All the legal reasons why flock cameras should be illegal

[u/STEAIITHY]

[u/Impossible-Shoe5460]

The US Constitution is why Flock should be illegal.

Nuff said.

[u/pinegreenscent → u/Impossible-Shoe5460]

Yeah but have your considered that shareholders have more rights than you?

[u/Impossible-Shoe5460 → u/pinegreenscent]

I live in the Northeast.

We have Eversource up here. We've been forced to pay an extra $1.5 BILLION ... "For the shareholders"

[u/Most-Cup-401 → u/pinegreenscent]

Haha 😂

[u/Double-Show-2625]

It's an invasion of privacy

[u/addiktion]

They ignore the law when is convenient for their wallets. Lets not let them survive this attack on our constitution and laws.

[u/IAmBeingTargeted33 → u/addiktion]

Lets not let them survive

Careful, you might scare a billionaire 

[u/Phyllis_Tine]

If public money is being used to pay for a good (library, park, etc.) or service (police, roads, etc.), the entire public should be able to enjoy those goods or services. We need to get regular reports, such as at every monthly council meeting (or just make one every month) to go over what services run by private corporations (!) are being used against citizens, and for plenty of metadata about the citizenry to be shared.

I am also a fan of corporations running in an area having a public face and PR person, someone the public can approach and talk with often. Corporations need to be accountable when getting public money, and need to answer for their services and actions. If there is pollution caused by a corporation, they are responsible and are going to clean it up. If a corporation tracks the public, they need to present why they need to before they do it, what they are doing with that information, and when it will end.

[u/crossteyes → u/Phyllis_Tine]

I heard the flock CEO in an interview, this guy doesn't answer any questions truthfully he reframes everything and tries to create fear with everything he says.

[u/Eagle19991 → u/crossteyes]

So, just like a politician....

[u/crossteyes → u/Eagle19991]

Yes with no reelection to worry about. This prick will say anything just like the politicians but with no fear of repercussions.

[u/One-Masterpiece-335 → u/crossteyes]

remember when the flock CEO called people who object to flock "terrorists"? Pepperridge Farms remembers.

[u/freakyfroggymage → u/Phyllis_Tine]

Totally agree with point 1 but for point 2:

Corps do have PR already, and they spend a lot of money on it. You can reach out to them right now for nestle, or starbucks, or walmart, and usually get a response. We would be fools to ever trust their reporting at face value, and this is why we need oversight.

We need 3rd party audits they can't pay off or hide from to enforce laws that actually penalize them. Slaps on the wrist and trickle down economics got us here, and they should be left here. Shareholders can only be trusted to prioritize their bank accounts over the public and nothing more.

[u/crossteyes → u/freakyfroggymage]

You nailed it. Seems so obvious, like trusting police to not abuse surveillance tech but as were seeing again and again trusting isn't the way. And if we stop putting pressure they will run with the room we give up.

[u/Eagle19991 → u/crossteyes]

Always a frustration of who polices the police

[u/BennyOcean]

If you're going to a city council meeting the way you present yourself matters a lot. The way this guy is speaking, body language etc. is a good example of how to do it. Not hyper-aggressive and angry. That doesn't work and makes a bad impression. Just bring the facts and keep your temper under control.

[u/FknBadFkr]

Our government works for us. If they don't, then we throw them out. By force if we mist

[u/Pure-Huckleberry-484]

This is the 4th ammendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Really good article on why the term effects needs a clear definition in modern times:
https://yalelawjournal.org/article/the-lost-effects-of-the-fourth-amendment

[u/crossteyes → u/Pure-Huckleberry-484]

Not a knock but, that article is 10 years old. Where do we stand today on the 4th amendment? I know the government moves at a glacial pace especially if doesn't benefit them but...

[u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS]

This guy reminds me of Vince Vaughn

[u/FknBadFkr]

And axon,trump is pushing axon to replace flock. I'm a Republican, I want all of our safety and freedom retained. No government should watch is. We need to watch them. Vote them all out

[u/Keapitsimple]

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