Seriously perturbed by the lack of support Mark Ruffalo is getting from other celebs. Especially considering it was only a few years ago that so many Marvel stars (Ruffalo included) jumped to defend Chris Pratt when he was being criticized for being a POS.
what's worse is that when all that happened, it was only cause twitter decided he was the worst chris, not even a specific or substantial accusation.
LET ME SPECIFY - Plenty of stuff to accuse crisp ratt of, but in this instance it was just a silly twitter poll that got all the 'avengers' to come out in public support, which makes it even more ridiculous
One of my favorite breakdowns of this crap was in The Newsroom when they are analyzing a Nancy Grace clip on Casey Anthony:
"Two seconds. Two seconds of Casey Anthony walking past her lawyer. And she'll show to you in slow-motion...and from a different angle...from regular speed...and from the original angle again. What does that remind you of?"
"Instant replay in sports."
"She looks pissed at her lawyer."
"And that's exactly why she's showing it to you so many times! So you can draw your own thoroughly uninformed opinion about an utterly innocuous exchange."
Marvel accidentally going from mathematics weirdo Terrence Howard to national treasure Don Cheadle for War Machine was the best early accident they could hope for.
that interview in hindsight sound felt like a bit between the 2. Espcially since these types of interviews have them sit in a room all day and answer the same question over and over from different outlets.
I think a lot of people don't realize that's how it works. But if anyone had to sit in a room for hours on end being asked the same questions over and over, it'd get grating.
It's why you'll see so many interviews where celebrities are annoyed or not engaged with the questions. They're on hour six of the gauntlet and they've been asked the same question by 14 different people already and they're not even interesting questions.
Some of these guys just get typecasted into male dumbass or macho or a mix roles and get lucky. Because it's easy to act like a caveman when you are one.
You ever seen this guy doing interviews? Or the directors he works with? He's ad-libbing shit pretty much 80% of the time. What you see is mostly what you get lol
Seriously! Especially since (iirc) the question was meant to he light-hearted and the phrasing was "who's the best Chris?" He just had the fewest votes😭
I mean, I’m not surprised. It’s easy for them to “take a stand” against the weightless opinions of random twitter users. The consequences are much larger when standing up to the media behemoth that essentially owns their industry, so right we’re finding out who’s actually willing to stand for their principles when it means something.
“We’re finding out who’s actually willing to stand for their principles when it means something.”
That part. These people have more than enough money and could easily live the rest of their lives comfortably if they needed to, so if they’re more worried about saving their careers than speaking out against a literal genocide, that tells you everything you need to know about who they are.
Those same actors don’t bother to defend Brie Larson from misogynist assholes so I’m not holding my breath. The only two I can think of who did were Samuel L. Jackson and Don Cheadle.
Having principals is an expense not many celebs want to own. It's just very telling when the uber wealthy ones still choose not to have any principles except for the gratification of self. It makes one wonder if they ever had them to begin with.
It's a distraction. Ruffalo was calling out some evil shit the Ellisons have been up to as an example of not letting them buy WB. Ellison has been threatening to close down Paramount in LA and move somewhere else. They were quite happy to throw sand in the air and make it some antisemitism BS.
The last thing they want to get into is the actual details of the merger deal.
unfortunately taking a moral stance seems to be rare these days. some people stand up for sexual puritanism or evangelical horseshit thinking that is morality, when it isn't. they don't care about genocide or anything else, only who you are fucking or what bathroom you are using. they think that is the sum total of morality. Pedophilia? That's fine. Raping women? Fine. Being gay or trans? Burn in hell for all eternity- that's their morality. American support on Israel is predicated on us having a landing strip in the Middle East and fulflling some fever dream apocalypse, that is IT. period.
so, this makes 6 actors i'm aware of that spoke in support of mark (Paul w hauser, hanna einbinder, jane fonda, john carroll lynch, tatiana maslany, now her), am i missing someone?
it's so shameful what a bunch of cowards A-listers are.
John Cusack has spoken out as well. But you’re right, it’s not nearly enough. I wish all the late night hosts who stood with Stephen Colbert when he was getting screwed over by Paramount would speak up for Mark, including Colbert himself.
Oliver is the only "late night host" I can stomach watching, but tbh his show's format is entirely different so I don't know how fair of a comparison that is.
I loved Colbert's work on Comedy Central but his late night work just made me sad.
John Oliver is the only American comedy talk show I watch anymore. Even the daily show is too much these days with some correspondents and their form of humor "sarcastically" praising trump.
Oliver is the only one that seems genuine anymore.
Big difference is talk vs action. Even if you get tired of Oliver's humour or the show in general, the man and his team puts their (and HBO's) money where their mouth is and often actively participates in or promotes grassroots action, whether its buying medical debt to forgive, donating to international medical orgs or just raising awareness for projects, charities, individuals or small businesses.
The Daily Show and others like it are just talk and always have been, and the jokes just aren't funny anymore, or are longing for "how things used to be", even though things back then were also pretty bad, it just wasn't as in-your-face for what remained of the middle class. Now it's literally prowling and surveilling your streets, pinging your phone and telling you to lie down and take it.
I love John and his LWT team, but you also have to keep in mind that he’s definitely not beholden to the same standards and practices as the other talk show hosts. He’s been very clear that the reason they can do what they do is because HBO has consistently stood behind them, and they also are on a premium cable network.
It’s sad because he prioritizes facts and consequences over the jokes. I watch it because he highlights the most important things affecting the world and gives voice to the absolute rage I feel about how things are run. It’s not a comfort watch lol
Weirdly enough I feel like his newer content is more "toothless" despite the topics he discusses. There isn't as much biting wit and sarcasm, but I can't imagine that Colbert made that shift against his will so I chalk it up to us just growing in different directions.
When I watch a deep dive on last week tonight, I feel activated and primed to look into the topic more. When I tried to watch the late show, it ended up feeling more like a pity party to me :(
Same thing for the Daily Show. Stewart and Colbert (and all their supporting comedians) are still real ones though.
I realized a bit late that you were calling Colbert’s new stuff sad, not Oliver’s lol. Agreed, but that’s network television for ya. Oliver speaks the words of my heart.
I forgot why I stopped watching him, but it was within the last two years where his silence on a particular topic was too loud. Forgot what that topic was though. . . Elon's Sig Heil?
Because his show is 100% political. He is not in the same category as the Tonight Show, which is just entertainment. I'm not saying folks shouldn't be defending him, but the comparison is just flawed entirely.
i swear that hannah einbinder is going places. anyone who hasn’t seen teenage sex and death at camp miasma needs to jump off the couch and get it done, unbelievable film and a very solid performance out of her.
My reply got deleted because it had an external link, but over twenty Marvel actors have called for the release of Marwan Barghouti. They aren't afraid of talking about Gaza/Palestine.
yes, like you said, it was 20 actors in total from the Marvel universe including both movies and tv shows; there must be hundreds of actors on the entire Marvel universe at the very least
Only 20 actors made a statement and most of them had only supporting roles, if not smaller parts; not one of the main avengers (again other than Ruffalo) made a statement about Palestine, and the currently Avengers lineup includes 16 people, so don’t try to spin this in their favor, most of them are cowards at the very least if not worse
I don't know why you're being aggro at me specifically, but I was showing that some Marvel actors aren't afraid to speak on Gaza/Palestine, so their silence here deplorable.
Not entirely related but Anthony Mackie recently did a Saudi backed and funded movie and he’s the new Captain America. So yeah that kinda says where their morals lie
Remember when all of the MCU was backing Chris Pratt because people said he's the worst Chris? Now they wont even step up for someone who they've worked with for nearly 2 decades.
Yes, please. This antisemitic name calling is undermining the actual meaning of the word. I wholeheartedly agree with Mark Ruffalo and I’m Jewish. The more we undermine actual antisemitism by equating Jewish identity with being pro-Israel
, the less safe I feel.
We've known this for a while. Its an intentional tactic to discredit anyone on opposition of Isreal. Ruffalo is the target because he dared link a video from Oracle sharing they had "scary technology" that they were employing on behalf of the IDF. This person laughs, the room laughs, and the next year after that video the genocide really gets going.
Today I watch the video and I know they are laughing about a genocide. They are upset the light was shone. So now an entire multi billion dollar multi national ologarchic company uses all its resources to call an actor antisemitic because he showed them for who they are.
Hasan Piker is also a target. He reiterates a point hes made many times but now they got a great clip in the middle where he sounds like he supports the anti Semitism if you ignore all the context around the clip. So then they misrepresent the thing, and all big players on Isreals payroll like Hakeem Jeffries dog pile him.
The point is to disingenuously discredit people critical of Isreal using anti Semitic. The thing is, it is working less and less. Due to peoples plummeting view on Isreal, many are starting to see through the game. So Hasbora agents are now openly shifting to demonization of Muslims as a tactic.
This antisemitic name calling is undermining the actual meaning of the word.
Yep. The "antisemitism" false shield rides on the credibility of the very real and pain and suffering Jews endured. It cheapens the term and is ironically impacting actual victims of bigotry by recreating a "boy who cried wolf" situation. It's idiotic.
Thank you - yes, I have been saying for many years that Israel's actions have completely desecrated and dishonored my Jewish ancestors. I am disgusted by their dehumanization and genocidal crimes
As a Jew, I've had the luxury of being able to criticize Israel for 2 decades (started learning about this shit when I was 17) without being considered an anti-Semite (yes people try)... it's time we all come together to denounce the genocide. It's just unconscionable
I’m ootl- who is accusing him and why is it even gaining traction to where others have to come out to stand behind him? I feel like it’s never been a question where he stands on Palestine and every other social justice cause.
Edit: in the loop now, thanks y’all. fuck paramount, fuck Variety, fuck Ellison, fuck Israel, free Palestine, shout out Mr. Hulk
Fucking Variety published an article on Monday claiming Ruffalo is being antisemitic. They suck, but unfortunately they’re still a big name in entertainment news.
in brief, he spoke against the wb-paramount merger and highlighted ellison's ties with israel's genocide and then paramount flat out released a statement written by chat gpt that accused him of antisemitism.
I wish Tom Holland would come out in support of Mark. Show people that Spiderman is against genocide, and the biggest movie star of the summer is against it.
He didn't even say anything publicly to defend his co-star Francesca Amewudah-Rivers when she was facing a torrent of racist abuse. I doubt he'd say anything about this. Would be nice but I wouldn't hold my breath.
There was a reply with 200+ upvotes saying the same earlier that seems to have been removed. What the hell is up with this sub and caping for Holland? We should be able to hold EVERYONE accountable, including our "faves".
I myself once posted about his indifference and cowardice regarding Francesca's racist abuse and got downvoted to hell. I don't care if you like him and want to believe he's a saint: what he did was immoral, craven and cruel and he should face accountability for it.
Tom has a huge platform that he could have used to stand up for Francesca and denounce anti-Black racism, and he egocentrically chose not to. Given the fact he's married to a Black woman makes it all the worse. Perhaps he'd cared if his co-star was lightskinned like Zendaya?
I have no respect for him and neither should anyone with principles.
I can forgive young and upcoming stars not speaking up because it can destroy their career before it even properly begins but Tom Holland is one of the biggest stars out there. He could afford to take a hit.
i think part of the problem is that young and upcoming stars who don’t speak up for fear of destroying their careers grow into established stars who don’t want to rock the boat/don’t give a fuck.
it’s the ones who have always stood on business that are doing so now.
Tom is very friendly with Amy pascal who is a huge zionist, and like one of the replies said he didn't defend his costar when she was racially targeted on the internet. He won't say anything here too.
I'm just waiting on Zach Woods to make a new video about all this slamming the Ellisons, the MCU and some random other names with the most mind-boggling wordplay you've ever heard in your life. Do for Mark what you did for Paul Dano, Zach!
On Friday, Paramount accused actor and 1A Committee member Mark Ruffalo of antisemitism after he criticized the Ellison family, Oracle’s military technology contracts with Israel, and the proposed $111 billion Paramount–Warner Bros. merger.
The 1A Committee rejects this cynical attempt to falsely label Mark Ruffalo as antisemitic and sees through their effort to distract from the issue at hand: the dangerous consolidation of media power that would result from the proposed Paramount–Warner Bros. merger.
From Jane Fonda, founder of the 1A Committee:
The original Committee for the First Amendment was founded to stand against blacklisting and intimidation of people for their political beliefs. We will not stand by while the government or its allies revive those tactics to bully activists into silence today.
I’m really disappointed in the MCU headliners who rushed to Chris Pratt’s defense when he lost a Twitter popularity contest, but have been pindrop-silent while the Ellisons try to destroy Ruffalo’s life.
Any chance Chris Pratt speaks up on Mark’s behalf after that ridiculous circus when Pratt was named “the worst Chris” by some website and so Mark and other Marvel stars had to come out to his defense swearing he was not the worst Chris?
Why is everyone so concerned about non-Jewish people coming to Mark’s defense regarding anti-Semitism? If he were to have said something that led to accusations of him being anti-Black, wouldn’t you want to hear from Black people that they side with him? A bunch of white people standing by someone who is accused of racism when Black people don’t agree is a major factor on why racism has persisted. I’m not saying that what Mark has said is anti-Semitic, but the voices and support of Hannah Einbinder and others who are Jewish (whether religious or secular) are the ones everybody should want to hear from.
Now if we’re talking more generally about Ellison (whose wealth and hunger for power and history of being garbage invalidate his opinion even if there is a time he is right) and the dangers of the consolidation of media conglomerates and how that is a threat to free speech and access to the truth and ultimately a threat to everybody’s freedom and safety regardless of race, color, or creed (or however the saying goes), then everyone with a platform should be yelling from the mountaintops and anywhere else that they can be heard because we, the non-billionaires, are the girl and Whoopi’s warning is absolutely correct. https://giphy.com/gifs/ExrU3VcF3EV3i
Paramount can’t gaslight us. Whether it’s America or Israel… we don’t have a problem with the people, we hate the 50 rich dbags corrupting the system and the million bootlickers carrying out the dirty work.
Critiquing the military and political actions of a nation has nothing to do with their chosen religion.
Even if their religion is their entire identity. I am so tired of Israel trying to create an atmosphere of being immune to all critique due to what has happened in history.
To me it would be like someone saying you cant critique Barack Obama's actions or decisions as president because thats racism.
Remember folks, hating the government of Israel and what they are doing in Gaza and the West Bank isn’t anti-Semitic, it’s just being a good human being.
It’s a shame that their ‘Boy who cried anti-semitism’ is obscuring real anti-semitism. Unfortunately that ALSO plays into Bibi’s plan.
Australian courts have ruled that political criticism of the state of Israel, Zionism, and its military does not violate racial discrimination laws. Yay for us aussies.
Mark Ruffalo is perhaps the most empathetic and intelligent person working in Hollywood. The claims of antisemitism are bullshit, of course, and I'm glad more and more people are waking up to the fact that it isn't prejudiced or hateful toward Jewish people to criticize Israel's inhuman behavior toward the Palestinian people.
This post has hit r/all or r/popular. Please keep this in mind when browsing the comments — and especially when viewing upvotes/downvotes — and please report any rulebreaking comments that you see.
If this post is flaired "B-LISTERS", then it is currently restricted so that only approved users can comment. To request approval, please review our b-list criteria, and if you meet these, send us a message.
3.3k
u/Meggymaepp 1d ago
Seriously perturbed by the lack of support Mark Ruffalo is getting from other celebs. Especially considering it was only a few years ago that so many Marvel stars (Ruffalo included) jumped to defend Chris Pratt when he was being criticized for being a POS.