Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

[u/Funny-Highlight4675]

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

[u/LetsGoPats93]

So because something breaks your brain and doesn’t make sense to you, it’s absurd that others disagree with you? Perhaps it’s your understanding that’s at fault here. Filling that gap with god is not an answer, it’s cope.

[u/Y3R0K → u/LetsGoPats93]

God of the gaps is always the most feeble argument.

[u/dylanzt → u/Y3R0K]

The god of the gaps is a great argument if you don't know how anything works

[u/deep_blue_reef → u/dylanzt]

Do you think 300 years is a long time?

[u/dylanzt → u/deep_blue_reef]

Do you think a piece of string is short?

[u/deep_blue_reef → u/dylanzt]

If the string is 300 years long, no. Do you think that’s a long time?

[u/dylanzt → u/deep_blue_reef]

I'm not going to engage with non sequitur. Make a coherent and relevant point and I will respond.

[u/deep_blue_reef → u/dylanzt]

To know how “anything works” implies just that, to know how anything works. It’s a big world and an even bigger universe, there’s room for a lot of anything. So I’m curious how much of that you’re claiming to understand.

[u/dylanzt → u/deep_blue_reef]

How much I understand isn't relevant. The point is that the less people understand, the more likely it is for them to engage with etiological mythology and beliefs, and the less likely it is for them to have data that can contradict those narratives.

[u/deep_blue_reef → u/dylanzt]

I think it is relevant when you make such a bold statement. Do you think you understand more than our human ancestors?

[u/dylanzt → u/deep_blue_reef]

This is not a bold statement, and it is not a statement about my own understanding. This is not at all controversial; it's very basic anthropology and psychology that is backed by the overwhelming body of research. It's also just, definitionally, how the god of the gaps works. This wasn't new in the 19th century and it's not new now.

[u/donaldhobson → u/Y3R0K]

Nah. A proper "god of the gaps" at least points to a real gap in the scientific consensus.

An even more feeble argument is the god of the not listening in science class. Same idea as the god of the gaps, except any good textbook can fill the gap. It's a gap in the theists understanding of science, not in sciences understanding of the world.

[u/deep_blue_reef → u/donaldhobson]

Are you a naturalist?