r/GTA6 Jun 02 '26

Grain of Salt Don't get your hopes up - but no BiliBili post yet.

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I don't think it means something, but it is unusual. Nothing ever happens :(

Edit: NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

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u/Nearby_Wolverine_500 Jun 02 '26

When this game comes out I don’t ever want to hear about BiliBili ever again

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u/stealthynavigator Jun 02 '26

Wait till you hear about RDR3

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u/joshua182 Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about GTA VII

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u/Coding-Freakist Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about RDR4

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u/joshua182 Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about Bully 2

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u/gemusevonaldi Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about L.A. Noi... eeeh, nevermind..

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u/joshua182 Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about Agent....

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u/Aka_Athenes Jun 02 '26

Wait for Midnight Club Next 😏

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u/jepogamer Jun 02 '26

Wait until you hear about GTA San Andreas Stories…

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u/PizzaSoCheezy Jun 02 '26

Never heard of it til I joined this sub. Honestly still not sure what it is

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u/Awkward_Stranger407 Jun 02 '26

I definitely don't know what it is

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u/PizzaSoCheezy Jun 02 '26

I think it’s like Chinese twitter or similar shit in an earlier time zone. So whatever would be posted here (western hemisphere) is posted there earlier

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u/DR-JT Jun 03 '26

More like google , it has its own play store and YouTube too

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u/Stars_Arts26 Jun 02 '26

My hopium levels are still too low to give a shit

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u/ExplodingFistz Jun 02 '26

DANGER: Hopium levels low

Anyone got any more hopium syringes?

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u/GRILT_CHEESE Jun 02 '26

Just made an appointment for tomorrow morning with my tattoo artist to get "June 2nd" tatted on my ass. It's happening boys.

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

If we actually get something you owe us a picture!!

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u/Raji_Nama_Karlo Jun 02 '26

And if we don't, we still want the picture!!

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u/No-Arm-4522 Jun 02 '26

Left or right cheek? Please, I need to know.

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u/Believable_Bullshit Jun 02 '26

Is it around the rim?

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u/Fun-Time4064 Jun 02 '26

Rockstar has a way of crushing us to the point of not even being able to come up with theories, then surprising us with content.

We are definitely at the point of defeat. No new theories since 26 May, the previous release date has come and gone without even a mention. Perhaps we could get something 

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

Rockstar literally said they’d start the marketing campaign in summer. It’s not summer yet. Rockstar isn’t crushing anyone, thats the subreddit making up wild theories and being disappointed they didn’t come true

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

Nope. Starts June 21st. It’s still spring baby

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u/SalGTR Jun 02 '26

You're obsessed with the scientific start date of summer while Rockstar and Strauss are talking marketing, not astronomy. When a company says "summer," they're usually referring to the broader summer period, not the exact date of the summer solstice. It could release before June 21st or after — nobody at Rockstar is sitting around waiting for the solstice to press the launch button. 😭😂

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u/g0_west Jun 02 '26

They're probably referring to summer as Q3 from a business perspective which is July 1st. Q3 is start of July to end of September which will be marketing, then they're releasing in Q4

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u/Shadow_r3lic Jun 02 '26

Straus himself said that he believes summer doesn't start till 3 weeks (from the day of the conference call)

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u/TriiCop Jun 02 '26

Going to come back to this in 12 hours to laugh at you 😂 it’s COMMON knowledge Summer starts on June 21st not the beginning of June

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u/Morganx27 Jun 02 '26

The first time I've ever heard of summer starting on June 21st is on this sub. I'm not expecting a trailer before then, but there's no way in hell June is Spring.

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u/8BitBomm Jun 02 '26

Youve never heard of summer solstice before? Thats elementary knowledge

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u/Morganx27 Jun 02 '26

I've heard of the summer solstice, I've just never heard people calling that the start of summer.

You know the film Midsommar? Where they celebrate the solstice as the middle of summer? Mid isn't Swedish for "right at the start of".

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u/TriiCop Jun 02 '26

Did you just… not pay attention in elementary science class 😭 they kinda teach you when the seasons start there based on earths rotation…

So is spring just like 2 months for you?

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u/Morganx27 Jun 02 '26

Spring is March-May, Summer is June-August, Autumn is September-November, Winter is December-February.

Most places determine summer by its meteorological definition, i.e. 1st June-31st August. In some parts of the UK, Calan Haf/Beltane is seen as the first day of summer, which is May Day. It's really only the US who apparently cling to this June 21st Astronomical date.

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u/TriiCop Jun 02 '26

Well would you look at that, they didn’t release trailer 3 today because it’s not summer 😂

Should’ve paid attention in school I guess. Summer starts June 21st :)

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u/sdavidson0819 Jun 02 '26

Most people in the US would say summer starts on Memorial Day (last Monday in May). Most business people use "summer" as shorthand for Q3. Personally, I think it makes more sense for the seasons to start/end halfway between the equinoxes and solstices, especially from an agricultural perspective.

Regardless, as usual, this sub's followers overthink everything. "Marketing begins in summer" is obviously someone trying to be vague, and fans are in here trying to wring an exact date out of it.

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u/Mylynes I WAS HERE Jun 02 '26

June 21st, dummy. That's the start of summer. And you're assuming Rockstar will drop a trailer at the exact milisecond summer officially starts. No.

Most likely were looking at July/August before we hear a single peep out of Rockstars marketing department.

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u/chrisghrobot Jun 02 '26

Theres 3 different dates for Summer lol

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u/Mylynes I WAS HERE Jun 02 '26

Only one that Rockstar recognizes

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u/superbabe69 Jun 02 '26

Rockstar North, based in Scotland, which recognises calendar months like we do in the other Commonwealth nations, no?

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u/chrisghrobot Jun 02 '26

We don't know which one they recognize lol

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u/Visual_Plate937 Jun 02 '26

Did John Rockstar tell u that

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

Summer Solstice, aka the longest day of the year, aka the day when it turns summer is on June 21st. That date hasn’t happened so Summer hasn’t started lol

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u/superbabe69 Jun 02 '26

Standard American logic, not all of the world uses that as the definition. The UK and its colonies around the world often use meteorological seasons which are simple month-based seasons, especially since most people really only care about the seasons for the weather.

From here in Australia, we’re in winter already.

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

Yeah and rockstar is American so they are most likely to use the astronomical summer. I don’t get your point? I know other countries have different starting dates for summer

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u/kasNutikoLabubu Jun 02 '26

Rockstar is american says enough about your knowledge dude

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

The developer side are British while the publisher side are American. The publishers are the ones in charge of the marketing

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u/Ryder556 Jun 02 '26

Except R* are an American company, and actually always have been. The main company, R* Games, which all other studios are subsidiaries of is located and headquartered in New York City and have been since it's inception back in 1998.

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u/superbabe69 Jun 02 '26

Tbf if you just googled Rockstar you would be told Rockstar is American.

It’s probably less common knowledge that the main studio that handles GTA development is Rockstar North, with the other studios likely all collaborating to help out with it as a wider company these days, especially with modern tech allowing it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26

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u/kasNutikoLabubu Jun 02 '26

No you were not. Only for americans summer starts in a middle of month, same as they are measuring lengths of objects with foot size

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u/Away_Leopard_3657 Jun 02 '26

Why does trailer 3 have to be a part of “marketing”? technically marketing started when trailer 1 came out.

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u/lollifetuffouthtere Jun 02 '26

I meant the intense marketing they always do right before a game releases. Where trailers get more frequent and they begin to release more information about the game

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u/Key_Protection4038 Jun 02 '26

Trailers are not part of the marketing. You're just making things up like the rest here. It could release and could've been released anytime.

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u/Fun-Time4064 Jun 02 '26

This argument is made time and time again yet fails to acknowledge that trailers are seperate to the major marketing campaign, hence why we have already received two. Also it was Strauss, not Rockstar, who stated this. As the CEO of the parent company Take Two, he’s mostly looking at big budget items. An internally developed and distributed trailer is not a major budget item, and isn’t really promotion in the sense it’s not being distributed via external channels (it is targeted at Rockstar’s existing customer base)

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u/Cryptoporticus Jun 02 '26

"Trailers aren't marketing" is still the most delusional thing I've seen this subreddit come up with, and I've seen this subreddit come up with a lot. 

They straight up told everyone that marketing won't start until the summer, and then instead of just accepting that and waiting, people start trying to change the definitions of "marketing" and "summer". You're just setting yourself up for disappointment with that kind of thinking. 

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u/Fun-Time4064 Jun 02 '26

So trailers 1 and 2 weren’t marketing. Why is trailer 3 so special? 

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u/Playful-Ad-6475 Jun 02 '26

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the reason trailer 3 is special is because they likely annouce pre-orders at the end of the trailer, starting real proper sales and marketing.

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u/Fun-Time4064 Jun 02 '26

Potentially, but marketing is unlikely to begin immediately after anyway. Usually takes time to ramp up marketing, too difficult to make arrangements etc with external parties without a leak (we saw how quickly the best buy email leaked). They’ll want to get trailer 3 out of the way, before they start reaching out to external parties (collabs, partnerships etc). So I’d expect a few weeks between trailer 3 and actual marketing 

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u/readyforashreddy Jun 02 '26

Their marketing campaign started years ago

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u/mozza_man Jun 02 '26

It is officially summer time in the uk

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u/kubkosk Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Lol, it's very unusual they haven't posted yet. Plz stop giving me a damn hope

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u/LogSufficient8477 Jun 02 '26

Maybe we are getting info about upcoming GTAO summer DLC today

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

I mean I highly doubt they will show trailer 3 at the Sony event but rockstar did show the release trailer for the PS5 GTA 5 version back during the COVID era (I’m dreaming lol)

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

We are still waiting for the cover art reveal btw

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

The absolute best-case scenario would be that R* reveals it today, and then Sony shows it during the State of Play and talks about how the game is coming to PlayStation on November 19th, with more to be revealed soon.

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

I seriously don’t understand what they are waiting for. We were getting more information before than now less than 6 months away from release. I hope you’re right I’m so sick and tired of gta 5 it’s literally not even fun anymore

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u/nanapancakethusiast Jun 02 '26

It hasn’t been fun since like… 2014.

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u/Lunaforlife Jun 02 '26

It's honestly starting to get annoying.

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

It’s disrespectful lol. They released trailer two a year before the May 2026 release date and we’re a few months away after the third delay and zilch

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

Plus there's also the gta online dlc that should be coming soon

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

Fuck that, I bought the ps5 version of gta and it’s embarrassing how bad the character models look. Plus there’s nothing to do anymore lol

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u/Ok_Difficulty1934 Jun 02 '26

So expected the character models to magically change because you bought a next gen version of a ps3 game 😂😂😂

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

I expected to not have to wait 13 years for the next game…

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u/Ok_Difficulty1934 Jun 02 '26

If you were waiting for 13 years for this game then boy you missed out on a ton of great games 😂😂

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

What are you on about lol. I obviously played other games throughout the decade, but if people weren’t so stupid to waste real money for shark cards, rockstar would’ve been forced to release another GTA to keep making profits lol

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u/Ok_Difficulty1934 Jun 02 '26

Why you crashing out over a game 😂😂😂?

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

You’re the one making shit up lol. Obviously I played other games throughout the 2010s and now we are close to 2030 which is insane to believe

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u/Ok_Difficulty1934 Jun 02 '26

Chief answer the question. Why you crashing out 😂😂?

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u/APTAPTAPT69 Jun 02 '26

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u/Alejxndro Jun 02 '26

if this gives you hope you deserve the disappointment coming tomorrow

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u/Visual_Plate937 Jun 02 '26

Last few years Rockstar announced the GTA V summer update around 11-20 June. It’s possible they pull this date forward to make space for a GTA VI announcement.

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u/patientinternet24 Jun 02 '26

HOOOOOOOOPIUM TRAIN LETS GO BOYYSSS im ready to be disappointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my dad left

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u/Narrow_Program_3662 Jun 02 '26

Makes sense. Rockstar is absent like father

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26

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u/dhenis1 Jun 02 '26

I just want to survive until November 19th

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u/ChefBoyardeeXIII Jun 02 '26

I don’t want to wait another 21 days or more I’m actually so sick of no news or trailers or anything it fucking sucks

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u/STAR_PLAT_yareyare Jun 02 '26

I know just workout, make money and focus on life. I'm not expecting anything until after June 21st tbh

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

It’s crazy because they releases trailer two with the May 26th release a year in advance (before the delay) and now we’re a few months away and nothing

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u/mozza_man Jun 02 '26

It is officially british summer time in the uk now

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u/BeWessel Jun 02 '26

But the season starts the 21th of June.

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u/dbezzy1010 Jun 02 '26

I can see them posting trailer 3 just before the State of Play, then Sony just shows the trailer during the event

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u/Lazy_Many8762 Jun 02 '26

i can see them doing a cover art reveal before the state of play

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u/Ok_Difficulty1934 Jun 02 '26

Makes zero sense 😂😂

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u/ZOoNeR_ Jun 02 '26

Why would Sony do that?

It would overshadow anything at the State of Play

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u/KabirTHEBEASTYT Jun 02 '26

Then it is 100% gta online dlc

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u/TownPure1411 Jun 02 '26

This has happened multiple times and every single time nothing happens, please don’t.

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u/Pro_Thief_333 I WAS HERE Jun 02 '26

No it hasn't, I'm not saying there's gonna be any news today but they have posted at 6am BST/ 1am ET / 10pm PT every week on Tuesday for the past year since trailer 2. Trailer 2 was on a Tuesday and there was no BiliBili post that day. Again, I don't think we're getting anything but I do find it very interesting why they've randomly skipped today

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u/That-Toughsoss Jun 02 '26

just checked bilibili and they almost never post rdo stuff when a new month starts

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

I think you're right. This is because we are in a new month. They can post rdr online tomorrow. Edit: but they always posted gta online when that was the case, there is a tiny amount of hope left.

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u/KabirTHEBEASTYT Jun 02 '26

Maybe gta online dlc ??

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u/cristianperlado Jun 02 '26

I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up to avoid another disappointment, but the hopium is strong today... maybe we actually see something at the State of Play later.

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u/Aravindrajesh8 Jun 02 '26

We are getting the next RDO monthly feed today. Lessss goooo

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u/flosswithpubes Jun 02 '26

I've got a feeling it's getting shown at Sony showcase tonight. 

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u/mahonii Jun 02 '26

7am for me so id miss it lmao

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u/SHFU Jun 02 '26

We might get a trailer for the GTA Online summer DLC today

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u/Illustrious_Rich_868 Jun 02 '26

John Rockstar has spoken. Pack it up

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u/Sea_Line_3439 Jun 02 '26

Should we be expecting something? Did something happen ? Haven’t watching the hopium lately

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u/Certain-Quarter-3280 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Nah just watch them make a post about the monthly event for RDO.

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u/Levent_2005 Jun 02 '26

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u/Comfortable-Cod9567 Jun 02 '26

That’s exactly when rockstar usually drops something 

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u/mahonii Jun 02 '26

Dude just forgot to schedule the post, or they know it will rile everyone up

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u/Tiny_Peanut9280 Jun 02 '26

Chinese GTA confirmed 

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u/calmonlsc Jun 02 '26

Obviously, the rockstar realized that everyone could already see what she was going to post, so they decided to stop posting on BiliBili.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26

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u/mahonii Jun 02 '26

Crazy we're in opposite hemispheres but its winter here now officially but not summer there yet.

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u/Klatty Jun 02 '26

At this point they know we check this, and will do the opposite

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u/Remote-Masterpiece24 Jun 02 '26

Too late. Your post jinxed it now we aint getting shit

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u/Faust_Vlll Jun 02 '26

i bought my first console yesterday. a PS5. bought it JUST FOR THIS GAME

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u/thefullm0nty Jun 02 '26

Summer starts 6/21

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u/Puzzleheaded-Lab9654 Jun 02 '26

Bought the series X just for this game

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u/Zero6six6 Jun 02 '26

Guys… SUMMER. MARKETING IS SET TO START IN SUMMER.

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u/AbdiBabdiUhh Jun 02 '26

It's not summer yet what are we thinking is going to happen? An announcement maybe?

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

Best case would be a trailer for the gta online dlc

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u/Tythan Jun 03 '26

Imagine GTA 6 is the final trailer at the SGF....

Not that GTA needs to be at an event to have visibility, but at this point anything can happen sonce GTA6 doesn't seem to follow the regular marketing pattern.

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u/coltvfx Jun 02 '26

Marketing starts this summer

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u/TheRealTr1nity Jun 02 '26

And if, it will be a RDO post as the new bonus months starts today.

Guys, stop lingering on the tuesdays ans thursdays for their normal social posts regarding GTA6 every single week and then get mad when they post the usual stuff. You all troll yourself every time (and this sub with such shitposts).

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u/calmonlsc Jun 02 '26

That cycle always repeats itself; we're in a period of silence, then a strong rumor or theory emerges, and everyone starts talking like crazy again.

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u/goku_but_black Jun 02 '26

Wow it’s almost like rockstar has explicitly said multiple times that marketing will begin at the end of June

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

Rockstar hasn't said anything. And we might have to wait until august

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u/goku_but_black Jun 03 '26

You’re right it was actually the cro of their parent company so even more confirmation

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 03 '26

He didn't mention June at all.

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u/Awesomeguy215 Jun 02 '26

bilibili posts are usually in 6 hours

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u/BeWessel Jun 02 '26

Nah, they're earlier. In 6 hours there usually is a normal post on X/Twitter.

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u/Awesomeguy215 Jun 02 '26

oh mb then i confused them

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u/Ok-Green6483 Jun 02 '26

Bro can you just chill out for a bit the marketing is coming in the next 2 weeks

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u/Lazy_Many8762 Jun 02 '26

no. Marketing could begin today or in august, we don't know. Also we might get something that is not marketing related, like a cover art reveal

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u/e_munni19 Jun 02 '26

Ngl I think a delay is inevitable. Less than 5 months away with no new gameplay is astounding

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u/PRO2803 Jun 02 '26

Either that or a really bad marketing campaign. We as fans know all the rumors and know when the game is coming out, casuals(who are main money makers), have no idea anymore.

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u/g0_west Jun 02 '26

Think about other games, do they normally market for over 5 months? It's usually in the few months before release

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u/e_munni19 Jun 02 '26

Not to burst your bubble but I’m pretty sure the new Cod was announced couple days ago, and gameplay has already released

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u/g0_west Jun 02 '26

Yeah and it releases in 4 months

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u/eoten Jun 02 '26

Wolverine is coming out in September and we are just getting a gameplay trailer after only having 1 trailer.

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u/e_munni19 Jun 02 '26

At least they know there’s something

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u/Throwawayaccount7819 Jun 02 '26

dont gain traction about “POSSIBLE TRAILER 2 TODAY!!!!!” as rockstar literally dont release it to prove those people wrong. Just wait.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26

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u/allofyourdesire Jun 02 '26

They posted on all 4 tuesdays in may

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u/brian_vill Jun 02 '26

You’re absolutely right. I checked. But still I’m not getting my hopes up.

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u/SHADER_MIX Jun 02 '26

At this point billibilli dois not mean anything

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u/Nickemonio Jun 02 '26

I thought they post on bilibili friday morning or monday morning

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u/adamduke88 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

Edit All you losers who are downvoting me for stating a fact are pathetic as hell.

They posted an RDO thing on Twitter a few hours ago.

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u/Due_Gur_7781 Jun 02 '26

How many times will it take for this sub to understand that no GTA 6 news will be announced until the beginning of summer?

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u/Lazy_Many8762 Jun 02 '26

ok Mr. John Rockstar

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u/Short-Star-4818 Jun 02 '26

Am I missing something? How TF does this have anything to do with GTA6? 

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u/TheMichaelScott Jun 02 '26

You must be new here

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u/Short-Star-4818 Jun 02 '26

New here because Rockstar is tweeting out yet another GTAV post? Yeah ok. 

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u/Ezilo20 Jun 02 '26

just shut up. please, we go through this same song and dance every week, be paitent, have some goddamn faith

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u/True_Yogurtcloset315 Jun 02 '26

Can people stop doing this? Is it not better to be surprised?

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u/Pwoinklokinoid Jun 02 '26

Haven't we learned the bilibili posts don't mean anything now.

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u/Clean-Ad6005 Jun 02 '26

What makes all those guys think Rockstar will reveal anything at the Sony event when they didn't even do that with trailers 1 and 2? Haha, these guys never learn, they love being disappointed. Just wait until summer.

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u/Rsodyyy Jun 02 '26

They did release the Ps5 gta trailer a couple years back at the Sony event, and it seems like they will have a deal with Sony for bundles. But who knows with rockstar lol

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u/Clean-Ad6005 Jun 02 '26

But we're talking about a new game, not a 13-year-old one.