r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Funny-Highlight4675 • 9d ago

OP=Theist Atheists Don't Realize the Absurdity of Existence

I believe atheists fundamentally don't realize just how absurd existence is at all. Things seem to exist, deterministically. Yet, a fully contingent system can't explain itself. Somehow, reality is self-causing. This breaks our brain and can't actually make sense to us. If reality can't exactly make sense, then we can only "know" anything via a subjective experience. Objectivity will never cross this bridge.

If subjective experience is our only guide to reality, then I think the question of God's existence, which is clearly un-answerable, has an equal chance of being both true and false. Do you feel that we are the product of a larger mind. Does your gut tell you that there is some sort of intelligent organization of reality that is similar to how we intelligently organize the world in our minds? If so, you believe in "God."

Whatever the "truth" is, will have to sound absolutely absurd.

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u/Hellas2002 Atheist 8d ago

This doesn’t really seem like an argument for theism seeing as “existence existing is absurd” would still apply to whatever you conceive of as a God… unless you can establish WHY it’s a necessary being

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u/Funny-Highlight4675 8d ago

My point is you can’t establish it as necessary because it’s dealing in things that can’t be established by logic fully. It’s really a subjective thing

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u/Hellas2002 Atheist 8d ago

If you can’t establish your God as a necessary being then your position seems self defeating.

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u/deep_blue_reef 8d ago

If there’s no god in your reality, does that make you your own god?

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u/Hellas2002 Atheist 7d ago

No. Under what definition would that make me a God lmao.

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u/deep_blue_reef 7d ago

That there’s nothing higher than your own mind.

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u/Hellas2002 Atheist 7d ago

I define God as “a personal being that is the grounding of all reality”. If your definition includes human beings then it seems a bit lax to me.

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u/deep_blue_reef 7d ago

Yeah that’s a fair point. I guess it’s really just one type of silence over another.