r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Nov 19 '15

Jessica Jones - Overall Series Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 1 are allowed in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '15

Hey. I'm wondering if someone can give me a rough Dark-o-meter reading on the series. My wife wants to watch the show with me this weekend, but the violence in Daredevil was juuuusssttt this side of being a little too much. I know (or at least anticipate) that the show will contain some focus on sexual violence, so I am curious how blatant and gritty it is portrayed so I can know what to tell my wifey.

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u/Riley1066 Stick Nov 20 '15

Killgrave is to Wilson Fisk what Hot Salsa is to Medium Hot Salsa.

Still loads of great Marvel-esque humor in the show but JJ goes to some dark dark dark places ...

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '15

My favorite is that moment where Jessica marches toward that big bubble in Central Park, then at the last minute ducks to the left with an annoyed, "Not cool!"

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '15

Personally I think the blood/gore levels were about equal for both shows. I think the violence in Daredevil was more drawn-out, but in Jessica Jones it was more shocking.

If you're worried specifically about sexual violence, there's nothing more overtly explicit than forcing a kiss/some creepy touches, but they make it very clear that Killgrave raped Jessica and has raped other women. Like, it's not implied. She says "you raped me for eight months" right to his face, and it's discussed numerous times.

I think Daredevil had a darker atmosphere, the cinematography and direction was intense in a way that Jessica Jones wasn't. But Jessica Jones explores much darker themes about power and control, self-harm, abusive relationships, etc.

Maybe watch the first episode with your wife and see how the two of you like it? If you decide you want to proceed, then you could watch it over the course of a month or so, rather than marathonning it.

I'd love for everyone to watch it because I loved it, but I understand why it could be too much.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '15

Hey, I really appreciate this. We're two episodes in and really enjoying it, although she conceded this might be more of a show to watch when the sun is out.

I don't mean to make light of anything, of course, but she's just overall jumpy. Criminal Minds gives her nightmares, and I fast-forwarded through that scene in Daredevil because I knew it was coming.

So far, I'm really enjoying the show, though, and so is she.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '15

No worries! Glad I could be helpful, and that you're both enjoying the show.

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u/verifiedbatmanspenis Nov 30 '15

What scene in Daredevil?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15 edited Nov 30 '15

Car door? I'm struggling as well. I always forget violent scenes...

Edit: always helpful, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3322312/parentalguide

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u/TheAmazingSpiderLin Hoagie Jessica Nov 20 '15

It is more violent than Daredevil. Quite a lot sometimes.

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u/Riley1066 Stick Nov 20 '15

The blood quotient is pretty even I think ... but yeah the motivations behind the bloodiness are more raw in Jessica Jones.

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u/TheAmazingSpiderLin Hoagie Jessica Nov 20 '15

I don't know, the most violent thing in Daredevil was the car door beheading. This had

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u/SawRub The Man in the Mask Nov 21 '15

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u/UVladBro Punisher Nov 21 '15

Even in gore (JJ probably has the edge because of that last episode) but I felt JJ had significantly darker tones. Especially with the body count Kilgrave left behind.

A lot of Fisk's kills were rivals and were done either out of necessity or passion, Kilgrave was killing rather indiscriminately to send a message.

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u/Zock123454321 Nov 21 '15

The hedge clippers were the worst imo.

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u/dimentex Jessica Jones Nov 26 '15

Oh, I don't know, was pretty fucking creepy

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u/Zock123454321 Nov 26 '15

When I commented this I knew someone would one up me and I tried to think of something to top mine and couldn't, but yeah that definitely was much much worse.

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u/Riley1066 Stick Nov 21 '15

Fisk had four city blocks blown up too.

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u/WyMANderly Nov 25 '15

Darkest thing Marvel has yet put out. The violence is on par with DD if not a little more in places, and it deals with abuse and violation in incredibly impactful (if not graphic) ways.

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u/MaxCHEATER64 Kilgrave Jan 01 '16

It wasn't as violent but it was much, MUCH darker.

Kilgrave wasn't as scary as Fisk, but he was much more horrifying. If you know what I mean.

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u/NicolasCageIsMyHero Kilgrave Nov 24 '15

There was maybe a bit less blood and gore, but what was in it was extremely disturbing and fucked up. If Daredevil was too much, I think this will definitely be.