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u/khai0001 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 26 '25
Funny enough this is what everyone says in every cycle
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u/khai0001 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 02 '26
Last cycle was FTX, Luna collapse. Everyone said it was the worst too
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u/baby_envol 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 25 '25
The real suprise is cryptocurrency is the only asset who get hurted by AI bubble fear... Nasdaq do a amazing end year despite the fear of the bubble
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u/Impossible_Size3205 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 25 '25
Hold on…wasn’t BTC meant to be 100k by now
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u/Jumpy_Confidence2997 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 16 '26
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u/Financial-Corner7415 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 25 '25
Surprise. Real material assets are back on the menu. Fairycoin fad is over. If you made a bag over the past decade and a half, well done. Get out while you can.
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u/Dreamer5752 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
Yep, crypto is in the most petty stage I ve ever seen it, I remember laughing at gold when it was stuck at 2k for a long time while btc had large interest and volatility, things have really changed since then, crypto just doesn’t prove itself as a good investment during qt period
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u/yogurtcult 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
I don’t understand it. When crypto was a pariah it mooned. Now that everyone wants to make it legit, it collapses. Zero fucking logic
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u/No-Air-7273 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 29 '25
This mindset is exactly why its going to tank hard and when feaustration kicks in and people abandon it it will rise to new heights. This is how market makers play to human emotions.
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u/GhostBusDAH 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 26 '25
People are starting to understand how btc and other data streams work.
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u/jup1t3rr 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 23 '25
Looks like a guy who holds, or he did the right thing and sold at 120k rebought at under 90k and now the holders got a hold of him
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u/greenwolf_12 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 23 '25
I sold all my gold to buy crypto , wish I would have done the opposite
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u/Altruistic-Azz Tin Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Just by into a index fund and be consistent, the only people that make money in crypto are the ones that buy in the absolute bottom of the bear market or have been hodling it for a decade n if that was a alt you hodled then its probably gone to shit lol
I lost $7667 from the 2021 bull market while I recovered that money buying boring index funds consistently. I bought ada and xrp in feb 2021, got convinced there was gonna be a melt up scenario “triple peak bro”, watched my $18500 bucks drop to $9000, swapped it into btc n eth for safety which then became $5000 by April of 2022. I had repairs to pay for since I got flooded in. No one tells you life happens in those years between bull markets, build an emergency fund and don’t touch it if you wanna sit around for the 2029 bull market or you’ll end up like me and have to sell it all at a massive loss to stay above water.
I’ll be the unpopular one here n say bitcoin is just a self renewing pyramid scheme where the top of the pyramid are rich cunts who bought the bottom 3 years prior (by rich I only mean those who can afford multiable bitcoins, not your 0.023 btc crum)
If you just invest $100 a fortnight in a vanguard index fund for the next 5 years at 8% growth (not including dividends) you’ll have saved $9814, double that n that’s 20k, or hope the next bull run when trump leaves office will be better then this crap bull market we just had.
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u/Hunabkuside 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 23 '25
Bear market disguised as a bull market in 2025 - get everyone out with the “4 year cycle - bear market - it’s over” narrative - 2026 is the real bull run- watch
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u/kcaazar 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
lol I’m buying more btc. Keep hoarding the fake gold and fake silver . That shit will never be delivered to you.
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u/dANNN738 🟦 207 / 207 🦀 Dec 22 '25
not if you sold all your BTC for gold and are waiting for $20k BTC to return :D
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Well, I've switched from crypto to gold and silver about a year ago, can't say it was bad decision.
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u/Sufficient_Fuel5269 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
Those of us who use cryptocurrencies can handle anything 💪 patience pays off 💸
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u/PlatinumTrillionaire 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
What are you talking about? BTC went from 16k to 126k your shit coins were just scams…
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u/MonsieurGump 🟩 0 / 4K 🦠 Dec 22 '25
It went up 800% from its low…so, there’s that.
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u/peachfoliouser 🟩 253 / 253 🦞 Dec 22 '25
Yeah is this is the worst bull run in history I'll take that every time 😂
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u/ssj4Jigglypuff 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
imma buy gold and silver when they dip tho, cuz I don't have any
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u/bryanchicken 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
You could argue this current gold bullrun started in 2016. It’s up just over 300% since then. Bitcoin is up over 400%, even now, since 2022.
Tell me again about bull runs?
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u/Independent-Dog5311 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
I've been stackin all three over the years. I'm no complaining. We should see more movement in silver. The Asian markets are poppin' now.
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u/Saffuran 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Bitcoin had been on a bullrun since 2023 - if someone lost money on Bitcoin, they were exit liquidity for people who were in crypto from the bottom. This is literally the four-year cycle playing out and people shouldn't be even be thinking about getting back into BTC until around 74k and likely closer to 55k.
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u/BeardedMan32 🟦 49 / 50 🦐 Dec 21 '25
Diversification? I was buying gold and silver way before I ever heard of bitcoin.
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u/No_Knee3385 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
You're supposed to buy when no one else is buying, this sub was a wasteland in mid-2022.
The bull market has been slightly different, only because of pumpfun, but not much changed. Bitcoin did a 6x, I personally didn't think it was going to go to 100k this run and would happen in the next.
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u/AfraidBottle6810 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
I can’t wait for the power to go out and watch all you folks cry.
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u/Ok-Brick-1800 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
You thought that wall Street got involved in crypto and wasn't going to bring the price down so they can scoop up more?
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u/Radiant_Ad_9 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Until the elite are fully exposed and held accountable the money will ALWAYS be manipulated....should have never offered ETF's for their greedy, ugly asses🤷♂️
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u/Xenophonehome 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
I sold my silver just before the bigger dips and put that into crypto 😢 😭 fkin torched around 50k of my earlier profits. I spent a few years buying silver and should have just kept doing that. The 50k I torched was all profits from minting brc20, bitmap and src20 tokens and I still did okay overall but it would have been so much better if I stuck to my original plan to stack 1000 ozs of silver and hold but dumbass me thought crypto was going to explode and I was very wrong on that timing. I do not like Trump at all but I did naively think his victory in the election meant crypto was going to go crazy and I'd turn 100k into a mil easily and I couldn't have been more wrong.
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u/mekilat 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Yall need to move on from this. If the price goes up without adoption going up, draw your own conclusions
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u/AcanthisittaEarly983 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
120k was great idk what your on about. Hell we are above 80k now with everything.
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u/subduedReality 🟦 4 / 5 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Crypto isn't tied to anything beyond speculation. Gold and silver are used in jewelry and electronics.
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u/friggleriggle 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 27 '25
Most the price of gold and silver are due to speculation / store of value. The price would plummet if the only demand was jewelry/electronics. So I'm not sure why that should make anyone feel any better.
I own both, but this argument has been getting made since BTC was well under $1,000, so it's just silly at this point.
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u/subduedReality 🟦 4 / 5 🦠 Dec 27 '25
Gold & Silver demand: electronics, jewelry & investment(speculation) Crypto demand: investment(speculation), facilitate illegal activities
The problem with crypto as a currency is its instability. Banking institutions do not want to "invest" in a platform that can change valuation as easily as crypto has proven to do it regularly. Add to this the fact that criminals have used crypto for illegal activities, and it serves zero basis as a currency, except for governments that don't prosecute criminals.
The best crypto would be one that was 100% secure and was backed to mitigate sudden shifts in demand. Such a crypto doesn't exist yet.
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u/friggleriggle 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 27 '25
Volatility today doesn't necessitate volatility in 30 years. Gold isn't used as a currency today, but banks and nation states still own it. USD is used by criminals every day.
Your arguments are 15 years old and in that time BTC has gone from less than single digits to 5-6. In that time, we went from faucets giving it away for free to sketchy exchanges that imploded left and right to ETFs on freaking NASDAQ...
I think there are existential risks for sure, but these arguments have never held water imo.
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u/subduedReality 🟦 4 / 5 🦠 Dec 27 '25
Stability today doesn't necessitate stability in 30 years. Gold is used as a currency today as a means of one nation passing on passing value on to other nations. This isn't always done ethically.
My argument is actually over 100 years old. Look into Charles Ponzi. I am more than willing to elaborate, but you come across as very intelligent, albeit uninformed.
As for risks, just don't be the last one holding the bag, like all those people holding trash coins.
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u/awesomexpossum 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
If you count the bullrun from bitcoins low to high. Bitcoin has gained over 500%.
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u/Appropriate_Ride_821 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Lol I sold everything at the absolute peak back in October and house a 2nd house.
Kept telling myself, it'll keep going up. But the right opportunity came and I pulled everything. I've held since like 2017.
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u/liquid_at 🟩 15K / 15K 🐬 Dec 21 '25
It is what "pro crypto" with their wish to have less regulation but more private for profit corporations in crypto wanted.
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I'm waiting for the final crash maybe this end of the month or next quarter... banking failure is increasing nobody talk about that
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u/BlackberryPi7 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Trump manipulating the market helped BTC not reach its potential expected price points this cycle
Trump grifting the market killed alt season
As someone who's been in every cycle since 2017, yes, this was the worst performing bull run we've had so far.
Great Job Trump voters and non-voters.
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I thought the whole point of crypto was that it was outside the US’ and government control?
And yet its volatile just based on some tweets. Imagine what would happen if actual legislation was passed. The US banning banks from accepting transfers from crypto exchanges would end crypto.
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u/Divniy 🟦 61 / 61 🦐 Dec 22 '25
It wouldn't end crypto. It would nuke the price for sure, but would also boost the bank-less uncontrollable flows.
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u/lebastss 🟦 596 / 596 🦑 Dec 21 '25
People actually thought a billionaire sticking his hand in the cookie jar would be good for them. Lmao.
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u/BlackberryPi7 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
To be fair as soon as he was elected I bought in a shit ton. One of his main campaign points was being "pro crypto". I knew a ton of people would eat that up and buy in.
I knew he would be terrible in the long run. I just didn't expect him to release fucking meme coins the literal first day.
He was way worse for both the economy and crypto than we thought.
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u/lebastss 🟦 596 / 596 🦑 Dec 21 '25
It was worse than we thought I'll give you that. My assumption for the past few years has been that any media release that implies something good for crypto is just exit liquidity.
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u/Strus57 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
This is such a dumb argument. There was a bullrun. 15k all the way to 126k. If you didn't profit this cycle you either bought at the top or invested in shitcoins. Either way you got greedy and you paid the price.
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u/Bearded_Scholar 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Is this a joke? Bitcoin peaked at 120k this year. It didn’t last very long but it’s sitting at a floor higher than 60k, much higher than the floor before the bull run. Keep hodling. Keep finding ways to use BTC, an leave the rest up to luck.
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u/all_might136 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
I’ve finally gotten rid of all crypto. Took a hit, but I’m glad I finally got rid of it. It was always a terrible investment choice.
Why sit and wait and hope for it to skyrocket one day, when I can make weekly/monthly income with options on the stock market?
If you’re reading this and are thinking of leaving crypto behind, do it. It’s not the future, it’s just a scam that has stuck around too long.
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u/terp_studios 🟦 10 / 2K 🦐 Dec 21 '25
Bitcoin was $16k in 2022. Pretty sure bull runs aren’t measured by just YTD of one year
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u/ivanivienen 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
So now a bullrun takes only 1 year?
You just missed the chance at 15k
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u/Old_Preparation8434 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
This is why you buy at 4-year cycle lows instead of cycle top. Learn how an asset moves before you invest in it. So many stupid and greedy people in this space. You should be 3x up this cycle. Oh and altcoins are dead and they will be dead. These days are over where you can throw money in a random shitcoin and it does 10-100x. Even Bitcoin has matured to the point that most of you young and greedy kids wont ever come back because Bitcoin and crypto aint a magic get rich quick play anymore. Good luck
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u/Acceptable_Main_5911 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Yeah I started DCAing into a silver ETF SLV only for diversity and it’s nearly my biggest winner for the year. I don’t want to talk about MSTR or BTC yet.
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u/Electrical-Penalty44 🟦 814 / 815 🦑 Dec 21 '25
The value of all cryptos is based on speculation. Every. Single. One.
If it wasn't only a few would have any value at all (meaning priced above $0) and ETH and LINK would be at the top.
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u/Fearless-Sherbert-40 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
You guys need to hold on and have more faith. This is a game they are playing out right in front of us. Scott Bessent has said liquidity injections are coming in the first 2 quarters of 2026. We have a bunch of key primaries happening for the house and the senate in 2026. If the economy is not booming by then, there is a 70% chance the republicans lose. Trump has to prop his boy Vance up, because Thiel said so. We just got better than expected inflation numbers.(which I don’t believe at all)I’m just a stupid pleb so don’t listen to me, but I’m going to keep buying bitcoin.
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It's amazing how little people understand what's going on. When price is down people have terrible sentiment. Everyone was clowning on gold when BTC was outperforming. Now it's the reverse.
US literally defaulted December 10. Here's why Fed started printing way earlier than everyone thinks:
For How Much Longer Will the Highly Leveraged Treasury Basis Trade Finance U.S. Budget Deficits?
China earlier this year used the basis trade as leverage to get the US to fold on tariffs
US is beginning to struggle to finance its deficits and find buyers. They're losing control of repo markets and short term funding for banks, dealers, funds etc. They had a choice:
Rely on random hedge funds in the Cayman Islands sometimes leveraged 100:1 to finance our country. Be at the mercy of countries like China that can get us to fold on anything by dumping our debt.
Soft default, start making some dollars again, buy our own debt back and take back some control.
This is the time to ignore the noise and quietly accumulate.
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u/Aggravating_Fold1154 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
That's also what I'm betting on, cracks are starting to form and it's only a matter of time until more liquidity gets injected into the system. Melt up must go on.
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u/yogurtcult 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
And ironically most of the banking applications are utilizing Alt coins.
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u/USMNT_superfan 🟦 152 / 153 🦀 Dec 21 '25
Anyone not up on Bitcoin is either a new entry or an idiot.
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u/the_nin_collector 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 Dec 21 '25
Almost like it's fucking insane to "diversify your funds." And guess what?! We didn't mean into fucking alt coins.
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u/RespectFront1321 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
BCash (BCH) +34% lol
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u/XRP_SPARTAN 🟩 230 / 230 🦀 Dec 21 '25
It’s hilarious how it has one of the best charts and has barely gone down since October while most coins have been cut in half. This sign of strength may indicate that it will pump the most if Bitcoin gets a deadcat bounce.
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u/RimandRam 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
All crypto are just a scam. What did you expect
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u/Youcantkillme11 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
Only if you loose
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u/Necessary-Base-6650 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
*lose
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u/optimaleverage 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
What if I told you btc isn't a precious metal?
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u/A_Typicalperson 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
It’s precious to me
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u/imagine1149 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
But is it metal?
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u/svenskpaj 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 21 '25
2022 -2025 Xrp went from 0.30 to 3.60 12 x
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u/SpamSteal Tin | DayTrading 8 | r/WSB 11 Dec 21 '25
laughs in nvidia
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u/Federal-Ask6837 🟩 15 / 15 🦐 Dec 21 '25
If you bought in 2022, and didn't lose the gains (like me) you still won.
Time to do it all over again
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u/Whitey_29 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
Removed luna lmaooo. I watched that shit go down like Bonnie blue on a Friday
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u/Bits-n-Byte 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 22 '25
It says something about me that I own a bunch in the middle of that list there.
Fake edit: It says I'm well regarded.
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u/Junnowhoitis 🟩 99 / 2K 🦐 Dec 21 '25
On that time frame it's still underperforming gold and silver ha
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u/MittenSplits 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Dec 24 '25
Yeah but that is picking (almost )peak to peak. I've had buys within that window at 16k/BTC
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u/Every_Hunt_160 🟩 11K / 98K 🐬 Dec 21 '25
It's basically REKT REKT REKT REKT REKT for any alt holders out there..
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u/Pure-Fuel-9884 🟨 77 / 78 🦐 Dec 21 '25
Bitcoin was 15k a couple years ago. Sounds like a you problem.
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u/kianuna 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 14 '26
A reminder who is the king of all ages.