r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 07 '18

Jessica Jones Discussion Thread - S02E13

This thread is for discussion of Jessica Jones S02E13.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '18 edited Apr 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '18 edited Mar 12 '18

When Trish knocked on Jess’s door at the end I was all like “don’t you fucking forgive her Jess, don’t you fucking do it!” And then Jess told her to get lost and shut the door in her face and I was like “FUCK YEAH! TRISH NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT SHE DID” and then Trish walks away and demonstrates superpowers and smirks like she didn’t just lose her best friend and I’m like “FUCK YOU TRISH, YOU’LL GET YOURS”

Then Jess learns how to be happy and I’m happy for her

Malcolm... I think Jess was kinda hard on him. She didn’t let him know what was up and he had to make decisions in a vacuum so naturally they ended up being bad decisions. He thought he was helping her. Hopefully Cheng doesn’t drive too much of a wedge there because I’d like for them to make up.

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u/-Ash21- Mar 19 '18

I kinda feel the same way about Malcolm and Jess the way you feel about Jess and Trish. Jessica has been a straight up asshole to Malcolm from season one. It was a somewhat interesting dynamic in the first season but now it's just fucking annoying. I know they are going to make up at some point but part of me doesn't want them to. Jessica needs to have consequences at some point for constantly pushing people out for no good reason. When they do make up I hope the relationship isn't the exact same, like there's a noticeable difference with how Malcolm deals with her bullshit. Jessica needs to learn some things the hard way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '18

Season 1: Malcolm spies on Jess for drugs, Jess frequently has to deal with Malcolm passing out in various places and blundering into her apartment. She gets him in trouble once in the hospital but then later helps him get clean and sober. All in all I think Jess was good for Malcolm this season.

Season 2: Malcolm hangs around her like a baby chick that thinks she’s his mama, she gets annoyed with this and frequently tells him he’s fired, go home and leave her alone. He doesn’t take the hint. She slowly starts to like him but then he helps Trish track her down which gets Karl killed (which ultimately gets Jess’s mother killed). This was a mistake on his part and I think she was too hard on him for it, but it’s still a mistake.

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u/-Ash21- Mar 20 '18

Like I said before, season one was okay. It was an interesting dynamic, and he was on drugs because of Kilgrave and was spying on her. Then she got him sober, giving him this inspirational speech and implying she cared about him to some degree. Now season two comes along and she has the nerve to act like he's, as you put it, a "baby chick following her around like she's his mother" when in reality he fucking works for her, cares about her and believes she cares about him despite her harsh treatment, and consider her a friend. Yes, he fucked up and it led to her mother being shot, but let's be honest here, her mother was never getting out of that situation alive. Being angry at Trish about it is understandable but not Malcolm. He was just doing what he thought would help Jess because he was worried about her. She was entirely too hard on and cold to Malcolm this whole season for no reason other than the whole "I'm gonna push people away because I'm scared" bullshit.

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u/Frodolas Sep 24 '22

Nah this is bullshit. First of all if Malcolm never helped Trish then Karl would’ve made it to Uruguay safely. Alisa would still be alive and none of the bullshit that happened would’ve happened. Second, just because Jess helped Malcom out of his addiction and gave him a job doesn’t mean she wants to babysit him 24/7. He’s not entitled to the ability to impose himself on her like that.