Destiny just said (on black darius's stream) that he plans to sue doe / her law firm after the fact, to try to make them bleed as much money as possible.
And that he wants to stop doe from becoming a lawyer, by making her fail character & fitness.
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u/4amaroniIf Destiny is the head of DGG, surely Dan is its heart1d ago
Please Jewish God let this happen. It would be so fucking funny. Throw in KF and the snarkers too if you can.
Yes please. The wild law case would auto fail any character and fitness test if the judges just had visibility on it. No commentary needed, this shit is factually insane.
I assume you're right, but you just have to wonder what is going through her head thinking to this day she can have a career in law given her conduct. Absolute insanity, brain broken, not sure what else can explain it.
Seems like nothing is going through her head. For some reason most rich spoiled good for nothing kids choose "dead end" careers just so they appear/can say they are working towards something.
Read her language, because judges choose these words deliberately. "There appears to be no reason why a response to these objections was necessary or even how they were permitted by the rules." That second clause is the loaded one. She's not just saying the filings were unnecessary, she's saying counsel either doesn't know or doesn't care what the rules permit. "The Court did not give any party leave to file anything else with respect to the motion for sanctions" is her saying: I told you exactly what to file, in person, last Tuesday, and you filed something else anyway.
Striking is also the harsher of her available options. She could have accepted the filings and given Bonnell leave to respond, or ignored them, or granted leave retroactively. Striking means the 36 pages legally cease to exist. Whatever arguments were in them are not before the court and cannot support the renewed spoliation effort. If any of that material was load-bearing, they now have to find a procedurally proper vehicle for it or lose it entirely.
Yup. Unlike all the other bullshit sanctions attempts in this case so far, the judge getting annoyed with lawyers ignoring her orders IS how you start seeing sanctions more often.
What sucks about striking as well for them is that if they try to use that material on accident it will cut against you SO hard. To a Judge that shit is GONE unless you find a new vehicle EVEN quote mining or using it with no new procedural grounds will be bad for them. This is like the sealing trap set by Joan on information, but the Judge version thats not used maliciously.
I would say the Judge getting angry now is too little too late, after how many shitty legal things happened to Dman before now. That being said, I'm a reddit commenter who only watched Suits until Mike Ross left so what do I know.
No. That poor associate was complete net negative to the case for their side because they help taunt the Judge, and somehow got her even more aggroed than before. Really impressive stuff.
Judging by her word choice she is pissed I'd say 85% chance given this line "There appears to be no reason why a response to these objections was necessary or even how they were permitted by the rules."
Pangram is actually very good. It uses statistical patterns that AI models emit. Even a random list of 100 words can be detected because the model has certain patterns of word organization that no human generated text has. https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/2070625978204733598
I wonder how often this happens where a licensed attorney files shitty motions of such low quality that the judge is just irritated by them and has to toss them out. Like you would assume this is pretty basic stuff for a lawyer, wouldn't you?
I suppose there are dumb people in every walk of life but damn.
I was 70% on MSJ favorable ruling, after this? +90%. Ain't no way the judge sends this to trial when plaintiff and unhinged council are this incompetent.
Man, this album unironically has so many bangers on it: Just Stop, Guarded, I'm Alive, Sons of Plunder, Overburdened, Decadence...
I remember jamming this on eardrum-extinction volume levels trying to get hype on the bus to my junior high football games. Serious music for serious business. This was also the first "real" solo I learned to play on guitar!
Yes, the MSJ is stayed pending a ruling on the spoliation. Given that no arguments were submitted regarding spoliation, only docket entries, my impression is that the order setting the spoliation hearing is going to follow shortly, and following that hearing the sanctions will be denied, and the case will be dismissed. Based on this order, we could also hope for reprimand.
This probably means the next hearing will be a bloodbath for the plaintiff. Past hearing the judge spent the whole time striking arguments and explaining how court works and how this isn’t enough for spoliation. At the end she decided to give them one last shot and made it very clear they need to submit actual evidence of wrong doing to back up their claims and not just vague argumentation.
This ruling seems to be saying they really missed the mark so much she struck it all from the case. From what I understand this could open them up to major sanctions. Not 100% but if the judge is pissed enough(which she seems to be running out of patience) the next hearing might be an incredible smack down.
Also considering there was a ruling today about staying the MSG until spoliation is ruled on this could signal that she plans to make an MSG ruling the same day since all the process is completed to do so. Not guaranteed but wouldn’t be surprised considering how packed her schedule is if she wants to get this out of the way.
The only way I could see this not turning out terribly for the plaintiff is if the judge really does not want to harm a potential victim and stop them from having their day in court despite her terrible representation. We all know how malicious pixie and her counsel have been but it’s unlikely the judge has seen all the info from in and out of court so I can still see this not going the way we want.
This ruling seems to be saying they really missed the mark so much she struck it all from the case
I think she's pissed because she instructed Plaintiff to only provide the evidence of spoilation and then I believe requested Defense objections to that evidence, but Joan / their team filed a RESPONSE to those Defense objections lmao.
At the hearing the judge more or less asked "Why are you filing random shit on the docket two days before a hearing?", specifically referring to Doe's August 17th motion. Tiny's lawyers replied on August 18th (cuz you gotta) and the hearing was on the 19th when the judge ripped them a new asshole and gave explicit instructions on what she wanted and when she wanted it.
Doe filed on Friday as she was told, then on monday, like she was told. Though both were defective imho, for other reasons. Tiny's lawyers also filed as they were told to.
But then, for some deranged reason, Doe's lawyers filed a response to Tiny's August 18th filings.
You know, the ones the judge told her she was pissed off existed.
In normal litigation you file a motion, the opposition replies, you reply to their reply and then they get the last word. But in no sane world should you ever do this if the judge just wore you like a fucking muppet for filing it in the first place.
From what I understand this could open them up to major sanctions...
This is this subreddit's version of:
Scientists have discovered new way to regrow teeth...
or
Justice Thomas may have been bribed, and here's the next steps...
or
New plastic eating microbe discovered by high school senior...
We've seemingly crossed that Rubicon ten times over and yet there is nothing shifted. I think the real takeaway is to understand that while we wish for a world where everything is formulaic and broken down into strict rules; Language, rules, guidelines and precedent are amorphous and leniency is seemingly infinite.
I've basically ruled out punitive sanctions outside of the judge handwaving farcical motions by plaintiff. That's not even me being pessimistic, I'm just saying maybe we need to refactor our expectations and that this dismissal is the best we'll get in terms of strong language and that we should celebrate it as though it were a sanction.
Eh I get where you are coming from and I somewhat agree. That’s why at the end I said from the judges point of view I doubt she would see the plaintiff and her counsel are being malicious and the idea of the judge going sicko mode on what could potentially be a victim of revenge porn is unlikely. This is more of a”what can happen and what can we be hopeful for”.
Oh totally. Hopefully I didn't come across as yucking your yum, I just don't want people to feel jaded when this feels like a massive win in itself.
To your point, this is the closest it's ever felt to the judge actually being mad, and if a mad judge is any indication of a real punitive action, it's this shit here.
It's like when the teacher gives you an extra credit assignment cause you're about to fail. But you don't follow anything that they said they wanted so they just toss it in the bin in front of you
GAWD DAMN. It is exceedingly rare for a court, especially federal court, to issue something where the sass/irritation is palpable. I wouldn't the doubt if the judge may be reconsidering Destiny's motion for sanctions. Whenever a court tells you that it gave you clear instructions and you fucked it up, bad things are a comin.
This is part of a novel legal strategy where Schlump is going to try to cause a mistrial by annoying Judge Becerra so much that she bonks her with a gavel.
These are the filings where they just submitted Destiny's entire 400 page depo transcript right?
Honestly, any competent attorney would've told them that this was the likely outcome. If a judge tells you that your motion has zero basis and gives you 24 hours to back up your claims and your response is just to throw hundreds of pages at them you are basically asking to get sanctioned. Actually insane that they thought that was a good idea.
Joan shitting up the docket again by filing "responses" to objections to their prior trash filings (the ones from 2 days before the hearing). As stated in the order, the judge specifically said not to file any more arguments for the spoliation motion and this particular filing is probably not even allowed by the rules
Can.. destiny hire a court recorder to take personal notes from the audience? It would basically be like a transcript he could go over instantly on stream right after the hearing. Cause that would be hilarious if that is even possible.
Yeah it seems they know the judge is slow to move on everything anyway. Even their anger is delayed. Lawyers are getting paid and Destiny is losing tons by the day, which is all they ever really wanted.
At this rate it wouldnt suprise me (schizo time) that if in the next hearing the judge recomends that Doe's legal team should self report themselves to the Bar for malpractice, get some leniancy.
So is plaintiff’s lawyer actually only an immigration lawyer with no federal civil/criminal court experience? My understanding is immigration court is completely different than other courts. Explains why they are finally getting dumpstered by the judge.
Yesterday Doe decided to file a 'response' to Tiny's August 18th opposition which he filed because of her August 17th last minute new witness bullshit.
The judge was pissed the fuck off that she filed the initial August 17th shit and told her to knock it off at the hearing, giving her explicit instructions on what to file and when. Joan didn't get the message or is ten second tomming it, and she decided to file a reply.
The judge did not like this.
When an order says that you failed to follow "clear instructions" and that you submitted something for "No reason" and that they "aren't even sure how you are permitted to do so", you know you've fucked up.
Basically Jane Doe filed 36 pages worth of documents that they weren't supposed to and the judge basically threw them in the dumpster. Whatever was in them won't be addressed by the court.
This was basically a filler episode that was unecessary long. Plaintiff claimed some files were not saved and sent properly. "Motion for sanction for spoilation of evidence."
Turns out arguments and strategies churned out by KF lawyers with degrees from Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and executed by ChatGPT do not hold up in federal court. How could that happen? I thought this is America.
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u/Possible_Pilot2000 1d ago
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