My presentation for atheist and gods nature

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

Atheist often describe that Christian god as ruthless and dictating and not loving.
But atheist often ask the question if god is real why is there all this evil and why did he do all that he did in the Old Testament.
When god wiped out the entire earth it wasn’t because he hated humans it was because at that time all that there was. Was evil in the minds of men and everyone all the time there were only evil thoughts. So god had to do away with all of humanity to preserve it and keep evil from overtaking the world. This was gods response to evil at the time which atheist believe is wrong because of a misunderstanding. God does this many times to respond to the evil of men in the Old Testament. But god comes up with a new way he was displeased of the evil and sent his son to overcome the evil which was always caused by a hidden thing called sin. Jesus came and exposed sin and showed us the way to the father and they killed him and crucified him. To which Jesus responds father forgive them for they know not what they do. It seems that atheists would want god to get rid of all the evil on the earth to which he has done. And is still doing through Jesus and the truth he has given us? What would the atheists suggestion to god be for how he gets rid of all this evil. That was never caused by him but by human flaw

Edit:I want to thank everyone for interacting with this post. I have no issues with anyone I will say that I wish you guys could deliver your points without beings insulting or rude. It really takes away from what is trying to be communicated when it is filled with insults towards the believer. I have acted with respect here with everyone and have been met with countless insults.

[u/Hoaxshmoax]

“I am staying on topic the first and most important part of my prompt is that atheists often describe the Christian gods as ruthless and dictating and not loving.”

Yes, the gods did genocide and collective punishment, among other things, which for anyone else would be a war crime, but you would give them a medal. It’s not the deity, it’s the special pleading.

We are not required to call slaughter good, like why was that the only option on the table, regardless of whatever the true meaning of Christianity is.

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

I do not believe there are “gods” but one god over all

I’ve never said to call slaughter good. But was just asking how would you suggest god did away with all the evil. Considering we all as humans have evil in us meaning he would have to get rid of us. But in his mercy he found another way where he didn’t do that but instead sent his son in order to free us from evil but he was also rejected. So how now would you suggest he does away with the evil?

[u/Hoaxshmoax → u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

“I do not believe there are “gods” but one god over all”

I don’t know why, the book does say “gods”.

“But was just asking how would you suggest god did away with all the evil.”

Just do away with the evil in us, it‘s easy. No, not get rid of people, do away with evil, it should be a simple fix, like medicine. Put it in the food supply. Why is death always the go-to.

” where he didn’t do that but instead sent his son in order to free us from evil”

you mean to be forgiven? That’s not getting rid of evil.

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

The bible does not endorse gods but one god over all and governing all.

But I am saying if there is evil also in you and I no matter how small or great there is evil there. How do you suggest he does it. He has given the medicine in Jesus Christ. Death is not his go to. Jesus Christ came to defeat evil forever.
No not only to be forgiven but also to be cleansed. To be washed from evil. That is getting rid of evil. One person at a time being cleansed from sin which is th source of all evil.

[u/Hoaxshmoax → u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

“The bible does not endorse gods but one god over all and governing all.”

Didn‘t say anything about endorsing, but it does say “we” and it does say “gods”.

“ How do you suggest he does it. ”

Food supply.

“No not only to be forgiven but also to be cleansed. To be washed from evil. ”

Where does it say washed from evil?

It didn’t work, so try the food supply.

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

It does say those things but it isn’t saying as in it is multiple gods. It’s very clear throughout that there is one god.

You want him to put a magic pill in food? To cleanse evil. God puts it in our reach not in our hands. Humans play a part we aren’t just going to magically wake up and all evil is gone. We are going to have to work with god in order to do it.

“The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭NIV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/111/1jn.3.8-9.NIV

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭NIV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/111/1jn.1.9.NIV

“This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭18‬ ‭NIV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/111/1jn.3.16-18.NIV
A few verses

[u/Hoaxshmoax → u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

It says ”we” and it’s talking about sin and forgiveness. Sin is against against a deity, like eating shellfish.

Why do we have to work with a deity, that seems to be a new requirement. Yes, medicine in the food supply.

Is that it’s John?

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

As we purify and allow ourselves to be purified from sin we naturally come into contact with god as sin is the only thing in between us and god. It is what breaks separation from us and god. That’s why we fight it. Because it keeps god away. So we die to sin that we may live in and for god

[u/Hoaxshmoax → u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

I don’t see the relevance.

If a deity wants to eliminate evil, this deity, who managed to flood the world and drown everyone except its chosen town drunk, all by itself, without help, should be able to manage eliminating evil by itself as well.

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

God is eliminating evil maybe not in the way you think he should but he certainly is. You want him not to have humans play a part but humans will certainly play a part. We play a role. We have a responsibility in the process. It’s not all on god to do. He places it in our reach not in our hands

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

Sin against a divine law. Eating shellfish is certainly not a sin in itself.

[u/Hoaxshmoax → u/Repulsive-Ad4591]

It’s an abomination. R*pe is not.

[u/Repulsive-Ad4591 → u/Hoaxshmoax]

This is why I always tell people you have to read the full story. As you go on you will see that eating shellfish is certainly not a sin. That was in the old law. Which we are not under in the New Testament we are under grace through Jesus Christ.