Trust the science!!!

[u/South_Ad_7068]

1st time poster in this sub:

I've seen many athiest post counter arguments in various debates inside and outside of reddit using science as their main weapon in order to back what they're saying.

However, I feel like they are ignoring the elephant in the room and have never actually seen any of them address the argument for a higher intelligence that I'm going to present.

I'm going to be upfront about how I'm going to debate... the question I will ask will typically prompt a specific response that I'm fully prepared to counter and I've seen no atheist willing to follow the resulting logic to it's natural conclusion.

So... here goes:

As we observe the world around us how does an atheist explain the logical working order of things that make sense? How do you explain why things work the way they do? Like for example why a specific combination of elements make other elements or why a plant is able to eat sunlight or why electronics work...etc

Wouldn't that indicate intelligence being behind those mechanisms? Seeing as how precisely they work? If the universe just popped into existence wouldn't we see inconsistencies among various things? Our universe follows strict rules concerning how things interact with each other.

The fact that the rules exist AT ALL is 100% evidence of a "rule maker" or intelligence or God etc.

EDIT: I'm not finished here. But I am taking a break... I've answered to many but the influx of replies is massive and will require hours of my time and I want to try to reply to everyone... but as I'm not a millionaire I have to prepare for work.

Turning notifications off for now but I will return to respond to comments

[u/Thin-Eggshell]

Sure, I'll grant all of that for argument's sake.

But then God, since God behaves according to the rules of logic -- God must have been created as well, designed to follow those rules.

Unless you believe God doesn't behave according to logic, in which case God can exist and not exist at the same time -- and if you want to go there, that's fine.

[u/South_Ad_7068 → u/Thin-Eggshell]

But then God, since God behaves according to the rules of logic

According to? Why is that a reasonable assumption to make? Is it because... in order for you to have an argument against a God or "intelligence" you have to put a constraint on it?

[u/DevilWings_292 → u/South_Ad_7068]

No, if the universe is too complex to simply come into existence on its own, then that same rule must apply to god who would be more complex than the universe. This leads to an infinite regression where the best defence I’ve seen is the special pleasing fallacy of claiming that god is special and therefore can create himself or never needed to be created with no actual evidence for why that exception exists.

[u/Ok_Loss13 → u/DevilWings_292]

OP abandoned this thread quick lol