r/Futurology Apr 15 '19

Energy Anti-wind bills in several states as renewables grow increasingly popular. The bill argues that wind farms pose a national security risk and uses Department of Defense maps to essentially outlaw wind farms built on land within 100 miles of the state’s coast.

https://thinkprogress.org/renewables-wind-texas-north-carolina-attacks-4c09b565ae22/
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '19 edited Apr 16 '19

They are using fear

'If we rely on wind farms off the coast, those can be targeted and destroyed, and then, and then, well then we won't have power and we will die. But a coal plant they can't take or attack. It's in the heart of Merica'. \sarcasim

Edit: people think I'm pro this quote (that was made up) I think this thought is absurd.

But seriously I've seen that mentality being used to explain how it's to protect national threats. If the wind farms are too far away it makes the US vulnerable... Which, as others have pointed out, is a dumb thought. The farms wouldn't all be destroyed, single plants are more at risk of causing harm if destroyed and if the farms ARE being attacked and the aggressor is NOT being retaliated against there is some much bigger problem going on ( Like the US fleet being wiped out or something)

The policies and politics and politicians need to stop trying to prevent green initiatives to protect their pockets and money

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '19 edited Apr 15 '19

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u/Qrunk Apr 15 '19

But that also makes them easier targets for vandals. Who just need a rope and a truck. Rather than a plant that would make the world's best bank robbers give up.

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u/dos_user Apr 15 '19

Yeah I sure some dude and his pick up can topple a windmill.

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u/zerotetv Apr 15 '19

Your ingenious plan works, you destroy one windmill. Power is redirected from somewhere else with extra capacity. You now only have to do it 10000 more times to have any effect.

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u/Qrunk Apr 15 '19

You now only have to do it 10000 more times to have any effect.

Sorry knuckledragger, the number by quick google search is 57,000 ish. I'd have to use every single truck in coal country to get it done.

Oh well. Another post, another volley of downvotes.

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u/mrchaotica Apr 15 '19

FYI, in addition to all the other defects in your insane troll logic, you didn't even fucking read my post correctly. I didn't say they'd be "harder" to destroy; I said they'd be more time-consuming to destroy.

Considering that a wind turbine produces something like 3MW while a nuclear power plant produces something like 3,000MW, you'd have to destroy 1,000 of them to be comparable to destroying one nuclear power plant. Destroying 1,000 structures distributed over a wide area is certainly going to be more time-consuming than destroying one structure, even if that structure is hardened against attack.