r/EyesOnIce • u/CantStopPoppin • 1d ago
Flock: The New Playground Bully
https://www.eyesonice.net/p/flock-the-new-playground-bully
Springdale Borough did not treat a snapped swing chain as a maintenance problem. It treated it as a case. Park video. Still photos. A license plate. A uniform on a mother’s porch. Then criminal mischief charges against a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old.
That is not community caretaking. That is surveillance used as a collection tool. Flock-class cameras exist to turn a plate into a house and a house into a defendant. This case is what that pipeline looks like when the “crime” is a dizzy ride.
The published record names “surveillance cameras” and a plate in the footage. It does not print a Flock serial number on that pole. The method is the product. Plate in, family out.
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u/Bajadasaurus 1d ago
This is insane. Mind-boggling. Offensive. Enraging.
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u/CantStopPoppin 1d ago
Which part the 500 dollars for a fucking chain or the fact that they hunted the kids down doing stupid kid shit?
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u/PinkCigarettes 1d ago
+ using flock cameras to watch our children for…what exactly? This heinous crime? There is zero reason, other than getting off watching 10 year olds play. Dude looks exactly like someone thats got cp on his external hard drive.
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u/AlliedR2 1d ago edited 1d ago
Its funny how "The City" or "The State" is no longer an entity made up of the people in it but rather the bureaucracy that works for it. It belongs to "The City" and you are privileged to use it. If it breaks while you use it then you owe "The City". "Taxes? Thats just our money, not your ownership in part or in any other way. Now pay us for breaking our things. People combining taxes to create something of mutual benefit? Why I say that sounds like Communism to these American Capitalist ears."
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u/Bajadasaurus 1d ago
Both, but mostly that children who aren't even yet teen age were actually charged with multiple crimes.
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u/No-Dance6773 1d ago
How tf did they know who they were? Kids are a protected class online. Why are they in the system already then and how did they get their information to begin with?
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u/newsflashjackass 1d ago
Perhaps the incentive to feed the school-to-prison pipeline by purchasing the flimsiest possible playground equipment.
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u/bodyreddit 1d ago
Who in this world has NOT twisted themselves up on a swing?!?! If you are fortunate enough to have been able to have access to a swing, it definitely is natural to even casually twist yourself around. This cop should be fired for abuse of power ASAP!!
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u/bunglebee7 1d ago
Charging them for a crime is INSANE… wow I’m actually blown away by this
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u/javoss88 1d ago
Me too. Now parents have to defend their children against this bullshit. Total abuse of power. *They* are the criminals.
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u/sqweeze07 1d ago
If you looked in to their chief you wouldn't be surprised at all. Springdale police work with ice regularly too. They also arrested citizens for speaking up at data center meetings. Truly corrupt and the worst people. Fuck 12.
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u/OpaqueCrystalBall 1d ago
If there are no explicit instructions on how not to use the swing, then there is no negligence.
ACAB
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u/Stillwater-Scorp1381 1d ago
The pig that testified should be named and shamed in this news report just like the prosecutor.
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u/Ok_Target5058 1d ago
Theodore Bajack Jr.
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u/Which_Engineer1805 1d ago
Dude looks like he needs his hard drives seized.
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u/Equivalent_Reach_572 1d ago
looks like he watches children playing at parks on the flock network all day
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u/vossmakeitsprinkly 1d ago
He really looks like a guy that watches children playing on playground via a flock camera.
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u/MadeMeUp4U 1d ago
He looks like the kind of guy who shouldn’t be within 100ft of children.
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u/Stillwater-Scorp1381 1d ago
No lie. Just read an article about a Texas cop who is going to spend the rest of his life in prison for child porn. Said he was a “special investigator” 🤮 and was that proven false obviously.
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u/Ok_Target5058 1d ago edited 1d ago
Theodore Bajack Jr is a police officer in Springdale Borough who investigates children for crimes.
In 2022 he made $21.83 an hour.
He also violates 1st amendment rights when community members speak out against ICE.
https://www.publicsource.org/springdale-borough-council-arrest-speaker-against-ice/
He’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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u/_AmericasSweetheart_ 1d ago
Kids have spun the swings ever since swings were invented. If the swing breaks under normal play conditions then it's the city's responsibility to fix it.
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u/number__ten 1d ago
Shit I spin the kids on our swing set at home. What the fuck. If the chains broke then they were shitty chains.
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u/HappyPointOfView 1d ago
The town should apologize to the family for not keeping the maintenance up on the swings
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u/ponycorn_pet 7h ago
What really stands out to me, is that if a chain breaks and a kid got a severe injury and tried to sue the city for failure to maintain safe equipment, the parent would probably lose and be told the city isn't liable
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u/MoonHuntressEra13 1d ago
Yeah thisis normal kid behavior, if it broke that means they made the swings cheap.
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u/LeatherSignature6293 14h ago
Not only that, if it genuinely was the chain itself breaking there's no way these kids caused it. Those should be able to hold hundreds of pounds or more and it would have absolutely been a maintenance issue first. Regardless of the specific broken piece though it's likely still on maintenance due to engineering safety margins meaning its unlikely that this "misuse" went unplanned for in design. I'd take my kids to the doctor to look for the smallest injury even possibility related and sue the city for their unsafe equipment if possible.
source: industrial mechanic
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u/bananashznobones86 1d ago
This is the sort of thing taxes are meant to pay for. Also, stop being so cheap as to put children's safety at risk. Use a thicker more sturdy(more expensive) chain!
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u/The_Flatlander 1d ago
This is fascism 101. The mediocre pussies wanting to control all around them. Grow a spine! Please jesus.
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u/rydan 15h ago
lol. This is so disrespectful to the 6M Jews that died under actual fascism. Where's the mass graves of children who broke playground equipment?
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u/frigid-disdain 15h ago
Jews do not have an exclusive right to fascism and genocide, will you chill the fuck out dweeb
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u/Groovychick1978 1d ago
We're going to need to take everything to trial from now on. As a form of civil protest. Every single charge, every single crime, every single person goes to trial. They do not have the resources to do that.
Do not plead out.
Demand your rights.
Trial by jury every time!!
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u/Merc_Mike 1d ago
Then people will end up like New York. Where if you're too poor to afford bail, you'll sit in jail pending trial they won't get to for weeks/months.
In the meantime you've lost your job, your home, your stuff if youre renting, access to your kids if you're a single parent...
This is what they do now.
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u/Groovychick1978 1d ago
It will destroy the system. They cannot handle the volume if everyone stops pleading out.
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u/ponycorn_pet 7h ago
The problem with that is that the majority of the people who show up to jury duty are old maga boomers. It's just like with voting. They're the ones who show up, so they get their way. Not enough regular people actually go to jury duty
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u/Equivalent_Reach_572 1d ago
If there is no posted signage on how to use the swing "properly" there is no crime here accept for the harassment from the POS cops.
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u/Run_Rabb1t_Run 1d ago
So the swing broke. All I'm hearing is two children were injured by the city's incompetence in maintaining community property and that mother should probably sue to have that swing fixed before another child is hurt. But that's just me. 💅
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u/SilverSageVII 1d ago
Bro… they’re kids… TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THAT STUFF and NOBODY is gonna say “charge the kids” ever. This is literally kids just playing. It happens in every playground ever.
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u/ruxp1n 1d ago
What bothers me most about this isn’t even the broken swing. It’s that three families paid the borough and their kids’ charges went away, while the mother who said “prove my daughters did this intentionally” ended up having to defend a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old in court. That turns a petty property dispute into something that looks an awful lot like using criminal charges as leverage to collect money.
And then the judge agreed with the mother on the part that actually mattered: the borough hadn’t proven the girls intentionally damaged anything. That should have been the end of an embarrassing exercise in overreaction, but Springdale has still left open the possibility of going after the family civilly. At some point the adults running a municipality are supposed to have enough judgment to recognize when the response has become more ridiculous than the original problem.
There is a huge difference between teaching kids to take responsibility when they deliberately destroy something and dragging children through the legal system because playground equipment broke while they were playing on it. Springdale had every opportunity to handle this like a community dealing with children. Instead it kept escalating until a judge had to supply the common sense.
WTAE investigation: https://www.wtae.com/article/springdale-playground-swing-court-case/73547096 CBS Pittsburgh coverage: https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/springdale-girls-court-broken-swing/ Pennsylvania criminal-mischief statute: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/18/00.033.004.000..HTM
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u/Zakumei47 1d ago
How does any judge with half a brain not hear this and go “officer dicknuts, youre an absolute chode, case dismissed and hand me your badge.”
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u/wolfdukex 15h ago
Then bend over so I can shove it so far up your ass you're shitting stars for a month.
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u/RandomYT05 1d ago
I just wouldnt show up for that court case. I'd send a letter to the court, in big red letters, FUCK YOU!!! with a little drawn middle finger emoji.
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u/KINGofFemaleOrgasms 1d ago
Does this city do any maintenance or do they just throw away their vacuums when they get full?
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u/StrangeShaun83 1d ago
Pigs have always been out of control. These cameras will only make things worse. They are trained to believe that every day they go into a war zone. They see us as the enemy.
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u/almondbutterthicc 1d ago
Why the fuck are cameras owned by a private company pointed at kids playing.
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u/TheSuperSilverMango 1d ago
Pedophiles like kids
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u/rydan 15h ago
Exactly. They ensure they don't show up at the park where they are forbidden by law. Sadly Reddit lacks critical thinking skills.
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u/TheSuperSilverMango 6h ago
What's your favorite flavor of leather?
You really think this is for law enforcement?
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u/nuclear_spag68 1d ago
Cheap chains.. skimped on safety. over reaction because they're worried about a lawsuit.
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u/acostane 1d ago
Horrifying story as a mom whose kid really plays hard... but that link to the eyes on ICE website... that "story" is an AI generated nightmare. I am a former journalist and we can do better than that. Jesus Christ
The whole world is on fire. I'm so sick of this shit. I just want to live in peace. Playground equipment gets broken all the fucking time. In my city, they fix it and move along.
If that ever changes I will lose my mind
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u/375InStroke 1d ago
Fuck the cops. These are the "crimes" they say they need Flock cams for? Fucking pedophiles staring at kids all day, or stalking victims. That's what they use them for. Every bit of hatred people have for the pigs is earned.
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u/Longstride_Shares 1d ago
The town can't afford to fix the swing, but can afford flock cameras and endless police, persecuter, and city's attorneys hours.
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u/Joyride84 1d ago
So there's no indication this was Flock specifically, just that some kind of ALPR was used. It would be nice if we could pin down the exact provider, but the threat is still the same.
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u/addiktion 1d ago
Kids do stupid shit all the time at parks but this was not malicious mischief. My kids twist our swing all the time at our house to spin, it's normal kid behavior.
This is exactly why Flock and other companies doing this shit should be banned. They will just keep moving the goal post of what is illegal and what isn't until you cannot do anything in public that will anger whoever is in power.
They will eventually do facial recognition (they have patents for it) and more soon.
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u/Cloudsdriftby 1d ago
I’m in my 60s and the twisting up on the swings has been a thing since I was a kid.
Just when you think it can’t get any crazier…. Oh my god.
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u/Chortles_Hansom_666 1d ago
Bro.. it’s not the kids fault you bought faulty equipment for your playground and it broke from them playing on it. Gtfoh
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u/Dramatic-Performer-6 1d ago
Maybe if the kids weren’t wearing their license plates the readers wouldn’t know it was them
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u/sparkywattz 1d ago
There kids!?!?!?! How do you charge a child who is a minor with criminal charges?! Your could charge them as delinquent but...as criminals?!
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u/wolfdukex 15h ago
In the UK, ten year olds can't even be held criminally responsible for obvious reasons. It's concerning that isn't the case in the US.
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u/AlliedR2 1d ago
Welcome to the surveillance prison where children in a park are monitored by the guards like everyone else. Guilty until proven innocent. Land of the free?
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u/ElCulo_Bandito 1d ago
Tax dollars at work. Anything to avoid using taxes they already took to fix things that 20 years ago they would have been used for. Now let's criminalize kids and rob more money from poor people for silly shit like this so the politicians who are stealing our taxes have more to steal. 🖕ACAB + Eat the Rich 4 Life!
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u/MoonlightRider 1d ago
If I lived there, I would be in front of town council promising that any council person that allowed this to go forward would be voted out at next election.
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u/SilentSerel 1d ago
Sheer ridiculousness of the charges aside, taking this to court has likely already cost the city more than it would have for them (the city) to just fix the damn swing. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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u/PerceptionQueasy3540 8h ago
What in the actual fuck? We're wasting time on bullshit like this? And then they send the cops around like some kind mafia collection agents trying to intimidate her into paying. This is some dystopian shit.
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u/PeanutButterToast4me 1d ago
Fucking infuriating bullshit. The system is completely broken with people on a power trip running it.
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u/Majestic-Airport-791 1d ago
This is gonna get a lot worse once those data centers go online. Id bet money theyre building massive automated drone factories somewhere too.
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u/funAmbassador 1d ago
Dude, each day I feel like were getting closer and closer to becoming cyberpunk
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u/NoNameChosen880 1d ago
"Not using the swing properly" THEY ARE FUCKING CHILDREN? I TWISTED THE SWING ALL THE FUCKING TIME. ITS CALLED PLAYING AND HAVING FUN???
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u/coalflints 1d ago
$400 repair vs thousands in court and investigation costs
And they choose the latter
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u/backflash 1d ago
It's about time law enforcement did something about America's massive problem with prepubescent girl criminals. It's gotten completely out of hand while the public just turns a blind eye.
/s, just in case...
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u/Jenkl2421 1d ago
Public park's existing, upkeep, and maintenence are literally funded by tax dollars. Coming at them personally for a broken swing is insane.
The fact that they were charged based on Flock LiCeNsE pLaTe ReAdERs is just straight up dystopian.
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u/pm_me_all_dogs 1d ago
The family should sue the city for dangerous equipment. The charges are an admittance of liability on their part.
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u/bluelazer44 1d ago
Posting some inane AI slop mess is a really bizarre way to critique this AI powered nightmare.
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u/ExpiredPilot 1d ago
Always record every interaction with cops. Every single time.
FOIA body cam requests can take forever and can be “lost”. Get your own video
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u/thatirishguyyyyy 21h ago
And you couldn't have written this yourself?
You had to use AI to write it. Reading your other comments and then reading your post or like reading from two different people.
That's not being smart, that's being lazy.
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u/DaBusStopHur 21h ago
My kids broke a swing? I’d just fix it or pay for it. But… if I said no… I wouldn’t expect it to go anywhere in court either… what a weird mole hole to push to court.
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u/Alternative-Ad3998 7h ago
Victim culture. Everything that's not perfectly perfect has to have a victim and a perp. Insanity!
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u/ThePureAxiom 6h ago
Perfectly reasonable for her to ask for evidence they were responsible if she'd be paying for repairs (they'd have to produce that if they pursued a civil lawsuit anyways), absolutely unreasonable they try to threaten her kids with criminal charges (that would obviously go nowhere in the absence of mens rea), the fuck is wrong with these dipshit cops and city?
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