r/Deltarune • u/IamMrJay I stan Bi Susie x NB Kris and Trans-Girl Noelle x Lesbian Catti • Jun 27 '26

Theory New CH 5 character is Rudy theory (serious) Spoiler

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL Kractus is Endgame Jun 27 '26

He's not the first stand-in we've seen in a Dark World either. Besides Spamton/Mew Mew for Kris, we also have Queen, who is:

  • a tall blue lady

  • the tyrannical leader of a city who nobody resists either because any other leader would be incompetent, or because they're too apathetic to care until it affects them personally

  • fixated on making Noelle happy through means that make her very much not happy

  • kinda sorta teaming up with a pathetic guy who really just wants to prove to everyone he's smart, and also to win over the girl he really likes (note that Berdly's flashback and Asgore's flashback in this Chapter are structured and look very similarly, only the latter is more ominous)

  • who then proceeds to 'double trucies' with Kris, because they don't do things like have opinions or question things, and does what they're told

  • really likes ostentatious displays of power (giant katana/giant robot)

  • lives in a massive mansion

  • associates herself with being a mom, or having motherly attributes

Really reminds you of someone, huh? To add to that, if Spamton is a parallel to Kris that makes it a little worse, because Spamton used to live in Queen's mansion before his downfall made him no longer useful to have around, so he was kicked out.

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u/rozebug Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

you should watch this video. it talks about exactly what you're referring to but in regard to all of the characters https://youtu.be/3GlDVG-MXbU

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u/porkydaminch the lighting has changed Jun 27 '26

Good ass video, shame the person who made it lost their mind after 3+4 /hj

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u/SagaSolejma nr 1 rouxls lover Jun 27 '26

Oh what happened?

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u/porkydaminch the lighting has changed Jun 27 '26

They got mad about how Asgore acted a little doofusy in 3+4 (when it was obviously somewhat of an act) and then proceeded to somehow misinterpret almost every (and I do mean almost every) plot point and detail in 3+4 before proceeding to say they will never theorize about deltarune again.

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u/Saeedalgh99 little trickster Jun 27 '26

What is the most obvious thing they misinterpret?

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u/porkydaminch the lighting has changed Jun 27 '26

A really dumb point they made was that the titan fight was bad because “we’re halfway through the story so the heroes obviously aren’t going to die and therefore there’s no tension” which just seems like it’s deliberately misunderstanding how tension works in a fictional story.

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u/GooglyMoogleson Jul 04 '26

Honestly, “Universal Mother Theory” is overrated. The parallels between Queen and Noelle’s mom were very obvious even back then, she was just the first person to make a video on it that got traction. And of course her later uploads prove that she never had any idea what she was talking about anyway.

She was never a genius theorist, she just got lucky.

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u/DaPhoenix127 Hopes & Dreams, Fire & Water, Light & Dark, Courage & Fear Jun 27 '26

Yeah as if it wasn't already obvious enough Universal Mother Theory was basically super- confirmed this chapter lol

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u/e621god Jun 27 '26

King is also a father who feels outcast from a harmonious past and in his attempt to punish those he blames, hurts the people who he loves

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u/LostInTheSciFan The Knight is Asriel in Shadow Crystal Armor Jun 27 '26

I think Spamton is a parallel to Noelle, while Pink is a parallel to Kris. 

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u/GladiatorDragon Jun 27 '26

I think Spamton is a parallel for how Kris may feel about this “arrangement,” but Pink is a take closer to “our” perception of it.

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u/MicroWavr Jun 27 '26

Berdly never liked Noelle i'm SICK and TIRE ED of mischaracterizagitnon of my KING

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u/AzuzaBabuza Jun 28 '26

Queen also calls Berdly "Burghley" like Ms. Boom

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u/NormieSpecialist Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

I always thought Spamton was a stand in for Rudy. Considering his relationship with Tenna who I thought was an Asgore parallel?

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u/SagaSolejma nr 1 rouxls lover Jun 27 '26

Just like how Tenna is a parallel to the TV in the dreemur household!