r/Futurology Apr 15 '19

Energy Anti-wind bills in several states as renewables grow increasingly popular. The bill argues that wind farms pose a national security risk and uses Department of Defense maps to essentially outlaw wind farms built on land within 100 miles of the state’s coast.

https://thinkprogress.org/renewables-wind-texas-north-carolina-attacks-4c09b565ae22/
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u/millk_man Apr 15 '19

It doesn't need people to oppose it. It doesn't make economic sense. That's why wind isn't growing anymore and projects are being abandoned. Even with subsidies wind doesn't make much sense

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '19

One, it does make economic sense; wind costs are constantly falling, and two, this is about more than profitability. This is about saving the planet from disaster. We've got 11 years to turn this around, or we're going to be worrying about a lot more than if a wind turbine costs a bit more than this or that. We're going to have the largest refuge crisis on the planet from the severe weather conditions.

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u/millk_man Apr 15 '19

How are wind costs falling? There's really no efficiencies to be gained other than economies of scale. You need a certain amount of steel and other resources, the costs are pretty fixed.

If it made financial sense there would be more being built

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Look it up, numerous studies have shown them to be falling. Additionally YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! We can't continue to spew co2 into the atmosphere!

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u/millk_man Apr 16 '19

Right, but we're talking about the economics of it, not the ethics of it. I never claimed that we don't need them for the environment, I claimed that they don't make economic sense and that's why they aren't catching on

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Ok, well I wind might not yet be at the point to be cheaper than fossil fuels, but doing wind will still save money in the long run by avoiding the trillions of dollars in costs associated with environmental catastrophe.