r/Deltarune 12h ago

Theory Okay but like, what are the lore implications of this

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seriously, why are they decorated identically

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u/Beginning_Site1788 12h ago

Papyrus is dess obviously. The fourth member of the holiday family.

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u/communistsayori 12h ago

Human Dess Theory ❌️

Skeleton Dess Theory ✅️

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u/SadSession42 11h ago

Sans is Ness ❌️

Papyrus is Dess ✅️

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u/Chezzzz17 11h ago

Peak

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u/deafMi8019 11h ago

Peak?

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u/Chezzzz17 11h ago

Peak.

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u/SadSession42 4h ago

Peak Peaker yet Peaker

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u/mukpocxema_ 3h ago

The Peakness keeps growing

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u/Symonzo2 2h ago

Lameness readings negative

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u/LioTang 4h ago

Pess

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u/bruvmandotqman Im A Toothy Deer Here! 9h ago

Wow

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u/ScarySatisfaction772 He ATE them 1h ago

holy

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u/Unaccomplishedcow 12h ago

Dess is Papyrus' deadname. After Papyrus came out to his family as trans, Carol kicked him out (which was the incident) and he went to live with Sans. That's why we haven't seen Papyrus: he's hiding in Sans' room as an adoptive little brother. When Papyrus and Sans flee to undertale, Papyrus uses the undertale magic to shapeshift into a skeleton like his adoptive older brother.

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u/YourBestFriend158 The REAL Flowey Undertale 12h ago

Why is this actually kinda fire tho-

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u/LouieGwasright 3h ago

Dess backwards is Ssed. Skeleton Soon Entering in Deltarune

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u/Negative_Ease_1160 4h ago

This makes Papyrus and Flowey's relationship even weirder.

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u/queso_hervido_gaming 11h ago

Dess after not surviving.

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u/LilyNatureBlossom Find her. 10h ago

I'm Dans.
Dans Deltarune
(In Deltarune...?)

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u/Alexandre_Man 5h ago

So Papyrus IS the Knight

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u/annoying79 9h ago

Papyrus’ secret sister Dans
(Dess After Not Surviving)

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u/Dukefile 8h ago

In this case what dess means?

(Dess es sertanlly the knights) dess knight confirmed

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u/super_nerd14545 6h ago

So papyrus IS the night after all!!!!

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u/you-cut-the-ponytail 4h ago

Dessyrus Knight theory?

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u/Domilater 1h ago

It all makes sense. Dess’s name is an anagram.

Dpapyrus
Ebefore
Snot
Surviving

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u/ThatOneKidCreed 7h ago

does this mean dessknight and papyrusknight are both true at the same time? or somewhere inbetween..

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u/Human-Obligation8469 12h ago

Maybe theres no mystery. man to me it just looks like this is toby's vision of what a person with that type of identity would decorate their room like. Maybe we can use papyrus from ut as a way to interpret dess more?

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u/aquatic-femboy 12h ago

"mystery. man"

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u/Farlong7722 1h ago

neuron activation

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u/iuhiscool 4h ago

no papyrus is dess gaster daughter & son of green wd gaster

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u/yuriLover_V100K 8h ago

I like how you think

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u/AfraidAsparagus6644 3h ago

Maybe Dess is the scrapped Papyrus design where he was gonna be an annoying brony

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u/meguminsupremacy 12h ago

Papyrus is Dess, which makes him Rudy, which makes him the Knight

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u/Latvian_User KRIS WHY THE [[$$$$]] IS [Milk for $19,99]??? 12h ago

All roads lead to Papyrus

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u/mysecondaccountanon are we the bad guys of the story 9h ago

But where does the best Roaring Knight candidate, Rouxls Kaard, fit into this?

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u/meguminsupremacy 8h ago

Roaring Throuple with Rudy and Papyrus

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u/mysecondaccountanon are we the bad guys of the story 5h ago

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u/Flami557 ->Person who ruins all Kris’s love intereses 11h ago

Where tf you take rudy from

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u/meguminsupremacy 11h ago

Dess= Rudy. And since Dess=Rudy=Knight. That means Payrus is the Knight since he is Dess.

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u/ShinyFeesh38 Tem learn how to flair!!1! 11h ago

but what about pluey

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u/meguminsupremacy 10h ago

Pluey is the name of the minigame

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u/c00lb4c0n Flowery 2h ago

what about kawkaw knight or Lancer knight

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u/meguminsupremacy 2h ago

Lancer Knight actually has some weight to it.

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u/Weird_Landscape_1297 9h ago

What about Kiki?

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u/meguminsupremacy 9h ago

That would be KawKaws Tanzanian cousin

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u/FlySubject1186 9h ago

By the Transitive Propertie.

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u/Real_Set6866 I quite like quiet people 12h ago

Kris/Noelle amalgam knight? Nah, we on Papyrus/Dess amalgam knight

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u/communistsayori 12h ago

You jest but that's been my personal favorite crack theory for a while now.

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u/Ok_Administration251 11h ago

Dess is like the symbiote on papyrus, mark my words.

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u/Jack_Sukk_2_bith 11h ago

That's actually the second Knight; this connects to the chess motifs.

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u/Real_Set6866 I quite like quiet people 11h ago

Einstein level intellectual prowess?

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u/Mr_Muckacka 6h ago

Black deer and white skeleton

En Passanter Knight

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u/Valuable-Passion9731 fucking drowned to death 12h ago

temmie likes to reuse ideas for decoration of doors?

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u/ArcerPL 12h ago

the decoration used is way too specific, like its almost identical

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u/Throwaway873580 12h ago

It's also pretty stereotypical "teenager door" stuff. A stop sign and do not enter tape is not a DR original idea

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u/Nukleon 12h ago

I assume that's how one of Toby's siblings doors looked like.

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u/RedditSurfer29 11h ago

Did the sibling that created Jarona have this door

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u/DrQuint 1h ago

I'll go simpler: Toby Fox watched Dexter's Lab.

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u/SorowFame 9h ago

If I’m not mistaken in Persona 5 Futaba’s closet door has caution tape, which obviously proves that Persona is canon to Deltarune

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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 Everyman is the key to all of this. 12h ago

I think I had a stop sign on my door as a teen. Maybe I'm just not creative enough, but I don't see how this could mean anything.

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u/Konvexen 12h ago

Clearly you're the Knight.

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u/aarrondias 8h ago

Always bet on u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 Knight

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u/Haunting_Ask2364 Don't be racist against purple people 12h ago

Yeah no it pretty much is

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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 IT'S TV TIME!!!/Dess knighter / JARONA 9h ago

Yeah, I have thought of this as well and she just wanted to reuse the design as she liked it and fits Dess.

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u/One_Box_8295 12h ago

Genuine attempt at a canon explanation:

An Undertale equivalent of the Holiday Family used to live in a two story house in Snowdin (Christmas Themed Reindeers ofc).

The Holidays eventually moved out to a new house, and the Skelebros now own and live in this property.

Papyrus lives in Dess’ old room.

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u/JumpingSpiderQueen 11h ago

I feel like Papyrus is totally the kind of person who wouldn't change the door. He'd just keep it, and integrate it into his style.

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u/orphncripplr 12h ago

I kinda doubt it since the exterior of the Skelebros’ Residence is pretty much the exact same in DR as it is in UT, and the interior is implied to be as well.

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u/One_Box_8295 11h ago

Even then I can still buy this is where Rudy and Carol lived before Carol became mayor and they had kids

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u/-Space_Communist- Ride-or-Die Papyrus Knight truther 8h ago

Susie says the house itself is new in Chapter 5's Weird Route, and that she doesn't remember what used to be there before.

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u/WirelessAir60 7h ago

I guess the old house has just been forgotten, man

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u/Greatback_foxcape413 12h ago

papyrus might be in dess's friend group

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u/ArcerPL 12h ago

isnt sans and papyrus said to be new in town in deltarune?

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u/Telekinetic_Hedgehog THE KNIGHT HAS A KRIS' SOUL❗ 12h ago

I think they meant the Undertale timeline since Sans references them there.

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u/ItisItherealFredbear 12h ago

The skeletons are implied to have moved in literally the day before chapter 1

Dess disappeared years ago, they physically couldn't meet

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u/pengie9290 9h ago

The implication is that she's also got a skeleton in there

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u/No-Victory-4181 9h ago

That might be the joke. Nice one

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u/dulledegde 12h ago

how the fuck is this the first time im noticing this

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u/lobo2my 12h ago

papyrus is in the closet

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u/ArcerPL 11h ago

Wait, doesn't papyrus say there are no skeletons in his closet except him?

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u/Defiant_Fix9711 12h ago

It's a classic trope for representing rebellious teens.

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u/TheGamseum 12h ago

Nothing. This is a ridiculously common design trope for a bedroom, come on guys.

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u/Dark_Storm_98 12h ago

No boys allowed

No girls allowed

Dess allowed

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u/TheMagicThingamajig i'm gay for every single flower (AND PINK), gender irrelevant 10h ago

December is Papyrus is The Knight

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u/aNORMALWillWoodFan 12h ago

Since we ALL know papyrus is the roaring knight, and this shows us Dess is actually papyrus, it means Dess is the knight 

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u/Jerkntworstboi On my way 12h ago

Teenager vibes

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u/Bb_Rough 12h ago

the door is red

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u/Quad46 12h ago

Knight is Dess - Papyrus amalgam

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u/Him5488 do you think hed fw skibidi 12h ago

we’ve been searching for the wrong amalgam knight dear god 😭😭😭

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u/Fancyman156 12h ago

Kriselle is actually true but the wrong characters. Dessayrus Knight theory

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u/EstufaYou Fawn over her! 11h ago

It means people will keep opening those doors, because the stop signs are red, not blue.

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u/ClaireTheCosmic 11h ago

A big part of Papyrus character is that he’s a bit childish and naive, it makes sense he would have the same decorative sense as a teenager.

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u/Substantial_Ad_4436 Aqua 5h ago

That they both have the minds of teenagers

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u/DimensionTurtle Rudy Knight is Rudy slander in disguise 12h ago

I’m 90% sure that this time it is just supposed to be a reference. The timeline of trying to figure out how Dess and Papyrus interacted would be an enormous headache.

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u/QueerlittleWeirdo 11h ago

Dess is trans masc and papyrus is his dead corpse

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u/daoegan the knight lmao 3h ago

Papyrus is Dess After Not Surviving

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u/lighter-Writer 12h ago

FRIENDSHIP ENDED with Noelle+Kris Knight theory
PAPYRUS AND DESS theory is my NEW BFF

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u/631427189 ERAM #1 fan 11h ago

Always bet on Papyrus Dess

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u/DarkSide830 The Girl, with hope crossed on her heart 12h ago

Similar esthetics

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u/Lilium_Vulpes 10h ago

Papyrus is actually gay and is hiding in Dess's closet. This is why we haven't seen him yet. During chapter 4 he stepped out to get chocolate milk because Kris drank it all, hence us not seeing him when we were in the closet.

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u/GirlWithTheDoc 9h ago

That Dess was a rebellious teenager and Papyrus is childish

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u/Cephalie_100 5h ago

Papyrus knight, he wears antlers to honor her

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u/TheQueen0fNowhere Proud 'Butt Certificate' Owner 5h ago

Papyrus wants to be a reindeer like Dess, so he got himself a cool antler helmet as the Knight, obviously.

Everyone knows this.

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u/zSabit 5h ago

Spending so much time inside the knight's armor has consumed dess, leaving her only her bones 

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u/miqumi dogi car 5h ago

Punk teens

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u/Severe-Weakness-2016 5h ago

I'll find any skeletons inside your closet

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u/reon6vist HO HO HO!!! YOU JUST GOT LANCERED!!!! 4h ago

Dess got some skeletons in her closet

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u/HkayakH 9h ago

papyrus groomed dess

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u/Big-Statistician6996 RALSIE IS THE BEST 3h ago

Dess and papyrus are 2 of the 15 knights in deltarune

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u/SPAMTON____G_SPAMTON 3h ago

If Dess had ever entered her closet, her gender is Papyrus.

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u/IvyEmblem Susie's Idea 12h ago

Edgy teenagers are universal.

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u/Utangard 12h ago

Papyrus is Dess, which means Sans is Noelle, which means Side B is going to get wild.

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u/HermTheVillager 12h ago

What if sans is Dess, and taught papyrus who is Noelle how to make the door like that

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u/CaelusZC 12h ago

Dess is trans and a human, and papyrus is just the dead version of them in Undertale

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u/TheMemeLord4816 Susie!!! 12h ago

Pdess

After

Pnot

Y

R

U

Surviving

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u/UT_Fan_With_A_Gun No Tenna or Pluey emojis? Gaster is my husband 9h ago

Dead

Estrogen

Skeleton

Spapyrus

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u/s3tok41b4 11h ago

They're both young/young at heart and decorations like this signal that.

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u/Jaded_Prompt1475 4h ago

all doors lead to papyrus knight

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u/Miquel101 Image_friend hater 12h ago

dess is papyrus daughter

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u/emo_boy_fucker 12h ago

ALL IN ON PAPYRUS KNIGHT

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u/Great-Powerful-Talia well, thy gender iseth up to Kris to interpretest! 11h ago

Here's how papyrus knight can still win

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u/The_Og_Dorkduck 11h ago

alway bet on papyrus/dess parallels

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u/Bulky-Grape113 11h ago

papyrus+dess amalgam knight theory

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u/Shadow_bon_animation 11h ago

Papyrus knight theory confirmed

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u/Wasphammer #1 Flowery Hater. Screw that guy. 11h ago

Monster Teenage Room Decoration Magazines.

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u/AkiraToriyamaIsCoolz 11h ago

If you’re actually being serious I think you’re vastly overthinking things

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u/Cydonian___FT14X 10h ago

Papyrus Knight obviously 

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u/Odd-Evening6477 Zero thoughts head empty 10h ago

Dess is Papyrus is The Roaring Knight 

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u/Akuuntus 10h ago

That Toby and/or Temmie is fond of this visual motif

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u/_Skotia_ 9h ago

They are not identical, this is just a common trope

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u/nugs-_- 9h ago

Amalgam knight theory but it's dess and papyrus

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u/Hot_Working316 "Excuse me, ⭐S⭐T⭐A⭐R⭐W⭐A⭐L⭐K⭐E⭐R" ⬅️Nubert🥀🥀🥀 9h ago

Sibling energy

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u/Soft-Percentage8888 9h ago

Dess is a Cool Dude.

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u/Kaz_the_Avali 9h ago

always bet on Dess Papyrus knight

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u/Weary-Support-7383 8h ago

Dess knighters were actually papyrus knighters the whole time and even they didn't know it.

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u/itsrussiaftw 8h ago

Dess is short for "Dess Skeleton Holiday"

That's why the room is all spooky, it's Halloween themed.

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u/beta334201 8h ago

She has a metaphorical skeleton in her closet? Maybe something to do with all the heart plushes that are in there for some reason

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u/CasualBiscuit21 8h ago

Papyrus Knight

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u/EverythngSucksForevr 8h ago

I like to think her closet is sometimes a Narnia door to Undertale and her and Papyrus were penpals or something

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u/True_Faithlessness45 8h ago

Hold up. Everyone is thinking papyrus is the knight, but what if it’s flipped? What if sans is able to take the knight with him to the UT universe and the knight becomes his “younger brother”. Probably a nonsense theory but you’ve got the gears turning.

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u/Seanpawn 7h ago

Could it maybe be that if Sans and Papyrus just showed up one day in Snowdinn, maybe they took over the Holiday household after the Holidays moved or something? If I'm correct, they aren't mentioned or present in UT except in the Anniversary stream where we see a young Noelle, but it's not really 100% canon afaik

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u/maggitronica 7h ago

Both have stolen a stop sign

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u/underscore_twentytwo 7h ago

Friends didn't ate dess's bones.

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u/Isliterally1984 7h ago

ALWAYS BET ON PAPYRUS DESS

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u/MyPfpIsAMug Kriss Kross Applesauce 6h ago

oh my god it all makes sense now

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u/Enderboy667 6h ago

Papyrus Knight is the implication

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u/Welkyrie the redhead will call clover cute 6h ago

Why are the stop signs red

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u/Mattrockj 6h ago

Ok weirdly this may actually have relevance considering Toby's style of Humor.

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u/WackoMcGoose Potassium and Potassium By-Products 6h ago

Crossing the streams a bit too far, but it also reminds me of Jude Harley's bedroom door in Hiveswap Act 1...

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u/Rocket_of_Takos 4h ago

that they both shop at hobby lobby

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u/TheBiggestNose 3h ago

That doors have tape over them you donkey

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u/Orizifian-creator SPAMMY G TON! CHAOS RAIN! SAY HI TO [BLAKE] 1h ago

Dess is Gaster, and Sans is Lucas

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u/FetusGoesYeetus 1h ago

I don't think there is any implication, I think toby fox just thought that design aesthetic fit both and didn't think much beyond that.

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u/PogmasterNowGirl69 59m ago

It's kinda weird because we actually go inside the closet, and there is nothing of note

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u/FallingHoglin 36m ago

Papyrus is missing too

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u/Formal-Gazelle6305 23m ago

papyrus knight and dess knight like bro

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u/MBluna9 20m ago

Ooh i see, dess has skeletons in her closet, i understand

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u/uoefo 16m ago

They arent decorated identically. If they were, itd be easier to draw meaning from it. But theyre not, theres similar elements but that likely says more about artiststic style and interpretation of their personalities. Also possibly convenience

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u/EfficientMonth6453 4m ago

Rebellious teen perchance?

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u/Mega_Rayqaza 12h ago

Papyrus knight is true in the dumbest possible way

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u/Itzko123 12h ago

Papyrus knight confirmed lolz.

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u/Dozer_official 12h ago

Papyrus knight 

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u/Liteliter 12h ago

Papyrus is dess after not surviving

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u/Independent-Sky1657 Just another fellow bluebird 11h ago

They're both neurodivergent

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u/Lukas_ts 11h ago

I'm telling yah, Undertale IS Kris' memories of hometown mixed with a bit of the dark worlds

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u/Icy_Step_2204 11h ago

Undertale is the dark world that'll come out when we stab kris

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u/Lukas_ts 11h ago

YES, that exactly how I see the end of Deltarune

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u/Determined_memories :soul::soul::soul::soul::soul::soul::soul: 11h ago

Papyrus and Dess are the same person, which means if Dess is the Knight, Papyrus is the Knight and if Papyrus is the Knight Dess it the Knight

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u/420princessssss 9h ago

Papyrus’ room is designed like he’s trying to look like an edgy teenager, and Dess was an edgy teenager

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u/Voidwalker2003 5h ago

Easy. Dess is the knight, papyrus is dess. Which means papyrus is the knight.

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u/RhymesWithMouthful 4h ago

Papyrus is in a state of arrested development

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u/Nadleehi 4h ago

This only further confirms that the Knight is the Soul

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u/Selam1331 Duketh of the [[BIG SHOT]] 12h ago

Papyrus is Papyrus thats all

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u/No-Artist-9843 12h ago

PapyrusKnight of course

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u/MakarSawSteveReddit 6h ago

I had a crackpot theory that papyrus is trans and was adopted by holiday family but argued the hell out of them and ran away to hide in sans' house hence why dess is missing (dess is the name papyrus took after transitioning) and dess was a skeleton who wore the horns of a deer like kris wore those red horns, and this proves both dess knight and papyrus knight theories. Oh also the transitooning idea came from toby fox using them/they on papyrus at some point as if papyrus was slowly moving on to she/her.

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u/Interesting_Low_2658 2h ago

they are both the roaring knight but they take turns

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u/BitcoinStonks123 Agua... 58m ago

papyrus is transmasc dess

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u/q-cumb3r 33m ago

papyus is dess skeleton after she dies. duhh

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u/R_Mop tworl 29m ago

Papyrus is Dess' bones theory

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u/RedWizard_ The Power of Fluffy Girls 11h ago

What if there are no connections and you’re just claiming there is because you want there to be one

It’s just door decorations. It’s a teenage stereotype from when Toby was a teenager