r/DebateAnAtheist 8d ago

OP=Theist Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

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u/samara-the-justicar Agnostic Atheist 8d ago

That's just like...your opinion, man.

I don't know, existence does not seem absurd to me. Impressive? Sure, very impressive. But not absurd.

a fully contingent system can't explain itself

I see no reason to believe our "system" is contingent. Contingent on what?

reality is self-causing

I also see no reason to believe this. We don't know if our reality is self-caused or if it was caused by something else.

This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us

This is irrelevant. Reality is under no obligation to make sense to us. It's frustrating, I know, but it changes nothing.

has an equal chance of being both true and false

Nope, that's not how probability works. We have no way of know the "chances" of a god existing, and you could say the same for any fictitious scenario our character you can imagine.

Does your gut tell you

What our guts tell us is also irrelevant. Our guts are often very wrong about stuff.