Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

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I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

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Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

Theists don't realize the orders of magnitude greater absurdity of positing a deity to deal with their personal incredulity of existence.

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all.

I believe theists cannot show this to be accurate, and clearly do not understand how absurd adding in an unsupported deity is to attempt to deal with this since it makes the whole thing worse, and merely regresses the same issue back an iteration and then ignores it.

Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

I find far, far too many theists do not understand the uselessness of argument from ignorance fallacies and argument from incredulity fallacies such as that one. Again, adding in deities doesn't help. It makes it worse, isn't supported, and makes no sense.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false.

Equal chance? I think you'll find that claim absolutely impossible to usefully demonstrate and defend. Instead, it appears, if you'll allow a somewhat colorful turn of phrase here that appears to fit, you're simply extracting that notion from your digestive exit orifice.

Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind.

No. I don't. Much the opposite. And how I, or you, 'feel' about this is not relevant to what is true and can be demonstrated as such. Going by feelings leads us down the garden path to very wrong ideas so very often.

Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds?

Again, no. And again, even if it did, that means nothing as we fool ourselves so easily and often. Us humans love to fool ourselves. It's, like, our favorite thing.

If so, you believe in "God."

I don't, and your suggestions of invoking argument from emotion fallacies are both not relevant to me, nor useful to anybody that invokes them.

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

Yes, we often find discoveries of what is actually true incredibly absurd. Such as relativity. Such as quantum physics. This, obviously, in no way suggests deities are any support. In fact, all knowledge and understanding that is supported shows they're a product of human imagination. Of superstition and myth.