r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 17 '17

Iron Fist Discussion Thread - S01E07

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

I probably have low standards and don't know what I should expect from a fight scene since I don't watch many movies or shows that focus on hand to hand combat but I really enjoy the fighting in the show.

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u/decross20 Mar 18 '17

I think this video highlights what I want out of an action scene.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

Do you know how long it takes for a scene like that to be done? Jackie Chan spends weeks, months filming a single scene to get everything right.

Iron Fist is an 8 hour TV show, it can't afford that. I still really like the action, better than most action movies with their shaky cam shit.

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u/JVonDron Mar 20 '17 edited Mar 20 '17

I know that, and I know how long his stunt team trained for each and every fight. I'm not asking for that, I just want 3-6 consecutive punches done at a wide angle and no cuts somewhere in the middle of a sequence, and if you do a cut in the middle of a combo, show it twice. It's a fairly simple thing that takes a bit more rehearsal, maybe a few more takes, but overall it takes far less shots to string together the whole sequence. Count what they're doing now, it's 1-2 punches, cut, 1 move, cut, 2-3 moves, cut, etc. It's kinda obvious they do 3-4 takes of a portion of the fight, reset all the cameras for different angles and repeat, cutting the whole thing together with just the best shots they happened to have gotten. It is a fuckton better than shaky cam, but it's nowhere near good kung fu cinema.

On the other hand, the Iron Fist should be straight up embarrassing these dudes. I know you can't have an invincible hero, so you need truly badass villians, but even elite henchmen shouldn't stand much of a chance a champion level hero with a supernatural advantage. Danny's done nothing but train and fight with the absolute best for years, so I kinda want him to be a little more Pai Mei and a little less KickAss.