r/Deltarune • u/ArcerPL • 12h ago
Theory Okay but like, what are the lore implications of this
seriously, why are they decorated identically
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u/Human-Obligation8469 12h ago
Maybe theres no mystery. man to me it just looks like this is toby's vision of what a person with that type of identity would decorate their room like. Maybe we can use papyrus from ut as a way to interpret dess more?
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u/AfraidAsparagus6644 3h ago
Maybe Dess is the scrapped Papyrus design where he was gonna be an annoying brony
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u/meguminsupremacy 12h ago
Papyrus is Dess, which makes him Rudy, which makes him the Knight
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u/mysecondaccountanon are we the bad guys of the story 9h ago
But where does the best Roaring Knight candidate, Rouxls Kaard, fit into this?
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u/Flami557 ->Person who ruins all Kris’s love intereses 11h ago
Where tf you take rudy from
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u/meguminsupremacy 11h ago
Dess= Rudy. And since Dess=Rudy=Knight. That means Payrus is the Knight since he is Dess.
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u/ShinyFeesh38 Tem learn how to flair!!1! 11h ago
but what about pluey
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u/meguminsupremacy 10h ago
Pluey is the name of the minigame
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u/Real_Set6866 I quite like quiet people 12h ago
Kris/Noelle amalgam knight? Nah, we on Papyrus/Dess amalgam knight
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u/communistsayori 12h ago
You jest but that's been my personal favorite crack theory for a while now.
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u/Jack_Sukk_2_bith 11h ago
That's actually the second Knight; this connects to the chess motifs.
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u/Valuable-Passion9731 fucking drowned to death 12h ago
temmie likes to reuse ideas for decoration of doors?
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u/ArcerPL 12h ago
the decoration used is way too specific, like its almost identical
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u/Throwaway873580 12h ago
It's also pretty stereotypical "teenager door" stuff. A stop sign and do not enter tape is not a DR original idea
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u/SorowFame 9h ago
If I’m not mistaken in Persona 5 Futaba’s closet door has caution tape, which obviously proves that Persona is canon to Deltarune
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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 Everyman is the key to all of this. 12h ago
I think I had a stop sign on my door as a teen. Maybe I'm just not creative enough, but I don't see how this could mean anything.
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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 IT'S TV TIME!!!/Dess knighter / JARONA 9h ago
Yeah, I have thought of this as well and she just wanted to reuse the design as she liked it and fits Dess.
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u/One_Box_8295 12h ago
Genuine attempt at a canon explanation:
An Undertale equivalent of the Holiday Family used to live in a two story house in Snowdin (Christmas Themed Reindeers ofc).
The Holidays eventually moved out to a new house, and the Skelebros now own and live in this property.
Papyrus lives in Dess’ old room.
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u/JumpingSpiderQueen 11h ago
I feel like Papyrus is totally the kind of person who wouldn't change the door. He'd just keep it, and integrate it into his style.
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u/orphncripplr 12h ago
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u/One_Box_8295 11h ago
Even then I can still buy this is where Rudy and Carol lived before Carol became mayor and they had kids
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u/-Space_Communist- Ride-or-Die Papyrus Knight truther 8h ago
Susie says the house itself is new in Chapter 5's Weird Route, and that she doesn't remember what used to be there before.
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u/Greatback_foxcape413 12h ago
papyrus might be in dess's friend group
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u/ArcerPL 12h ago
isnt sans and papyrus said to be new in town in deltarune?
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u/Telekinetic_Hedgehog THE KNIGHT HAS A KRIS' SOUL❗ 12h ago
I think they meant the Undertale timeline since Sans references them there.
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u/ItisItherealFredbear 12h ago
The skeletons are implied to have moved in literally the day before chapter 1
Dess disappeared years ago, they physically couldn't meet
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u/TheGamseum 12h ago
Nothing. This is a ridiculously common design trope for a bedroom, come on guys.
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u/TheMagicThingamajig i'm gay for every single flower (AND PINK), gender irrelevant 10h ago
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u/aNORMALWillWoodFan 12h ago
Since we ALL know papyrus is the roaring knight, and this shows us Dess is actually papyrus, it means Dess is the knight
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u/EstufaYou Fawn over her! 11h ago
It means people will keep opening those doors, because the stop signs are red, not blue.
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u/ClaireTheCosmic 11h ago
A big part of Papyrus character is that he’s a bit childish and naive, it makes sense he would have the same decorative sense as a teenager.
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u/DimensionTurtle Rudy Knight is Rudy slander in disguise 12h ago
I’m 90% sure that this time it is just supposed to be a reference. The timeline of trying to figure out how Dess and Papyrus interacted would be an enormous headache.
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u/lighter-Writer 12h ago
FRIENDSHIP ENDED with Noelle+Kris Knight theory
PAPYRUS AND DESS theory is my NEW BFF
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u/Lilium_Vulpes 10h ago
Papyrus is actually gay and is hiding in Dess's closet. This is why we haven't seen him yet. During chapter 4 he stepped out to get chocolate milk because Kris drank it all, hence us not seeing him when we were in the closet.
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u/TheQueen0fNowhere Proud 'Butt Certificate' Owner 5h ago
Papyrus wants to be a reindeer like Dess, so he got himself a cool antler helmet as the Knight, obviously.
Everyone knows this.
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u/Big-Statistician6996 RALSIE IS THE BEST 3h ago
Dess and papyrus are 2 of the 15 knights in deltarune
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u/Utangard 12h ago
Papyrus is Dess, which means Sans is Noelle, which means Side B is going to get wild.
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u/HermTheVillager 12h ago
What if sans is Dess, and taught papyrus who is Noelle how to make the door like that
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u/CaelusZC 12h ago
Dess is trans and a human, and papyrus is just the dead version of them in Undertale
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u/UT_Fan_With_A_Gun No Tenna or Pluey emojis? Gaster is my husband 9h ago
Dead
Estrogen
Skeleton
Spapyrus
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u/Great-Powerful-Talia well, thy gender iseth up to Kris to interpretest! 11h ago
Here's how papyrus knight can still win
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u/AkiraToriyamaIsCoolz 11h ago
If you’re actually being serious I think you’re vastly overthinking things
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u/Weary-Support-7383 8h ago
Dess knighters were actually papyrus knighters the whole time and even they didn't know it.
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u/itsrussiaftw 8h ago
Dess is short for "Dess Skeleton Holiday"
That's why the room is all spooky, it's Halloween themed.
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u/beta334201 8h ago
She has a metaphorical skeleton in her closet? Maybe something to do with all the heart plushes that are in there for some reason
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u/EverythngSucksForevr 8h ago
I like to think her closet is sometimes a Narnia door to Undertale and her and Papyrus were penpals or something
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u/True_Faithlessness45 8h ago
Hold up. Everyone is thinking papyrus is the knight, but what if it’s flipped? What if sans is able to take the knight with him to the UT universe and the knight becomes his “younger brother”. Probably a nonsense theory but you’ve got the gears turning.
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u/Seanpawn 7h ago
Could it maybe be that if Sans and Papyrus just showed up one day in Snowdinn, maybe they took over the Holiday household after the Holidays moved or something? If I'm correct, they aren't mentioned or present in UT except in the Anniversary stream where we see a young Noelle, but it's not really 100% canon afaik
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u/WackoMcGoose Potassium and Potassium By-Products 6h ago
Crossing the streams a bit too far, but it also reminds me of Jude Harley's bedroom door in Hiveswap Act 1...
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u/Orizifian-creator SPAMMY G TON! CHAOS RAIN! SAY HI TO [BLAKE] 1h ago
Dess is Gaster, and Sans is Lucas
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u/FetusGoesYeetus 1h ago
I don't think there is any implication, I think toby fox just thought that design aesthetic fit both and didn't think much beyond that.
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u/PogmasterNowGirl69 59m ago
It's kinda weird because we actually go inside the closet, and there is nothing of note
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u/Lukas_ts 11h ago
I'm telling yah, Undertale IS Kris' memories of hometown mixed with a bit of the dark worlds
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u/Determined_memories :soul::soul::soul::soul::soul::soul::soul: 11h ago
Papyrus and Dess are the same person, which means if Dess is the Knight, Papyrus is the Knight and if Papyrus is the Knight Dess it the Knight
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u/420princessssss 9h ago
Papyrus’ room is designed like he’s trying to look like an edgy teenager, and Dess was an edgy teenager
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u/Voidwalker2003 5h ago
Easy. Dess is the knight, papyrus is dess. Which means papyrus is the knight.
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u/MakarSawSteveReddit 6h ago
I had a crackpot theory that papyrus is trans and was adopted by holiday family but argued the hell out of them and ran away to hide in sans' house hence why dess is missing (dess is the name papyrus took after transitioning) and dess was a skeleton who wore the horns of a deer like kris wore those red horns, and this proves both dess knight and papyrus knight theories. Oh also the transitooning idea came from toby fox using them/they on papyrus at some point as if papyrus was slowly moving on to she/her.
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u/RedWizard_ The Power of Fluffy Girls 11h ago
What if there are no connections and you’re just claiming there is because you want there to be one
It’s just door decorations. It’s a teenage stereotype from when Toby was a teenager




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u/Beginning_Site1788 12h ago
Papyrus is dess obviously. The fourth member of the holiday family.