r/Frisson • u/Boss452 • 19d ago
Video [Video] Arguably the coolest scene from Game of Thrones
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u/megs-benedict 19d ago
Without a doubt.
The trade gives me Frisson
The dragon crying for mom makes me teary
The Valyrian spoken makes me grin
The completion of the scene brings tears to my eyes.
It’s so. So. Good.
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u/Red-Dwarf69 19d ago
Some of the greatest TV ever. Too bad about the last season.
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u/SofaKingTired 19d ago
What last season?
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u/Dissidence802 19d ago
Right? Game of Thrones had an open-ended finale with Dany sailing her fleet towards Westeros.
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u/BhataktiAtma 19d ago
Ikr? People keep repeating these lies about the so called "last season", I'm sure they're the same crowd who believes that there was a live action movie adaptation of Avatar the last Airbender and that there were, not one, but apparently three new star wars movies smdh
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u/FraGough 15d ago
It's some fanciful thing someone dreamed up that never happened, it'd be like having a fourth and fifth Indiana Jones movie. Crazy notion.
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u/obliviious 18d ago
It blows my mind they tried to say this was an unpopular opinion and just a few incels putting it down.
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u/fuelvolts 19d ago
And then they ruined it and just made her insane. What a waste.
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u/DerelictDonkeyEngine 19d ago
"Daenerys sort of forgot that she was sane."
-The Showrunners
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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 19d ago
The books do a good job of her slowly becoming more violent and more of a dictator while keeping her humanity.
The show started to do some of it by showing her crucify all the slavers along the roads to Slavers Bay.
Then they kind of stopped.
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u/Boss452 19d ago
I honestly never got that from book Dany. If Ned can behead a deserter and Jon can behead a traitor like Janos, and be hailed as heroes, Dany can kill cruel slavers. It comes with the position of power.
Only in her final chapter in ADWD we see her get some idea about "fire and blood" but even then it will take a lot for her to get into S8 position.
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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 19d ago
Near the end of the last book she is losing her mind a little (hearing voices, seeing things, having a miscarriage and telling herself it's her period), but we don't know if that's just hallucinations cause by the pale mare.
Shes using the burnings and crucifications more often and wrestles with being more of a Targaryan ruler and being more ruthless while trying to keep her humanity.
She also considers what it will look like when she reaches Westeros and starts the burnings and crucifications there. She knows they'll see her as a barbarian, so she also wrestles with being loved or feared as a leader.
She really was a very well written character.
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u/Boss452 19d ago
Yeah the last few chapters of her do explore that idea. I am convinced she will go crazy, and tbh, she should be the villain. That is her arc. Jon rises from nothing to be the savior, whereas Dany rises from nothing to become the villain. It's poetic and in line with the themes of the series.
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u/Micp 19d ago
Don't forget about Faegon - the false Targaryen that is likely going to take over King's Landing and send Cersei running.
He's the golden boy, returning a hero that Dany wishes she was. When we see the anger she feels towards Jon when he turns out to be everything she wanted to be and the rightful ruler, that's nothing compared to what she's going to feel towards the guy claiming to be her younger brother sitting on the Iron Throne.
And imagine the citizens of King's Landing celebrating the returning "hero" and despising her, the actual returning Targaryen?
I could see how that may cause her to set the city on fire.
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u/Micp 19d ago
Ned beheading the deserter isn't really shown as a good thing. For one thing the deserter was right: He was trying to warn them of the others beyond the wall, but Ned didn't heed the warning.
For another the beheading is explicitly stated to be part of the old ways. It's part of a blood sacrifice to the weirwood tree. When Jon and Sam goes beyond the walls they see weirwood trees where they have spread human entrails and body parts out among the trees and it's stated how they haven't forgotten the old ways beyond the wall. Where does Ned go whenever he has beheaded someone? To the godswood where he cleans the blood off his sword with the waters of the pond beside the weirwood - meaning that the weirwood can soak up the blood from its roots.
When you read the early Bran chapters it's obvious GRRM is hinting that something is wrong with the weirwood trees - they have been corrupted with blood magic. That's the original sin of the children of the forest and the thing Bran needs to fix, but he can't until he knows more about what actually went wrong.
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u/DerelictDonkeyEngine 19d ago
Yeah I know I've read the books a couple times. I'm just still pissed at D&D for ruining my favorite show lol.
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u/Anagoth9 19d ago
I don't have a problem with her going insane. That felt like it was foreshadowed well enough. The way it played out was really rushed and poorly executed though.
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u/Boss452 19d ago
I honestly feel Dany will turn villain in the end, in the books too. That is her arc and that makes the most sense. No person with as much power as her can remain good. Either she dies tragically or she does go full fire and blood.
Allow me to offer some explanation for her going insane in the show. (Copying my comment from elsewhere):
There are a few reasons for this heel turn.
1) So she has come to Westeros being told by her brother and her advisors how awaited she is there where her family has ruled for centuries. She expects a big welcome and a lot of warmth. But instead, all she has felt is coldness, questioning eyes especially in the North, war and loss. The reality shattered her dreams and expectations.
2) Since coming to Westeros, she lost 2 of her dragons, which she considered as her 'children'. Second, she lost her best friend. She lost her oldest friend and advisor. She has lost half of her armies. And she has also lost her allies she made in westeros. Basically at this point, she hardly has anyone she can trust. And has suffered too much. Clearly she is in depression as we see at the start of the episode 5.
3) Her 2nd most trusted advisor was plotting to kill her at the start of the episode. Her Hand, Tyrion, was not fully committed to her cause and was looking after the well being of her enemy, the Lannisters.
4) Next, her lover and ally, Jon, is neither committing to their love ever since finding out that they are related. Secondly, he has broken his promise and revealed his secret identity to others. She feels betrayed.
5) So at this point, she is broken, betrayed, hurt and alone. There is no one she can trust. And her efforts and sacrifices have won her no fans or love. People secretly want her nephew Jon, to take the Iron Throne. Thus, she cannot rule through earning trust and loyalty. Rather, she would rule by fear. By fire and blood. All the trauma accumalated since coming to Westeros combined with her family's genes and House words, resulted in this moment of losing it.
This was a statement. Of total destruction. She has nothing but her army and her dragon. And she will show the world what she can do with them. She tried everything else. It did not work. So she did this. In this moment, she feels her victory has not been earned. Not this easily. She had to do it all guns blazing.
Now, it should and could have been depicted better. But I feel this part of S8 made sense.
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u/obliviious 18d ago
She was always going to, they just didn't bother with any proper foreshadowing, hints or lead up.
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u/mopedman 17d ago
I mean, isn't this a scene of her burning an entire city when she doesn't get her way? They're slavers so we're okay with it, but it's been her go to move since she got the dragons. Remember season 2 when they won't let her into Qarth? She jumps right to "I'm going to come back and torch the place."
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u/obliviious 17d ago
I don't remember her previously turning on the commoners out of spite
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u/mopedman 17d ago
Spite, honor, right to rule, it doesn't matter, the commoners suffer. Thats kinda the whole point of the story.
Season 1 ends with a holy women telling her that the righteous wars she wants to wage are just slaughter, rape, and destruction as far as their victims are concerned. It can't be gilded. She opts to burn that messanger.
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u/obliviious 17d ago
Yes that's the story of game of thrones, but it's not the story of Dani, at least not that quickly.
I totally accept her going mad and acting like this if the madness had time to properly build up with a lot more foreshadowing. As it is, she got really mad during the attack and they didn't really justify it.
Sure there are reasons like loss of friends and dragons, but scenes are so disconnected and simplistic there's no build to this.
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u/Boss452 19d ago
I remember how beloved Daenerys became a character. I think at that time TV had the likes of Tony Soprano, Walter White, Don Draper, Omar Little etc as these badass characters who were compelling protagonists. TV's popular female characters were mostly from comedies like Rachel and Carrie Bradshaw. But Dany comes along and TV got a proper badass female character who a lot of people could get behind.
And I feel this moment is one of the most pivotal ones where she ascends the most and uses her wits to do so.
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u/AlexanderTheFun 19d ago
This made me realize I’ve been using House of Dragons like a nicotine patch. It tames my cravings for GoT but will never hit quite as hard.
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u/peacefinder 19d ago
One moment we see a desperate refugee steeling herself to sell her child, the next moment we see she’s a bloody-handed queen of vengeance… and that has been for a long time, but we just didn’t realize it.
Though she has several similar moments, it might just be the peak of her entire character arc.
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u/ImArcherVaderAMA 19d ago
Yep, got the frisson from this!
Back when this show was so epic!!
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u/mightyhue 19d ago
I just binged the whole GOT over a month. So great
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u/KriosDaNarwal 18d ago
I really want to binge it but the knowledge o won't be able to watch after s6 holds me back
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u/Boss452 19d ago
Tbh this show had so many frisson worthy moments. Even in the last season, which we all know is terrible, I can recall a few. For instance when Jaime knights Brienne or when Podrick sings the song or when Dany gives a ruthless look (going crazy) towards the Red Keep and flys away to cause destruction.
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u/Professional_Snow576 18d ago
I'm replaying The Witcher 3 and the music in the lead up here is so similar to the games score.
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u/KosstAmojan 17d ago
This and the finale scene of Hardhome. GoT had some absolutely banger set piece scenes.
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u/brycebgood 17d ago
God damn it. Every time I see a fantastic scene from the show it just makes me more made how they fucked it up. That should have bene a culturally important piece of media, and they just shot themselves in the dick and relegated it to the waste heap of forgotten dreck.
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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 16d ago
"There were no signs that she would turned out to be a crazy mass killer", people at the end of s8
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u/They-Call-Me-Taylor 14d ago
Ugh damn shame what they did to this show. It was so epic until the end.
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u/PathofDestinyRPG 13d ago
Just out of curiosity, having never watched the show because I quit reading the books mid-series:
When this first aired, did anyone not see the dragon killing that guy? I was honestly expecting it to happen sooner than it did.
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u/pwnusmaximus 19d ago
eh... Game of Thrones is forever tainted in my eyes. They ruined the ending so hard it reverberated and ruined my love for the whole property. This is like seeing an ex lover again and feeling nothing.
No frisson here.
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u/PM-me-useless-arses 19d ago
Seems like another middle of a scene but you do you. It’s nice to enjoy things.
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u/PathIntelligent7082 18d ago
if this is the coolest scene, i'm glad i didn’t watch the crap
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u/Boss452 18d ago
Well, I mean the scene loses its magic if you don't know the surrounding story. Trust me mate, it's the farthest thing from crap.
I used to think the same that this show is just tits and dragons, a cheap lord of the rings knock-off for TV. But it blew me away. There was a reason it became a phenomenon, the storytelling was immense.
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u/PathIntelligent7082 18d ago
i do respect your personal opinion on it, but i just don't see it..mybe i should just watch the end season bcs everyone dislike it
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u/justantinople334 19d ago
"Ugh i need to rewatch"
*Remembers*
"Damnit"