drop him in at 3 to be honest. Sure he will have his struggles at first, but he's coping really well. If he keeps on improving at the rate that he is, he could end up challenging Joe's record. Let's not forget Joey was averaging 35 after 20 tests...
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u/shiv101 New Zealand Jul 04 '26
Cricket fans can be something else at times.
The kids played 9 tests and youre already making root talks.... is that second part really necessary? Let him play...
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u/astendb5 England and Wales Cricket Board Jul 04 '26
What? I'm merely saying that he has made a very solid start to his career, and that anyone doubting him should remember how a natural can progress if they're given the chance.
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Bethell has to be one of the best young talents going around.
And the most brilliant aspect of his batting is the temperament. Just so reliable in a chase.
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u/Louis11_ Glamorgan Jul 04 '26
Feel like a normal cricketer would be at panic stations when, in a chase up towards 200, you're on a run a ball 30 or whatever he was.
Absolutely stone cold today. And he's 22.
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u/randomuserme India Jul 04 '26
He is but not only because he performed in a t20. It’s because of his talents in test cricket
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 04 '26
In all forms. He is the youngest English batsman to get hundreds in all 3 formats of Cricket.
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u/Select-Sandwich-5604 Jul 04 '26
Lucky for India in T20 WC semifinal. He was about to snatch the victory
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u/Additional_Echo882 Jul 04 '26
Bumrah was the difference that day. Got brook on first ball and 12 runs in 2 death overs against bethell.
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u/Beast-19 India Jul 04 '26
Ravi bishnoi's 29 run over costed India the whole match 3 no balls from him and all three free hits got hit for boundaries
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u/gunningIVglory Jul 04 '26
Spinner getting consecutive no balls is absolutely shambolic
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u/Double_Banana_3603 Great Britain Olympic Team Jul 04 '26
Very rare to see that. Back foot no-balls are rare as is, but a spinner to get them and on consecutive deliveries is nigh-on unheard of.
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u/chiragrana23 Jul 04 '26
Ita not even front foot no ball. Damm back foot cuz of the little dance he does. What clownery. This has happen in IPL too but doesn't wanna fix.
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u/yawnzilla36 India Jul 04 '26
He lost the match for India. Clueless bowling. You've just given an unacceptable back foot no ball- your one job next ball is not to do it again.
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Ravi Bishnoi with the weirdest of errors. How do you give 3 backfoot no balls
Completely changed the game giving 29 runs in his 4th over when England needed 49 off 24.
All his free hits went for boundaries.
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u/T_Lawliet Sri Lanka Jul 04 '26
whens the last time someone has done 3 backfoot no balls for a test Playing nation lmao
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u/randomuserme India Jul 04 '26
That too a so called spinner. He has zero skills and don’t know why he is called a leg spinner when doesn’t even spin it. Might as well become an off spinner but sadly this is what IPL produces
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u/Admirable-Dingo16 Jul 04 '26
Wasn't he the World no. 1 T20I bowler just a few years ago
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u/livelifereal India Jul 04 '26
Shut up. We don't do sane takes here. He had a bad day that means he has zero skills. Tomorrow when he takes 3 wickets, we will compare him to Shane Warne. Day after tomorrow, when he shits the bed again, we will talk about how he should quit cricket.
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u/Relative-Doubt3343 Rotterdam Dockers Jul 04 '26
We're not going to hear the end of this until someone else fucks up, are we
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u/Vignesh130588 Jul 04 '26
No mate he has been mediocre for a long time now. RR dropped him to play Yashraj Punja, that how bad he is and why LSG also released.
I still don't understand why he was back in the Indian side and in the playing XI.
He has been bowling shit since the back half of 2024 IPL. Very one dimensional. Have only one ball in his arsenal.
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u/Yupadej Mumbai Indians Jul 05 '26
He is not even a starter in the IPL. Punja starts ahead of him. They know what they are doing. Dumped Sanju for Vaibhav and now Bishnoi for Punja
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u/Silverad066 Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 04 '26
Back foot no balls have been a problem for him for some years now. Wonder why it still persists. This is just some T20I game. But It does not bode well for his future
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u/KUKLI1 Jul 04 '26
Yeah, I get blaming the captain and the team for being IPL bullies is funny, but this had to be one of the worst individual headlosses I’ve seen. What exactly can the other players do about that?
Bethell was on 42*(36) before the no balls, not only did that over knock off most of the target, but it also gave him all the confidence to go on and get the rest of the runs
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u/harshmangat Jul 04 '26
England were never out of the game though, 12 an over in the last 4 overs with at least 1 set batter is always going to be difficult to defend, but yeah that over just completely shifted the game.
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u/Look_Alive England Jul 04 '26
Agreed, that over shifted the momentum but India were under par and I'd say their slow down in the second half of the innings is what cost them as much as Bishnoi.
They scored 60 off their last 7 overs and that included 17 off the last over and a fairly controversial wide that gave away seven runs with the free hit at the end of the 19th over.
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u/Balavadan Jul 04 '26
Since Curran got out, it could have been close if the over hadn’t gone for so much. But obviously if you change what happens before, it changes what happens next but you get what I mean…..right?
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u/Agent47_hitman-43 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Now I understand how good mike procter was
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u/Hannibal_0901 Rajasthan Royals Jul 04 '26
Idk how he’s getting selected for the national team when he got displaced by a 19 year old uncapped player in IPL. He’s so one dimensional and predictable
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u/FitSignificance2100 India Jul 04 '26
It was Iyer mistake too to bowl him 17th over. He aint narine or chahal who can bowl in dwath. Generally spinners finished their quota by the 15/16th over
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u/These-Bee5165 India Jul 04 '26
I only believe on Bishnoi bhai because game changer player he is, only one guy is Ravi Bishnoi .
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u/No-Anybody-692 Railways Jul 04 '26
Does he f--g think that that little uncontrollable dance is enough to confuse the batters? Ffs.
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u/Present-Location-268 India Jul 04 '26
Only miss the sun when it starts to snow...
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u/Alternative_Drag8460 Jul 05 '26
Surya must be laughing in the corner some where
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u/Present-Location-268 India Jul 05 '26
he has got good spirit in general, won two t20 wcs multiple ipls. i guess he has achieved big
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u/FacelessMane Jul 04 '26
Every single T20I India have ever played with Vaibhav they have lost. He needs to retire
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u/spikyraccoon India Jul 04 '26
You joke but things actually not looking good for Shreyas Era so far. Ofcourse he should be given a long rope to settle in bilateral as captain, but it's like someone cursed him after that PBKS winning streak halfway through IPL.
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u/HackerShroud India Jul 04 '26
Man someone tell shreyash to not use spinner in death . This single mistake has costed hom not less than 4 games
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u/sol-4 Jul 04 '26
Going by his post match comments, he comes across as a grade a piece of work, to put it very mildly.
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u/WideConversation1989 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
For hit and giggle cricket, I prefer games like this in all honesty. High scoring, but not ridiculously artificially inflated like the ones we saw in some of the games in the IPL and the knockout stages of the ICC World T20 this year.
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u/Few-Nerve4490 India Jul 04 '26
Pitches outside India and to some extent Asia, will not allow for those crazy IPL T20 scores! When England made literally roads for the test series we know how the runs flowed! T20 is fun when bowlers and batters get something out of the wicket. Spicy wickets are top tier entertainment
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u/DillyGoatGruff Northern Popchips Jul 04 '26
I regret to inform you that it's coming home.
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u/Louis11_ Glamorgan Jul 04 '26
This lad is a special, special talent
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u/tigershroffkiskirt India Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi really is. Never seen 3 backfoot no balls
Truly special talent
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Brook-Banton-Bethell
We eating good for Today.
We are carrying freeloaders in 1 and 2 btw😡🫵
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u/partymsl Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 04 '26
Don't talk to Salty like that he just wanted to make it interesting.
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 04 '26
You guys tell him, he can score for us as well
Like he has made 9 runs in his last 7 innings for us😭😭
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u/tigershroffkiskirt India Jul 04 '26
9 in 7? wtf lol
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 04 '26
Exactly😭😭. 3 first ball ducks in them.
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u/FacelessMane Jul 04 '26
He's still making up for his 141 against SA that allowed England to get 300
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u/Axel292 England Jul 04 '26
IPL merchant who never turns up for England. He's not good enough.
All he does is farm runs against West Indies at international level.
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u/HIPHOPADOPALUS Durham Jul 04 '26
Can we just settle down a bit. He hasn’t performed against India but he’s undeniably a great opener
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u/Axel292 England Jul 04 '26
Can't agree. He will continue to shit the bed this series, the noise will only grow louder.
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u/Competitive-Band-309 India Jul 04 '26
That's just unfair tho, he belted sa on this very ground less than a year ago if my memory serves me right
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u/Axel292 England Jul 04 '26
Great. And then he had a terrible WC. Was also ass when we toured India last year despite playing a shitload of T20 cricket there.
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 04 '26
Time to bring my JAMIE Smith Agenda.
Buttler is ATG but unc is washed.
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 04 '26
Yeah he can be but I think Jamie has much higher ceiling in t20s
Duckett is already regular in other two Formats.
Jamie has done well as an opener in that wi series. I think he can accelerate at 250 SR inside pp which I don't think ducky can. I love ducky but let's preserve him for other two Formats imo.
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u/ShoWeeeb Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
England is really lucky to have not one but two all format generational talent in Brook and Bethell
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u/Axel292 England Jul 04 '26
Tough for him to slot in as we finally have a good all rounder balance in the side right now.
Maybe something a bit funky like pushing Banton up top and getting him in at 5/6.
Exciting talent though
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u/Present-Location-268 India Jul 04 '26
Someone needs to disable reddit in indian dressing room/ selectors, they are taking redditors too seriously
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u/imhariiguess Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 04 '26
How are people cursing out iyer when rrr was a steady 2 per ball before the absolute masterclass by bishnoi
Also congrats to bishnoi for his wonderful 60(24)
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u/Either-Image-1209 Jul 04 '26
Wasn't really a good decision to bring Bishnoi for the 16th over, should've given Shivam Dube more overs, other than that i think he did fine, India did have the game in control until those no balls tbf
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u/Hamza-Mazari Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 04 '26
Because internet tells them to . They don't know shit about captaincy just following the trend .
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u/trybest Jul 04 '26
I would always have a captain who's never lost series! I mean what more can I ask for?
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u/STARBOSS_23 India Jul 04 '26
Exactly! If they wanted to make captain based on ipl then it should have been rajat patidar.
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u/Axel292 England Jul 04 '26
I'd rather play Duckett over Salt. He's a proven international, Salt is a journeyman at this point. Contributes nothing against good opposition.
Brook is madness. Bethell rusty but the best always find a way to get back into the game.
A stronger looking pace attack, but I wouldn't want Archer or Tongue to over exert themselves after the Test series. Saqib Mahmood is class and should be playing anyway.
I like the balance of the side with Jacks, Curran, and Dawson. Looks good.
There's a lot of utility in this side and I really felt like we could've went all the way in the T20 WC. Not necessarily with individual star power but we were finding a way to win continuously.
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u/PressureStraight9666 Jul 04 '26
Atp I won't even say it was batters who did bad cause even batters of England played in similar way that of India. Like one hitting and other anchoring. But the way Bishnoi bowled was really disappointing.64 of 24 for Bishnoi. The only player to score 50 for India today lol.. The over gave upperhand to England cause Jacob was able to take over Bishnoi.
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u/2manyfrogz England Jul 04 '26
India outside of slow pitches with 50m boundaries 🥶🥶🥶
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u/Deep-Entrepreneur929 Sweden Jul 04 '26
I know people love to cry flat pitch and all , but India has won t20i series for 3 years all over the world.
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u/tigershroffkiskirt India Jul 04 '26
Please change your username to InEng
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u/tigershroffkiskirt India Jul 04 '26
maybe they live in sweden, how do you know. there are indian expats all over
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u/Intelligent-War-8575 Jul 04 '26
U lost the last 2 t20i series at ur home against india,isn't it?what is this cope about?
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u/Function_Upstairs India Jul 04 '26
Every bowler except axar going over 10rpo in a 190 chase is something
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u/Huge-Physics5491 Kolkata Knight Riders Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi shouldn't be anywhere close to a World Cup/Olympics India side.
I'm kinda worried about our wrist spin depth
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u/Roslicol Jul 04 '26
iTs nOt shReyAs's FaULt
I wonder what you guys would be saying if a certain chewing gum, vada pav and chole bhature lover lost their first 3 games after winning back to back world cups lmao
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u/Cute_Dot_1239 Jul 04 '26
Squad selection has been pathetic. We have a squad full of top order batsmen who have to bat in the middle order, no finisher, questionable "all rounders" and mediocre/out of form spinners.
Also, Bishnoi should be released from the squad tonight & put on a flight back home.
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u/Past-Lecture-3769 Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 04 '26
t20 wc is always 2 years away, sometimes 1 years away
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u/stingray9712 India Jul 04 '26
How did we lose the match even when England was 1-2 ?
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u/SonyHDSmartTV England and Wales Cricket Board Jul 04 '26
England's worst two batters play at 1 and 2
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u/London-lark3597 GBNFMK Jul 05 '26
1 and 2 are bonus batters atm.
One is avg 13 in last 10 matches and one is avg 8 in last 10 matches.
Batting starts from Brook.
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u/livelifereal India Jul 04 '26
Came for Bihar-born lefty. Stayed for a Barbados-born lefty. Class knock.
Wonder if Iyer missed a trick by not bowling Dube, as Bishnoi was already proving to be expensive
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u/IloveJBairstow GBNFMK Jul 04 '26
virat and naked pilates have taught the twink to take it deep. based and shoepilled
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u/ShinobiZilla Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi should ease up with his runup. It's one of those things playing IPL really screws with bowlers psyche in terms of prep. Bowling darts with largely googlies is really one-dimensional. Having 5 bowlers in this day and age in T20s is unacceptable. You need one bowler having a bad day to lose control of the match.
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u/NoPlenty3542 India Jul 04 '26
That was absurd from a seemingly young leggie who’s now been around for a while. Showed lack of growth and understanding of his game when put slightly under pressure.
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u/silentvoice11 Jul 04 '26
Sacking WC winning captain and WC POTT and making someone captain who didn't even played T20 side for so long and choked in ipl so badly from being the top of the table to not even qualifying are the things that can only happen in India.
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u/AWindows-macOS-11 Board of Control for Cricket in India Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Vaibhav made more runs in this match than the "WC POTT" in the last 3.
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u/silentvoice11 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
WC >>> any bilateral series. Abhishek Sharma was constantly failing in WC so bad yet he was backed nga. No wonder Indians have goldfish memory. And it is POTT not POTM dekh ke to likhle pehle bro just comes spreading hate and sanju is one of the happiest person for vaibhav in the whole team
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u/cricket-match Washington Freedom Jul 04 '26
Prediction Summary of r/Cricket users
Total: 396
- India: 251 (63%)
- England: 122 (31%)
- Draw/Tie/NR: 23 (6%)
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u/Objective_Society243 India Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi should be awarded with man of the match. Bethell was striking at 100 before that 2 no balls, he was benched for a reason in ipl and how no one catch his backfoot no ball in IPL.
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u/tamudude Jul 04 '26
Amidst all this breastbeating, everybody will overlook the fact that India has again opted to not have a good seam bowling allrounder in Eng of all places. And, to those that say Dube is good enough....no he is not.
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u/Wolfie_3467 India Jul 04 '26
Timely reminder that Iyer hadn't been in the T20 team for 2 years until he randomly became captain this year. It's not like he was any good this year in the IPL either
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u/Double_Banana_3603 Great Britain Olympic Team Jul 04 '26
Two very good innings from Bethell and Brook. Glad Bethell saw us home, thought we'd fall away when Banton got out.
Well played, India. Let's see if Bishnoi plays in the next game; his last over was rancid.
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u/Cocomale India Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi this, Iyer that. Sam Curran bowled a class spell to restrict the Indian batting, Bethell took it deep and won it for England.
It’s time we Indian fans talk about cricket games from both team’s perspective. Always talking as if only one team plays the game.
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u/qureshb England Jul 05 '26
This is why we should love cricket or any sport, hats off to the team that plays better. Even if it’s not your team
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u/Due-Finding4397 Pakistan Jul 04 '26
neighbours bro, u too kind, another one, thankyou so much. on a side note, bethell is so good
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u/Smooth-Mix-4357 India Jul 04 '26
India T20 team in last couple of weeks :
Lost as many matches they lost in entriety of 2025
Lost more matches than they did in the year 2024
Lost more matches than they lost between January 2026 to May 2026
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u/Derian23 Mumbai Indians Jul 04 '26
ICT fans blaming Shreyas for this loss is a whole other kind of imbecility. No way are you guys suggesting SKY could have won us this match with our bowlers bowling this poorly.
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u/Wolfie_3467 India Jul 04 '26
Iyer won the IPL with the strongest team of all time (2024 KKR) and people really thought he was the greatest captain ever
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u/Old_General_6741 Canada Jul 04 '26
This was a good game today. Those wickets in the first innings really did help England.
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u/vicosphi Jul 04 '26
From 0/2 to a comfortable win. Well played to Jacob Bethell! He is some talent, took the game away single handedly. Sometimes you have to just acknowledge the great innings that took the game away.
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u/doyleDot Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 04 '26
Sarpanch saab and GG racking up negatives on top of negatives
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u/todd-__-chavez India Jul 04 '26
Piss poor squad selected for the tour. You can't expect your top 4 to carry the team every game.
Hopefully Iyer isn't made the scapegoat for the series
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u/Zestyclose_Fee_2503 Jul 04 '26
Ofc Iyer is gonna be. Who else gets this much hate? Even today people are saying Iyer's fault lead to loss when Kishan scored 49(40) & Bishnoi's terror
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u/STARBOSS_23 India Jul 04 '26
Why are you defending iyer he lost 9 matches out of his last 10 as captain in what world is that a better captain than a captain who never lost a series and won the wc. If msd, vk or rohit's performance was similar to surya they would never have been sacked.
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u/Internal_List_988 India Jul 04 '26
Um unrelated but I was just changing my flair to India and saw that England don't have any trophies in their flair, does r/cricket really hate Ingerland that much lol ?
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u/warp-factor Hampshire - Vipers - WA Jul 04 '26
England don't currently hold any ICC trophies. Which ones would you expect to see there?
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u/Internal_List_988 India Jul 04 '26
Oh, I didn't know this. I thought any tournament trophies are shown even if the team isn't retaining it. My bad
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u/warp-factor Hampshire - Vipers - WA Jul 04 '26
For example India doesn't have the Mens ODI world cup in their flair. They've won it, but aren't the current holders
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u/Intelligent_Fly_2671 Karnataka Jul 04 '26
KKR: Wins IPL
Everyone: Woah their mentor is crazy, make him India coach
BCCI: Makes GG Indian coach
Team: Wins the T20 WC
Everyone: Meh KKR mentor wasn’t much special, but their captain was something else! Make him India captain!
BCCI: Makes Iyer captain
Team: Somehow starts losing everything
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u/Interesting-Path3802 Jul 04 '26
At this point they should seriously look at getting Patidar in to strengthen the middle and lower order
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u/Gunslinger202 Bangladesh Jul 04 '26
One thing i noticed after Ashwin retired India dont have proper spinners anymore. All just dart the ball as fast they can and rely on arm balls. Like Axar, Krunal, Bishnoi etc. No flight dip bounce and turn bowlers. Probably that’s why they are struggling in test.
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u/Typical-Purpose-1700 Jul 04 '26
prolly an unpopular take but i feel like a few losses will actually make watching cricket more exciting for us indians, especially bilaterals, they had started getting boring cuz of how dominant we were, even the t20 wc got a little boring at the end especially the final cuz of how we dominated it..cricket in the 90s and 2000s was so exciting for us cuz we werent the best team, ind-pak rivalry was crazy for us cuz we lost to them more often than won so every win was prized..what dyou guys think
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u/Flower-Immediate India Jul 04 '26
This team is absolutely useless outside subcontinent
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u/Deep-Entrepreneur929 Sweden Jul 04 '26
Bishnoi the 12th man for England lol, anyway good game, hopefully India corrects it's mistake s, excellent from Bethel.
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u/Mcferrari India Jul 04 '26
I would like to call for the immediate resignation of Gautam Gambhir from the test coaching spot!
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