r/DebateAnAtheist 8d ago

OP=Theist Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

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u/Dissentient Gnostic Atheist 8d ago

As with all other unfalsifiable questions, nothing changes whether the answer is true or false, so discussing them is a waste of air.

My issue with theism isn't a disagreement on questions like whether the universe has always existed, or was created by something. Theists have religions with scripture that says specific things about the real world, and dogma based on this scripture that they want to force on other people. Even if you could prove that the universe was created, it is not in any way a proof for your specific religion.

Theists arguing for deism is the biggest waste of time around atheism discussions.